K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
And Tom, with that wicked sense of humor he often displayed, bit the hand that fed him by referring to NBC as "the network that brought you My Mother, The Car."
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And Tom, with that wicked sense of humor he often displayed, bit the hand that fed him by referring to NBC as "the network that brought you My Mother, The Car."
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
And, from the doomed to fail KKOG-TV/16 in Ventura CA (December 14, 1968-September 13, 1969), where I technically "began" my career in broadcasting at age 12:
You will note that the gear in the logo has 16 cogs. Or KKOGs.
You will note that the gear in the logo has 16 cogs. Or KKOGs.
Speaking of cogwheels,...
...take a cogwheel, add a closeup of an eye, a sunflower, an oil derrick, and a globe, then mix it with some music that can only be described as shrill, and you've got a Krusty the Clown "What the hell was that?!" Communist-era news open:
...take a cogwheel, add a closeup of an eye, a sunflower, an oil derrick, and a globe, then mix it with some music that can only be described as shrill, and you've got a Krusty the Clown "What the hell was that?!" Communist-era news open:
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
Gee, and all we had was a slide that said "News 16".
...and the next year when KPWR-TV changed ownership, became KGET and then switched to NBC, the station introduced a new logo. Basically, a modified ABC Circle 7...
...and the next year when KPWR-TV changed ownership, became KGET and then switched to NBC, the station introduced a new logo. Basically, a modified ABC Circle 7...View attachment 9453 Yes and it came close to the gold ABC Circle 7 logo KABC-TV used to have until Disney took over ABC and their affiliates.
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
I don't know where you've been, but I watch ABC7 Eyewitness News daily and I still see that gold Circle 7 pin on lapels from time to time.
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
In fact, I am watching them right now and both anchors (David Ono and Jovana Lara) have those on their jacket lapels ...
True too! and I sometimes seen the Gold circle 7 logo on occasions on KGO-TV whenever ABC is airing NBA games with Golden State Warriors. I seen it mainly on promos.
Before there were "Circle 7" lapel pins, there were "Circle 7" patches (at least in Chicago):
Well, they've known the "KDKA" call letters for as long as they've been alive and in town and paying attention to stuff like that.
Someone who's 35 and just starting to care about local TV newscasts doesn't have that connection. Nor does someone who just moved to Pittsburgh.
Yes, via research. And what they found was something that we kinda knew already---they knew what network they wanted and maybe a channel number (though "What channel is (network) on here?" is one of the most common questions known to man).
It's been going on for 30 years. The video quality is atrocious, but it's the only copy online---KNBC Los Angeles in 1995, becoming "NBC4", with weatherman Fritz Coleman (left) and sports anchor Fred Roggin (right):
And now, with a kazillion channels, channel numbers are less important---but "NBC Los Angeles" (which is what KNBC identifies as now, with a "4" on the screen) tells a viewer what he/she/they needs to know and most modern TVs and remotes, with voice function, will get you to the right channel on that voice prompt alone...no channel number needed.
True and yes especially today when NBC and Telemundo affiliates owned by Comcast promote their content being inside the Peacock app within modern TV’s.
That was a big deal back then when marketing TV channels to Cable viewers was important from that clip. Also during the time of the clip the merger between Group W and CBS were big deals and the merger between ABC and Disney were the biggest deals for that time. Plus the rise of UPN and WB affiliates were a factor here.
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
Many years ago, my now-departed friend Doug Drigot (who was news director at KVEN while I was programming KAAP-AM/FM in the same market of Oxnard-Ventura CA) was getting a new hire from another state oriented to the market. When he got around to telling them where to find the then-three major television networks on the dial, he said "channel 4 is KNBC" and the new guy said "and which network are they?"
From that, I have always presumed that people do not automatically understand call letters, even if they are heritage or designed around the station's channel number or imaging.
I imagine there are people in Corpus Christi TX who don't know why channel 12 there is KXII.
From that, I have always presumed that people do not automatically understand call letters, even if they are heritage or designed around the station's channel number or imaging.
I imagine there are people in Corpus Christi TX who don't know why channel 12 there is KXII.
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And people don't interface with TV the same way we used to.
Six years ago, Tina Fey told the story of getting a text from her then-14-year-old daughter at home in New York. Tina was in Napa, filming "Wine Country."
Her daughter wanted to know if it was okay if she watched SNL. Tina thought about it, figured 13 was probably okay and said yes.
Then came the next text:
Go ahead and make a "kid" joke, but Alice will turn 20 in a couple of months and I'll bet you neither she nor any of her classmates at college have turned on the TV and tuned to Channel 4.
Six years ago, Tina Fey told the story of getting a text from her then-14-year-old daughter at home in New York. Tina was in Napa, filming "Wine Country."
Her daughter wanted to know if it was okay if she watched SNL. Tina thought about it, figured 13 was probably okay and said yes.
Then came the next text:
Go ahead and make a "kid" joke, but Alice will turn 20 in a couple of months and I'll bet you neither she nor any of her classmates at college have turned on the TV and tuned to Channel 4.
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K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
Filed under "sad but true".
I mean, is it really sad? Is it any sadder than you and I not having to turn a crank and ask an operator to connect us to the hardware store? It's just time and technology doing what time and technology do.
My kids are 27 and 25, and they grew up changing channels themselves to watch Nickelodeon, Disney, Cartoon Network, etc. They could absolutely find channel 4 if they wanted to. Unless you are saying that 5 years age difference is a cut off to where they stopped watching regular TV?
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
I imagine, Mike, that as crank telephones gave way to direct dialing, there were many who found it sad.
And I still miss the corner hardware store.
Yeah, but that was them. You and I didn't long for it. We were happy dialing or using touchtones.
Same with the younger people who've never tuned Channel 4 manually.
You've just answered your own question. And I'm there with you. My kids are 33 and 31 and they watched the same stuff your kids did. They squeaked in before streaming ate cable:
Kids TV Is Dead, Long Live Kids TV
As Gen A pivots to creator-driven content, studios are struggling to adjust to a complete evolution of how this content is made.
www.thewrap.com
That appears to be paywalled, though the key points about viewing habits appear at the top. Here's an archived copy of the entire piece:
The rapid decline began in 2018---seven years ago.