Anyone know how the stations like 105.9 and 101.9 do in St. Augustine now? I never had a good radio with me when I used to go to school in St. Augustine. I remember 105.9 came in good depending on the weather. I had a Sony Walkman cd player back then. In terms of Palm Bay? You're pretty much screwed. So here is a stupid question but how can you hear stations like 105.1 and 96.5 and a few others in Palm Bay and 105.9 and 101.9 not all that well? I'm guessing the tower location has something to do with it. Being blind kind of limits your understanding of radio and how it works but I’m always very interested to see how certain stations do with coverage. I used to go to the Florida school for the deaf and blind in St. Augustine and I used to live in Palm Bay and make the occasional trip here and there. Can we count am as well? My vote would be 540. I can hear that thing in Brandon no problems on my pl-390
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105.9 and 101.9 have their transmitters located off of I-4 between Daytona Beach and Orlando in a town called Orange City. Which is 30 miles northwest of the 96.5 and 105.1 transmitters. Which are located off of SR 50 between Orlando and Cape Canaveral. 105.9 has an better signal to the North of Orlando in places like St. Augustine, Daytona and Bunnell. However loses that good signal to the south and east. Particularly Southern Brevard County where Palm Bay is. 105.1 and 96.5 have transmitters to the South and East. While you can't hear Mix 105.1 in St. Augustine you can hear it loud in clear in Palm Bay. With radio stations you have a give or take. Some cover the north of town well. Some cover the south of town well.
http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WOMX&service=FM&status=L&hours=U
Radio-Locator map for WOMX 105.1
http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WOCL&service=FM&status=L&hours=U
Radio-locator map for WOCL 105.9
http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WOMX&service=FM&status=L&hours=U
Radio-Locator map for WOMX 105.1
http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WOCL&service=FM&status=L&hours=U
Radio-locator map for WOCL 105.9
I have a question. How do Sunny 105.9 and Star 94.5 do reception wise around Disney World. I could hold it both stations rather well in those areas, Even on a Alarm Clock radio inside a hotel I was staying at. Going down Highway 192 I could also hold both stations in all the way to Melbourne, I still don't think the Orange City or even the Paisley signal locations do bad over much of Orlando.
I don't see why people complain so much about the lousy signal 105.9 and 94.5 provide towards Kissimmee. 105.9 does provide a City-Grade signal over Disney World and Kissimmee and 94.5 is not too much different signal wise. You can't reliably listen to Sunny FM down in Yeehaw Junction However I doubt an Orlando Station is selling ads in Yeehaw Junction. Sure the signal for Mix 105.1 is stronger than 105.9 in Kissimmee but I highly don't most radio geeks will tell the difference. As long as the signal is clear as a bell there is no problems.
Star 94 and Sunny FM provide at least a 60DBu signal over much of Northern Osceola County. The only areas were these signals have issues is a bunch of Swampland out towards Yeehaw Junction. Do advertisers already care about business in Yeehaw Junction.
I don't see why people complain so much about the lousy signal 105.9 and 94.5 provide towards Kissimmee. 105.9 does provide a City-Grade signal over Disney World and Kissimmee and 94.5 is not too much different signal wise. You can't reliably listen to Sunny FM down in Yeehaw Junction However I doubt an Orlando Station is selling ads in Yeehaw Junction. Sure the signal for Mix 105.1 is stronger than 105.9 in Kissimmee but I highly don't most radio geeks will tell the difference. As long as the signal is clear as a bell there is no problems.
Star 94 and Sunny FM provide at least a 60DBu signal over much of Northern Osceola County. The only areas were these signals have issues is a bunch of Swampland out towards Yeehaw Junction. Do advertisers already care about business in Yeehaw Junction.
http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WCFB&service=FM&status=L&hours=U
The only areas advertisers care about are Orange County, Seminole, Lake and Volusia Counties. As well as the developed areas of Osceola County. (Disney World, Kissimmee, St.Cloud, Celebration, Four Corners.) Orlando advertisers don't care about the Space Coast. Or Ocala for that matter. As long as a radio station can cover these areas they are fine. Which means covering these areas with a static free signal in the house and in the car. Most people change stations if they hear just a little bit of fading you know.
The Bithlo stations are really not that much better than Orange City stations. The only difference is the Bithlo stations throw a lot of signal over water and the Space Coast. The Orange City stations throw more signal over Volusia, Seminole and Lake Counties. Which are actually in the Orlando market.
Both signal sites have trade-offs. A Bithlo station only provides a 60Dbu signal to Daytona Beach. A Orange City station only provides a 60DbU signal to St. Cloud and Kissimmee. Bithlo stations cover the Southeast Areas well. Orange City stations cover the Northwest rather well.
Both signal sites provide reasonably uniform signals over the metro. Sunny 105.9 has a better signal in Leesburg while Mix 105.1 has a better signal at Disney World.
The only areas advertisers care about are Orange County, Seminole, Lake and Volusia Counties. As well as the developed areas of Osceola County. (Disney World, Kissimmee, St.Cloud, Celebration, Four Corners.) Orlando advertisers don't care about the Space Coast. Or Ocala for that matter. As long as a radio station can cover these areas they are fine. Which means covering these areas with a static free signal in the house and in the car. Most people change stations if they hear just a little bit of fading you know.
The Bithlo stations are really not that much better than Orange City stations. The only difference is the Bithlo stations throw a lot of signal over water and the Space Coast. The Orange City stations throw more signal over Volusia, Seminole and Lake Counties. Which are actually in the Orlando market.
Both signal sites have trade-offs. A Bithlo station only provides a 60Dbu signal to Daytona Beach. A Orange City station only provides a 60DbU signal to St. Cloud and Kissimmee. Bithlo stations cover the Southeast Areas well. Orange City stations cover the Northwest rather well.
Both signal sites provide reasonably uniform signals over the metro. Sunny 105.9 has a better signal in Leesburg while Mix 105.1 has a better signal at Disney World.
gamefreak said:
Volusia County and Lake County are NOT in the Orlando Metro. Therefore, any listening in those counties are NOT in the Orlando Arbitron and NOT on anyone's radar.
The only PPM metered counties are Orange, Seminole and Osceola. The majority of the PPM meters are in Orange. In order to win, Orange has to be saturated in signal.
Hello gamefreak. What you say makes sence. I was confirming on radio locater and it makes perfect sence to me now. Radio is a very interesting thing. 
I'll be taking my pl-390 with me on sunday when I make a trip to palm bay for the day so I'll get some real experience for my self. 101.9 and 105.9 are the only stations from orlando that have trouble in palm bay. 95.3 is killed by 95.1 out of melbourne and all the others do decent down there. except 98.9 which has a signal disadvantage anyway. they are better in the metro. same with 95.3. 95.3 is not even reliable in deltona if memory servs me correctly. I have not been to deltona in years. Sorry if I'm all over the board so to speak.
I'll be taking my pl-390 with me on sunday when I make a trip to palm bay for the day so I'll get some real experience for my self. 101.9 and 105.9 are the only stations from orlando that have trouble in palm bay. 95.3 is killed by 95.1 out of melbourne and all the others do decent down there. except 98.9 which has a signal disadvantage anyway. they are better in the metro. same with 95.3. 95.3 is not even reliable in deltona if memory servs me correctly. I have not been to deltona in years. Sorry if I'm all over the board so to speak.If Orlando radio advertisers acre about coverage in Volusia county, then Daytona should not be its own market and should be included in Orlando. The bulk of the population is closer to Orlando than Daytona anyway (Deltona,Debary,Orange City,Deland). That would move Orlando up quite a few spaces in the rankings.
Adding Volusia county would move Orlando into a top 25 postion. Also, on big stick subject someone mentioned 540. When they had their towers in the green swamp they had a city grade signal day and night over Tampa and St Pete during the day. You could hear them from Jacksonville to Key West. Now it completely fades in West Palm and their night signal breaks up before US 27 and I-4 and is not listenable in many parts of Clermont at night. Dumb moving to 740 tower array.
I would say if Volusia County was counted in the Orlando Market the Orange City and Paisley Stations do a somewhat better job at covering the entire market.105.9, 107.7 and the 94.5 signals are not quite as powerful over Orlando itself compared to the Bithlo stations like 105.1. However the signals are still very good. Even in Kissimmee I can still pull in even Star 94.5 on a alarm clock radio. If you can pull in a radio station on most household radios your fine. If you can listen to a station in the car static-free your fine.
If Lake County was included than it depends. The Orange City stations do a far better Job covering the Northern side. Including all the Sprawl around the Villages, Leesburg all the way to Eustis. As well as the Highway 50 corridor which includes Clermont. While the Bithlo station does a better Job with the rich, 55+ communities out towards Disney.
If Brevard County was included than the Bithlo stations have the advantage. While the signal for the Orange City/ Paisley stations are adequate from Tutisville northward won't do from Cocoa Beach southwards. While do you think Clear Channel has a 99.3 down in Melbourne which seems to be a mirror of WMGF.
If Lake County was included than it depends. The Orange City stations do a far better Job covering the Northern side. Including all the Sprawl around the Villages, Leesburg all the way to Eustis. As well as the Highway 50 corridor which includes Clermont. While the Bithlo station does a better Job with the rich, 55+ communities out towards Disney.
If Brevard County was included than the Bithlo stations have the advantage. While the signal for the Orange City/ Paisley stations are adequate from Tutisville northward won't do from Cocoa Beach southwards. While do you think Clear Channel has a 99.3 down in Melbourne which seems to be a mirror of WMGF.
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vadar
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Odd that Volusia and Lake counties are not included in the Orlando market. The Central Florida market is quite expansive and diverse. Should easily include all of these counties, with Orlando centrally located and covering all areas well. Counties include: Brevard, Flagler, Lake, Orange, Osceola, Seminole, Volusia. Polk falls into it's own (Lakeland and Tampa).
The Daytona and Brevard stations would be at a severe disadvantage if those counties were added to the Orlando metro. They would never agree to it unless they had a way to upgrade their signals and move-in to Orlando.
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Groove1670
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Does Disney have a travel information station. Seems like a couple of years back I heard one at 107.9. Signal was strong, giving Disney World information.
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cd637299
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musiconradio.com said:
No longer. What you heard was Disney Radio (not Radio Disney), KA2XXE which was also KA2XXZ (which came first I don't know), then got a 4-letter call as WLGD which was at 107.5 out of Columbia City (near Lake City). I even have an aircheck of them, recorded from Belleview (near Ocala) which was in 1990. When they went off, I do not recall.
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Groove1670
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Thanks. So did they turn it back into the FCC?
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cd637299
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musiconradio.com said:
No idea. If w9wi is reading this, he might be able to tell ya.
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cd637299 said:
I found this online, a little more info on Disney Radio including an aircheck from 1997! http://forums.tannerworld.com/showthread.php?t=20469
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musiconradio.com said:
From the FCC CDBS regarding 107.5
WLGD 55074
"PERMIT CANCELLED AND CALLSIGN DELETED PER
APPLICANT'S REQUEST 7/14/00. NO LETTER ISSUED."
We seem to recall a 99.9 which, many years ago, moved from Palatka to a perch from where it covered Orlando and Jax, but neither very well, eventually downgraded and moved into Jax when CO's, C1's, and C2's were intro'ed.
Many stations with huge signals have downgraded thusly in order to get into metro's.
Interestingly, all Fort Lauderdale stations began as full C's, but most Miami stations had to become C1's in order to move to the antennæ farm.
Many stations with huge signals have downgraded thusly in order to get into metro's.
Interestingly, all Fort Lauderdale stations began as full C's, but most Miami stations had to become C1's in order to move to the antennæ farm.
ThatGuyOnTheRadio said:
You may also recall that for many years, 910 AM in Valdosta, GA was a 5 kW fulltime Disney World infomercial. They sported the call WFVR, for Florida Vacation Radio. I'm not sure how long that "format" lasted but the call was issued in 1986 and changed in 2007. It could be since WFVR had a superior signal that WLGD wasn't needed any longer.
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