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desertv
Guest
> Has Salem issued a statement? Will they fire him?
>
Has ErrAmerica fired the beeeotch that suggested killing the President?
>
Has ErrAmerica fired the beeeotch that suggested killing the President?
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Les
Guest
Quotus Interruptus
> I think PT Barnum had a better quote for those who flock to
> this guy after listening to this disgusting
> statement...."There's a sucker born every minute"
Finish the thought:
"and one to take him."
This proves that Barnum was SEXIST, not having said "...and one
to take her or him."
> and to go a step further, I like Scott Adams (Dilbert)'s
> variation of the Barnum quote....
>
> "There's an idiot born every minute".
Completion: "how else could we get enough politicians and
managers?"
Context correction...my failure to spew forth enough words:
>> I had never thought of Bennet in a talk-radio context
>> before this erupted. Now I find myself seeking out his show.
>> Not because I necessarily agree with any of his points but
>> because you've all made me curious.
So far I haven't found his show but I'll continue the quest at
a low level just so I can hear for myself. I won't necessarily
listen more than once, but: "Once is philosophy. Twice, now
that might be perversion....." Pity I can't remember which
congressperson or former president to thank for that.
<P ID="signature">______________
"If you wish to avoid seeing a fool you must first break your looking glass"
--Francois Rabelais</P>
> I think PT Barnum had a better quote for those who flock to
> this guy after listening to this disgusting
> statement...."There's a sucker born every minute"
Finish the thought:
"and one to take him."
This proves that Barnum was SEXIST, not having said "...and one
to take her or him."
> and to go a step further, I like Scott Adams (Dilbert)'s
> variation of the Barnum quote....
>
> "There's an idiot born every minute".
Completion: "how else could we get enough politicians and
managers?"
Context correction...my failure to spew forth enough words:
>> I had never thought of Bennet in a talk-radio context
>> before this erupted. Now I find myself seeking out his show.
>> Not because I necessarily agree with any of his points but
>> because you've all made me curious.
So far I haven't found his show but I'll continue the quest at
a low level just so I can hear for myself. I won't necessarily
listen more than once, but: "Once is philosophy. Twice, now
that might be perversion....." Pity I can't remember which
congressperson or former president to thank for that.
<P ID="signature">______________
"If you wish to avoid seeing a fool you must first break your looking glass"
--Francois Rabelais</P>
L
Les
Guest
I can't pass up a cheap shot!
> Lets talk about flowers and sunshine now......i like
> tulips...
You're not alone...there once was this President....
Thanks for the opening...I don't get many these days!
<P ID="signature">______________
"If you wish to avoid seeing a fool you must first break your looking glass"
--Francois Rabelais</P>
> Lets talk about flowers and sunshine now......i like
> tulips...
You're not alone...there once was this President....
Thanks for the opening...I don't get many these days!
<P ID="signature">______________
"If you wish to avoid seeing a fool you must first break your looking glass"
--Francois Rabelais</P>
D
doc9464
Guest
Re: Bill Bennett - Here We Go Again
> > >Too bad Bill Bennet can't be aborted.
> >
> > Nice "progressive" way of looking at it.
> >
>
> What else would you expect from those that always bleat
> "tolerance" and "understanding?"
>
> Just disgusting.
>
> - nate81
>
/sarcasm mode off
Gee, if people really did practice tolerance and understanding, maybe it would lead to more "tolerance" and "understanding"...nothing the right has ever been interested in...division is their flavor of the month.
must be too hard for a community college student to comprehend such "high minded" principles.
/sarcasm mode still off
> > >Too bad Bill Bennet can't be aborted.
> >
> > Nice "progressive" way of looking at it.
> >
>
> What else would you expect from those that always bleat
> "tolerance" and "understanding?"
>
> Just disgusting.
>
> - nate81
>
/sarcasm mode off
Gee, if people really did practice tolerance and understanding, maybe it would lead to more "tolerance" and "understanding"...nothing the right has ever been interested in...division is their flavor of the month.
must be too hard for a community college student to comprehend such "high minded" principles.
/sarcasm mode still off
D
doc9464
Guest
Re: I can't pass up a cheap shot!
> > Lets talk about flowers and sunshine now......i like
> > tulips...
>
> You're not alone...there once was this President....
>
> Thanks for the opening...I don't get many these days!
>
So original, when you have nothing, go to the clinton references...like Jay Leno, you forget to check the expiration date on those jokes ....
Now back to reality...
I said earlier that Howard Stern and Opie and Anthony would call this major blunder a joke.....but Mr Bennett has trotted out satire as his reason for his "misspeaking"
http://mediamatters.org/items/200509300004 - a small bit of the article follows:
ABC News correspondent Jake Tapper reported that while Bennett said that "he was sorry if anybody was hurt" by his remarks, he "did not seem particularly apologetic." Tapper also noted Bennett's comments on the September 29 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, in which he said that his remarks were "like Swift's 'Modest Proposal' " -- a reference to Jonathan Swift's 1729 satiric essay arguing that the solution to hunger and overpopulation problems in Ireland was for the poor to sell their ch"ildren as food.
yep, when I think satire, no vague reference comes to mind as quickly as Jonathan Swift...introducing talk radio's new Dennis Miller...and may his career follow Miller's
> > Lets talk about flowers and sunshine now......i like
> > tulips...
>
> You're not alone...there once was this President....
>
> Thanks for the opening...I don't get many these days!
>
So original, when you have nothing, go to the clinton references...like Jay Leno, you forget to check the expiration date on those jokes ....
Now back to reality...
I said earlier that Howard Stern and Opie and Anthony would call this major blunder a joke.....but Mr Bennett has trotted out satire as his reason for his "misspeaking"
http://mediamatters.org/items/200509300004 - a small bit of the article follows:
ABC News correspondent Jake Tapper reported that while Bennett said that "he was sorry if anybody was hurt" by his remarks, he "did not seem particularly apologetic." Tapper also noted Bennett's comments on the September 29 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, in which he said that his remarks were "like Swift's 'Modest Proposal' " -- a reference to Jonathan Swift's 1729 satiric essay arguing that the solution to hunger and overpopulation problems in Ireland was for the poor to sell their ch"ildren as food.
yep, when I think satire, no vague reference comes to mind as quickly as Jonathan Swift...introducing talk radio's new Dennis Miller...and may his career follow Miller's
Re: Bill Bennett - Here We Go Again
> > >Too bad Bill Bennet can't be aborted.
> >
> > Nice "progressive" way of looking at it.
> >
>
> What else would you expect from those that always bleat
> "tolerance" and "understanding?"
>
> Just disgusting.
>
> - nate81
>
Funny how right wingers don't call for tolerance and understanding of anyone other then themselves. Total hypocrite.
> > >Too bad Bill Bennet can't be aborted.
> >
> > Nice "progressive" way of looking at it.
> >
>
> What else would you expect from those that always bleat
> "tolerance" and "understanding?"
>
> Just disgusting.
>
> - nate81
>
Funny how right wingers don't call for tolerance and understanding of anyone other then themselves. Total hypocrite.
Re: Bill Bennett's dumb remarks
>
> Bennett was not the first to say something like this. I
> don't much like the arguement but I believe hypotheses
> should be scientifically proven or disproven, not accepted
> or rejected because they do or do not fit how we would like
> the world to be. I specifically don't think a field of
> inquiry should be prohibited just because we don't like some
> possible implications.
>
Bennett can make all the racist remarks he wants. He just has to be prepared to pay the consequences for them. Some people like Les think there to be no consequences for racist remarks. I guess to him, anything is acceptable and if you're offended by something, TOO BAD. His remarks below remind me of people who think it's ok to be an antisemite but it's wrong to call the antisemite an antisemite.
As far as the notion of black crime being higher, here is what Stephen D. Levitt, on of the authors of Freakonomics (a book often quoted by Bennett) had to say about Bennett's remarks:
"Race is not an important part of the abortion-crime argument that John Donohue and I have made in academic papers and that Dubner and I discuss in Freakonomics. It is true that, on average, crime involvement in the U.S. is higher among blacks than whites. Importantly, however, once you control for income, the likelihood of growing up in a female-headed household, having a teenage mother, and how urban the environment is, the importance of race disappears for all crimes except homicide. (The homicide gap is partly explained by crack markets). In other words, for most crimes a white person and a black person who grow up next door to each other with similar incomes and the same family structure would be predicted to have the same crime involvement. Empirically, what matters is the fact that abortions are disproportionately used on unwanted pregnancies, and disproportionately by teenage women and single women." http://www.freakonomics.com/2005/09/bill-bennett-and-freakonomics.html
>
> Bennett was not the first to say something like this. I
> don't much like the arguement but I believe hypotheses
> should be scientifically proven or disproven, not accepted
> or rejected because they do or do not fit how we would like
> the world to be. I specifically don't think a field of
> inquiry should be prohibited just because we don't like some
> possible implications.
>
Bennett can make all the racist remarks he wants. He just has to be prepared to pay the consequences for them. Some people like Les think there to be no consequences for racist remarks. I guess to him, anything is acceptable and if you're offended by something, TOO BAD. His remarks below remind me of people who think it's ok to be an antisemite but it's wrong to call the antisemite an antisemite.
As far as the notion of black crime being higher, here is what Stephen D. Levitt, on of the authors of Freakonomics (a book often quoted by Bennett) had to say about Bennett's remarks:
"Race is not an important part of the abortion-crime argument that John Donohue and I have made in academic papers and that Dubner and I discuss in Freakonomics. It is true that, on average, crime involvement in the U.S. is higher among blacks than whites. Importantly, however, once you control for income, the likelihood of growing up in a female-headed household, having a teenage mother, and how urban the environment is, the importance of race disappears for all crimes except homicide. (The homicide gap is partly explained by crack markets). In other words, for most crimes a white person and a black person who grow up next door to each other with similar incomes and the same family structure would be predicted to have the same crime involvement. Empirically, what matters is the fact that abortions are disproportionately used on unwanted pregnancies, and disproportionately by teenage women and single women." http://www.freakonomics.com/2005/09/bill-bennett-and-freakonomics.html
Re: Bill Bennett's dumb remarks
> That sound you hear is the PC PD pounding on your door.
>
> Those flashes of light outside your windows are sunlight
> glinting
> off the pitchforks brandished by Forces For Good In The
> Community.
>
> Oh...and that smoke you smell?
>
> How DARE you use logic to try to ridicule their entire
> belief
> system?????
>
> /scarcasm mode off
>
> But only for now....
>
Do you really believe that? You think this is just the PC police? Is there anything that would ever rise to the level of offensiveness in your mind? Is saying someones remarks are racist worse than saying something racist?
> That sound you hear is the PC PD pounding on your door.
>
> Those flashes of light outside your windows are sunlight
> glinting
> off the pitchforks brandished by Forces For Good In The
> Community.
>
> Oh...and that smoke you smell?
>
> How DARE you use logic to try to ridicule their entire
> belief
> system?????
>
> /scarcasm mode off
>
> But only for now....
>
Do you really believe that? You think this is just the PC police? Is there anything that would ever rise to the level of offensiveness in your mind? Is saying someones remarks are racist worse than saying something racist?
Re: I can't pass up a cheap shot!
> > > Lets talk about flowers and sunshine now......i like
> > > tulips...
> >
> > You're not alone...there once was this President....
> >
> > Thanks for the opening...I don't get many these days!
> >
>
>
> So original, when you have nothing, go to the clinton
> references...like Jay Leno, you forget to check the
> expiration date on those jokes ....
>
> Now back to reality...
>
> I said earlier that Howard Stern and Opie and Anthony would
> call this major blunder a joke.....but Mr Bennett has
> trotted out satire as his reason for his "misspeaking"
>
> http://mediamatters.org/items/200509300004 - a small bit of
> the article follows:
>
> ABC News correspondent Jake Tapper reported that while
> Bennett said that "he was sorry if anybody was hurt" by his
> remarks, he "did not seem particularly apologetic." Tapper
> also noted Bennett's comments on the September 29 edition of
> Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, in which he said that his
> remarks were "like Swift's 'Modest Proposal' " -- a
> reference to Jonathan Swift's 1729 satiric essay arguing
> that the solution to hunger and overpopulation problems in
> Ireland was for the poor to sell their ch"ildren as food.
>
> yep, when I think satire, no vague reference comes to mind
> as quickly as Jonathan Swift...introducing talk radio's new
> Dennis Miller...and may his career follow Miller's
>
I like what Bennett had to say on HANNITY & colmes. Talk about a man who's out of touch with reality.
"Let me just tell you, when it comes to abortion, my wife's program, best friends, has kept more young women from having abortions because they don't get pregnant because they take her good counsel...
HANNITY: Let me...
BENNETT: Than the entire black caucus. She has done more for inner city black girls than the entire black caucus."
Sure she has
> > > Lets talk about flowers and sunshine now......i like
> > > tulips...
> >
> > You're not alone...there once was this President....
> >
> > Thanks for the opening...I don't get many these days!
> >
>
>
> So original, when you have nothing, go to the clinton
> references...like Jay Leno, you forget to check the
> expiration date on those jokes ....
>
> Now back to reality...
>
> I said earlier that Howard Stern and Opie and Anthony would
> call this major blunder a joke.....but Mr Bennett has
> trotted out satire as his reason for his "misspeaking"
>
> http://mediamatters.org/items/200509300004 - a small bit of
> the article follows:
>
> ABC News correspondent Jake Tapper reported that while
> Bennett said that "he was sorry if anybody was hurt" by his
> remarks, he "did not seem particularly apologetic." Tapper
> also noted Bennett's comments on the September 29 edition of
> Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, in which he said that his
> remarks were "like Swift's 'Modest Proposal' " -- a
> reference to Jonathan Swift's 1729 satiric essay arguing
> that the solution to hunger and overpopulation problems in
> Ireland was for the poor to sell their ch"ildren as food.
>
> yep, when I think satire, no vague reference comes to mind
> as quickly as Jonathan Swift...introducing talk radio's new
> Dennis Miller...and may his career follow Miller's
>
I like what Bennett had to say on HANNITY & colmes. Talk about a man who's out of touch with reality.
"Let me just tell you, when it comes to abortion, my wife's program, best friends, has kept more young women from having abortions because they don't get pregnant because they take her good counsel...
HANNITY: Let me...
BENNETT: Than the entire black caucus. She has done more for inner city black girls than the entire black caucus."
Sure she has
L
Les
Guest
Re: Bill Bennett's dumb remarks
> Do you really believe that? You think this is just the PC
> police? Is there anything that would ever rise to the level
> of offensiveness in your mind? Is saying what someone said
> "is racist" worse than saying something racist?
I no longer believe that there is any reason for anybody to say
anything except to gain perceived political advantage. That goes
for left, right, center, Fundamentalist Christian, Catholic,
Jew, Muslim, Buddist, Taoist and Maoist and any others I may have
overlooked (OK, so rail that I'm prejudiced against your favorite
religion because I left it out).
There is no longer ANY substance. All sides have become disgusting.
The only hope for this planet is that one big meteor.
Would anything rise to offensiveness in my mind? Hell yes, I find
every political utterance offensive but whaddya want me to to? Take
up arms and kill everybody that offends anyone in any way. Attractive
though the thought may be.....
(white space intentional to allow the all-knowing to fulminate a bit
before raising keyboards to their almighty thrones)
Now watch. The phrasing "attractive though the thought MAY be" will
lead some clown to climb to a rooftop with a bullhorn and shout
that I'm advocating death for everyone who offends me. Conveniently
overlooking the words "that offends "ANYONE", failing to contemplate
that "MAY" does not mean it IS so...just that it MIGHT be so. Just
as equally it might NOT be so.
Thank you, Mr. (former) President for having taught me to parse words!
Of course another solution would be for some "intelligent creator"
to take away the gift of language and leave us all babbling
inchoerently.
Oh, wait, that happened in Novbember of WHAT year?
Imagine the challenge THAT would pose for broadcasting! Instrumental music? Yeah, an improvement, but no advertising revenue to support it.
As a character on an old TV series (cannot even say the name of the
series without being branded "racist") used to say....
"I'ze regusted!"
<P ID="signature">______________
"If you wish to avoid seeing a fool you must first break your looking glass"
--Francois Rabelais</P>
> Do you really believe that? You think this is just the PC
> police? Is there anything that would ever rise to the level
> of offensiveness in your mind? Is saying what someone said
> "is racist" worse than saying something racist?
I no longer believe that there is any reason for anybody to say
anything except to gain perceived political advantage. That goes
for left, right, center, Fundamentalist Christian, Catholic,
Jew, Muslim, Buddist, Taoist and Maoist and any others I may have
overlooked (OK, so rail that I'm prejudiced against your favorite
religion because I left it out).
There is no longer ANY substance. All sides have become disgusting.
The only hope for this planet is that one big meteor.
Would anything rise to offensiveness in my mind? Hell yes, I find
every political utterance offensive but whaddya want me to to? Take
up arms and kill everybody that offends anyone in any way. Attractive
though the thought may be.....
(white space intentional to allow the all-knowing to fulminate a bit
before raising keyboards to their almighty thrones)
Now watch. The phrasing "attractive though the thought MAY be" will
lead some clown to climb to a rooftop with a bullhorn and shout
that I'm advocating death for everyone who offends me. Conveniently
overlooking the words "that offends "ANYONE", failing to contemplate
that "MAY" does not mean it IS so...just that it MIGHT be so. Just
as equally it might NOT be so.
Thank you, Mr. (former) President for having taught me to parse words!
Of course another solution would be for some "intelligent creator"
to take away the gift of language and leave us all babbling
inchoerently.
Oh, wait, that happened in Novbember of WHAT year?
Imagine the challenge THAT would pose for broadcasting! Instrumental music? Yeah, an improvement, but no advertising revenue to support it.
As a character on an old TV series (cannot even say the name of the
series without being branded "racist") used to say....
"I'ze regusted!"
<P ID="signature">______________
"If you wish to avoid seeing a fool you must first break your looking glass"
--Francois Rabelais</P>
L
Les
Guest
Re: I can't pass up a cheap shot!
> So original, when you have nothing, go to the clinton
> references...like Jay Leno, you forget to check the
> expiration date on those jokes ....
I said, up front, it was a cheap shot.
Just a weakness of character that, when handed the opening,
I couldn't do something noble. While I don't particularly
enjoy Leno's show...I do enjoy the practical jokes
practiced by another Leno...a west-coast pol in search of
national attention.
See...ANOTHER cheap shot. And today I listened to neither
Franken nor Limbaugh. Distressing as some my find it, it
all comes from within. Yup, I'm despicable and proud of it.
> ABC News correspondent Jake Tapper reported that while
> Bennett said that "he was sorry if anybody was hurt" by his
> remarks, he "did not seem particularly apologetic." Tapper
> also noted Bennett's comments on the September 29 edition of
> Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, in which he said that his
> remarks were "like Swift's 'Modest Proposal' " -- a
> reference to Jonathan Swift's 1729 satiric essay arguing
> that the solution to hunger and overpopulation problems in
> Ireland was for the poor to sell their ch"ildren as food.
Disgusting, that Tapper, flaunting his having read something
other than Marvel Comics! Showoff! Belittling the under-
educated in that way. Now THERE's class insensitivity. Too
bad there was no talk radio in Swift's day. Can you imagine
the sport the PCPD would have had with THAT?
> yep, when I think satire, no vague reference comes to mind
> as quickly as Jonathan Swift...introducing talk radio's new
> Dennis Miller...and may his career follow Miller's
Myself, I'd find a PBS series on the works of Hogarth or Bosch
more enlightening or one of Escher more entertaining. But,
whoops, I've fallen into the Tapper trap!<P ID="signature">______________
"If you wish to avoid seeing a fool you must first break your looking glass"
--Francois Rabelais</P>
> So original, when you have nothing, go to the clinton
> references...like Jay Leno, you forget to check the
> expiration date on those jokes ....
I said, up front, it was a cheap shot.
Just a weakness of character that, when handed the opening,
I couldn't do something noble. While I don't particularly
enjoy Leno's show...I do enjoy the practical jokes
practiced by another Leno...a west-coast pol in search of
national attention.
See...ANOTHER cheap shot. And today I listened to neither
Franken nor Limbaugh. Distressing as some my find it, it
all comes from within. Yup, I'm despicable and proud of it.
> ABC News correspondent Jake Tapper reported that while
> Bennett said that "he was sorry if anybody was hurt" by his
> remarks, he "did not seem particularly apologetic." Tapper
> also noted Bennett's comments on the September 29 edition of
> Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, in which he said that his
> remarks were "like Swift's 'Modest Proposal' " -- a
> reference to Jonathan Swift's 1729 satiric essay arguing
> that the solution to hunger and overpopulation problems in
> Ireland was for the poor to sell their ch"ildren as food.
Disgusting, that Tapper, flaunting his having read something
other than Marvel Comics! Showoff! Belittling the under-
educated in that way. Now THERE's class insensitivity. Too
bad there was no talk radio in Swift's day. Can you imagine
the sport the PCPD would have had with THAT?
> yep, when I think satire, no vague reference comes to mind
> as quickly as Jonathan Swift...introducing talk radio's new
> Dennis Miller...and may his career follow Miller's
Myself, I'd find a PBS series on the works of Hogarth or Bosch
more enlightening or one of Escher more entertaining. But,
whoops, I've fallen into the Tapper trap!<P ID="signature">______________
"If you wish to avoid seeing a fool you must first break your looking glass"
--Francois Rabelais</P>
Re: Bill Bennett's dumb remarks
hmmmmmmmmm
hmmmmmmmmm
Re: P.T.B. proven correct once again!
> So, I guess he should be thankful for all his detractors
> 'cause they're going to bring him hordes of new listeners
> some of whom might stick around.
I take it you've never heard Bennett's show.
Because it's so mind-numbingly boring that NO ONE will stick around.
(And this comes from someone who listens to any number of shows from all viewpoints.)
-OA<P ID="signature">______________
Ohio Media Watch - <a target="_blank" href=http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com>http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com</a></P>
> So, I guess he should be thankful for all his detractors
> 'cause they're going to bring him hordes of new listeners
> some of whom might stick around.
I take it you've never heard Bennett's show.
Because it's so mind-numbingly boring that NO ONE will stick around.
(And this comes from someone who listens to any number of shows from all viewpoints.)
-OA<P ID="signature">______________
Ohio Media Watch - <a target="_blank" href=http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com>http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com</a></P>
Re: Bill Bennett - Here We Go Again
> > Lets see - no, media matters wasn't taking him out of
> context and even the daily show picked up this guys
> words.....
>
> Wow "even The Daily Show"!
>
> Of course they left out the context.
There's nothing out of context. The mere comment is what's reprehensible. Every right-wing station I've listened to today has played the WHOLE CLIP; even Bush said it's reprehensible. Of course, comments from local AAR affil KXXT/Phoenix, which is running a promo saying "Maybe if we had aborted every Republican baby, Casey Sheehan would still be alive", is ridiculous, too.
> > Lets see - no, media matters wasn't taking him out of
> context and even the daily show picked up this guys
> words.....
>
> Wow "even The Daily Show"!
>
> Of course they left out the context.
There's nothing out of context. The mere comment is what's reprehensible. Every right-wing station I've listened to today has played the WHOLE CLIP; even Bush said it's reprehensible. Of course, comments from local AAR affil KXXT/Phoenix, which is running a promo saying "Maybe if we had aborted every Republican baby, Casey Sheehan would still be alive", is ridiculous, too.
9
954
Guest
Swift ones
> ABC News correspondent Jake Tapper reported that while
> Bennett said that "he was sorry if anybody was hurt" by his
> remarks, he "did not seem particularly apologetic." Tapper
> also noted Bennett's comments on the September 29 edition of
> Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, in which he said that his
> remarks were "like Swift's 'Modest Proposal' " -- a
> reference to Jonathan Swift's 1729 satiric essay arguing
> that the solution to hunger and overpopulation problems in
> Ireland was for the poor to sell their ch"ildren as food.
>
You're shouting down a hole, doc.
I don't think anyone caught the Swift reference (big endians)
in the TP thread.
But here's the proposal:
"A Modest Proposal For
Preventing The Children of Poor People in Ireland
From Being Aburden to Their Parents or Country, and
For Making Them Beneficial to The Public"
73s from 954<P ID='signature'>______________
<center>The Classic Jazz Quartet</center></P>
> ABC News correspondent Jake Tapper reported that while
> Bennett said that "he was sorry if anybody was hurt" by his
> remarks, he "did not seem particularly apologetic." Tapper
> also noted Bennett's comments on the September 29 edition of
> Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, in which he said that his
> remarks were "like Swift's 'Modest Proposal' " -- a
> reference to Jonathan Swift's 1729 satiric essay arguing
> that the solution to hunger and overpopulation problems in
> Ireland was for the poor to sell their ch"ildren as food.
>
You're shouting down a hole, doc.
I don't think anyone caught the Swift reference (big endians)
in the TP thread.
But here's the proposal:
"A Modest Proposal For
Preventing The Children of Poor People in Ireland
From Being Aburden to Their Parents or Country, and
For Making Them Beneficial to The Public"
73s from 954<P ID='signature'>______________
<center>The Classic Jazz Quartet</center></P>
> > Has Salem issued a statement? Will they fire him?
> >
> Has ErrAmerica fired the beeeotch that suggested killing the
> President?
>
Like I said earlier, it wont happen.. In fact, i suspect that Err Amerika
secretly encourages this at least every 6 months to get some audience..
The "Feed Err Amerika" solicitation:
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> >
> Has ErrAmerica fired the beeeotch that suggested killing the
> President?
>
Like I said earlier, it wont happen.. In fact, i suspect that Err Amerika
secretly encourages this at least every 6 months to get some audience..
The "Feed Err Amerika" solicitation:
http://larslarson.com/LinksNStuff/LarsSpoofs/Attachment_GetAttachment.aspx?id=1466&fd=0
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Re: Bill Bennett - Here We Go Again
> Everytime and I do mean everytime one of these hacks says
> something out of
> line, its always context (unless you are Howard Stern or
> Opie and Anthony...its a joke then)...they misspoke....their
> tongue slipped....never take responsibility but let a
> liberal say something you don't like..
Of course they will defend him. He turned up on Hannity & Colmes to try and pull a Tom DeLay "I'm oppressed" routine. I didn't realize Hannity now runs the show as sort of a "Second Chance Saloon" for troubled right wingers who need a second chance to try out some new talking points, especially coming a day after watching DeLay pull out his shiny keys and try and make his money laundering scheme into some Democratic witch hunt.
The Gambler's comments on his show amounted to pulling a Pat Robertson. It was a moronic thing to say and he was very surprised when someone actually heard it and told the outside circle of general media about it, creating a sensation. These guys get away with a lot of outrageous remarks until it hits a media sensation perfect storm, then they are all surprised by the attention it got.
For Bill Bennett to continue to represent himself as some moral gold standard is laughable anyway.
The same crowd who will appease these kinds of comments from Bill will be the same people who are not so forgiving towards the likes of Dick Durbin.
> Everytime and I do mean everytime one of these hacks says
> something out of
> line, its always context (unless you are Howard Stern or
> Opie and Anthony...its a joke then)...they misspoke....their
> tongue slipped....never take responsibility but let a
> liberal say something you don't like..
Of course they will defend him. He turned up on Hannity & Colmes to try and pull a Tom DeLay "I'm oppressed" routine. I didn't realize Hannity now runs the show as sort of a "Second Chance Saloon" for troubled right wingers who need a second chance to try out some new talking points, especially coming a day after watching DeLay pull out his shiny keys and try and make his money laundering scheme into some Democratic witch hunt.
The Gambler's comments on his show amounted to pulling a Pat Robertson. It was a moronic thing to say and he was very surprised when someone actually heard it and told the outside circle of general media about it, creating a sensation. These guys get away with a lot of outrageous remarks until it hits a media sensation perfect storm, then they are all surprised by the attention it got.
For Bill Bennett to continue to represent himself as some moral gold standard is laughable anyway.
The same crowd who will appease these kinds of comments from Bill will be the same people who are not so forgiving towards the likes of Dick Durbin.
Re: P.T.B. proven correct once again!
> I had never thought of Bennet in a talk-radio context before
> this erupted. Now I find myself seeking out his show. Not
> because I necessarily agree with any of his points but
> because you've all made me curious.
I don't think you will find yourself in the majority. Most people could care less about the whole story which will be fishwrappers tomorrow. Further, how many radio listeners spend time trying to hunt out a Salem affiliate (or some second tier conservative talk AM outlet) to find Bill Bennett?
> So, I guess he should be thankful for all his detractors
> 'cause they're going to bring him hordes of new listeners, some of
> whom might stick around.
I seriously doubt it.
Nobody will remember this next week.
> I had never thought of Bennet in a talk-radio context before
> this erupted. Now I find myself seeking out his show. Not
> because I necessarily agree with any of his points but
> because you've all made me curious.
I don't think you will find yourself in the majority. Most people could care less about the whole story which will be fishwrappers tomorrow. Further, how many radio listeners spend time trying to hunt out a Salem affiliate (or some second tier conservative talk AM outlet) to find Bill Bennett?
> So, I guess he should be thankful for all his detractors
> 'cause they're going to bring him hordes of new listeners, some of
> whom might stick around.
I seriously doubt it.
Nobody will remember this next week.
> > Has Salem issued a statement? Will they fire him?
> >
> Has ErrAmerica fired the beeeotch that suggested killing the
> President?
This is as incoherent as those that actually thought Randi Rhodes said we should kill the president.
Bennett is not going to be fired by Salem. There are probably three black people in the whole country that listen to his show. His audience, the stations, and the network are in sufficient lockstep not to worry about outside complaints.
> >
> Has ErrAmerica fired the beeeotch that suggested killing the
> President?
This is as incoherent as those that actually thought Randi Rhodes said we should kill the president.
Bennett is not going to be fired by Salem. There are probably three black people in the whole country that listen to his show. His audience, the stations, and the network are in sufficient lockstep not to worry about outside complaints.
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