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Biloxi gains a CBS affiliate

J

jerseyfla

Sometime this Spring (they are staying tight lipped about it), WLOX will launch CBS via digital subchannel. I haven't gotten word on what subchannel yet, hopefully it's 13-3. They are trying work out details with the cable and satellite providers for carriage. Right now WKRG is the preferred CBS station on Cableone HD-wise with WWL in SD, while the satellite providers both have WWL for CBS in HD. I think the reasoning behind it is northern market neighbor Hattiesburg gaining a third network affiliate (WHPM-Fox 23) and it's the easiest network to schedule syndicated programming since CBS schedules most of the daytime schedule.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_uJV...f8FUAAAAAAAKAA
 
Don't go by Wikipedia unless there's a source, and especially don't go by very poor writing sourced to an IP. Raycom doesn't do these arrangements unless they have to at all, and they have good deals with This and Bounce that prevent this.

Mods, please close this thread, this is a complete hoax. I can find nothing about it all to speak of.
 
OK, I found it linked on WLOX.com on the top. There apparently is an ABC subchannel coming, but there's not much more than a YouTube video on WLOX.com that can't be linked here. Still, all that spec above is ridiculous; WLOX doesn't give two licks about syndicated programming in Hattiesburg and customers will fight to keep the Mobile and NOL stations on their systems.

It's beginning to get really tiresome for these edge stations to create mini-duoplies which replace better big city stations on cable and only exist to gobble up ad revenue rather than actually provide even a second-class network affiliate which messes up branding established for years.
 
mrschimpf said:
OK, I found it linked on WLOX.com on the top. There apparently is an ABC subchannel coming, but there's not much more than a YouTube video on WLOX.com that can't be linked here. Still, all that spec above is ridiculous; WLOX doesn't give two licks about syndicated programming in Hattiesburg and customers will fight to keep the Mobile and NOL stations on their systems.

It's beginning to get really tiresome for these edge stations to create mini-duoplies which replace better big city stations on cable and only exist to gobble up ad revenue rather than actually provide even a second-class network affiliate which messes up branding established for years.
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OTOH, they're providing the 10% & growing OTA audience with popular programming they're currently missing...
 
mrschimpf said:
Don't go by Wikipedia unless there's a source, and especially don't go by very poor writing sourced to an IP. Raycom doesn't do these arrangements unless they have to at all, and they have good deals with This and Bounce that prevent this.

Mods, please close this thread, this is a complete hoax. I can find nothing about it all to speak of.
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Why would I post a hoax?!!! In fact, I was the one who updated the wikipedia page.

Here is the correct link to the youtube video of the promo ad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_uJVSgkaUk
 
Would this be WLOX-TV 13-2 or 13-3? The only other commercial station I'm aware of in that market is FOX. I want to say they're on channel 25?
 
KML-224 said:
Would this be WLOX-TV 13-2 or 13-3? The only other commercial station I'm aware of in that market is FOX. I want to say they're on channel 25?
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I'm hoping they put CBS on 13-2, swap 24/7 Weather to 13-3, and nix Bounce. I'm sure they won't nix the weather because there would be a huge local uproar about it, plus not too many viewers were fond of Raycom mandating This being replaced with Bounce back in January. Many of those disgruntled viewers kept bringing up the view of "Why do blacks have their own network" and "If white's had their own network, it would be labeled racist".
 
What's the deal with that market anyway? I guess they had an ABC affiliate there because the ABC for Mobile was in Pensacola and the Mobile stations could reach into it, but the ones in Pensacola could not?

What can you normally get OTA in Biloxi? Can you reliably get, Mobile/Pensacola, Hattiesburg and New Orleans?
 
Mark said:
What's the deal with that market anyway? I guess they had an ABC affiliate there because the ABC for Mobile was in Pensacola and the Mobile stations could reach into it, but the ones in Pensacola could not?

What can you normally get OTA in Biloxi? Can you reliably get, Mobile/Pensacola, Hattiesburg and New Orleans?
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It depends on where in the area you live and what kind antenna you have.

I used to live east of Biloxi in Vancleave (Jackson County). Besides the only three stations Biloxi has WLOX (ABC), WXXV (Fox), and WMAH (PBS) I could pick up WKRG (CBS), WEAR (ABC), WFGX (MY), WJTC (Indy), and WFNA (CW) easily and WPMI (NBC) on clear nights. WALA (Fox) I could never get because of them being on Hi-VHF.

Now I live in Biloxi near Keesler AFB and can only get the Biloxi 3 OTA, I get Mobile/Pensacola stations via Directv (I use a Alabama address for my install address so I can get Rays and Marlins baseball games on FSN, plus AL doesn't have a satellite tax like MS does) and WDSU (NBC-New Orleans) via ClearQAM from my cable internet.

The satellite companies give us the Biloxi 3 and WDSU, WWL, and WNOL from NOLA.

The cable companies give us the Biloxi 3 plus WWL (CBS), WDSU, WGNO (ABC), and WYES (PBS) from NOLA and WKRG and WALA from Mobile, all are SD except WDSU and WKRG which are given HD signals.

To the north, Stone County can pick up WDAM (NBC) and WHLT (CBS) from Hattiesburg.

To the west, Hancock County can get all of the New Orleans stations, but drops out in extreme eastern parts like Diamondhead.
 
jerseyfla said:
Mark said:
What's the deal with that market anyway? I guess they had an ABC affiliate there because the ABC for Mobile was in Pensacola and the Mobile stations could reach into it, but the ones in Pensacola could not?

What can you normally get OTA in Biloxi? Can you reliably get, Mobile/Pensacola, Hattiesburg and New Orleans?
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It depends on where in the area you live and what kind antenna you have.
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I guess that's what they call the Biloxi Blues! :p
 
Mark said:
What's the deal with that market anyway? I guess they had an ABC affiliate there because the ABC for Mobile was in Pensacola and the Mobile stations could reach into it, but the ones in Pensacola could not?

What can you normally get OTA in Biloxi? Can you reliably get, Mobile/Pensacola, Hattiesburg and New Orleans?
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Originally WEAR TV 3, the ABC affiliate for Pensacola/Mobile, had their tower close to Pensacola while WALA and WKRG, the Mobile/Pensacola NBC and CBS affiliates, had their towers on the eastern shore of Mobile Bay. WEAR's tower was too far from Biloxi for OTA reception so they got their own ABC affiliate, WLOX TV 13, over in Mississippi. Now WEAR and WPMI, ABC and NBC for Mobile/Pensacola, broadcast from the same tower farm halfway between Mobile and Pensacola. This works out great for Mobile and Pensacola but the third city in our TV DMA, Fort Walton Beach, is so far to the east that they really don't have OTA TV as an option there. I assume the original intent was for Mobile - Biloxi to be one market and Pensacola - Fort Walton to be another market.

Why stop at CBS? It was announced late last year that Dothan (Alabama) was getting a LPTV NBC affiliate (giving Dothan a full slate of the big 4 networks). If WLOX is going to be a ABC/CBS affiliate I wonder if NBC will give Biloxi their own affiliate anytime soon? WKFK-LP channel 7 or Fox 25 WXXV could pick it up... but in the end it appears Biloxi will be left with only one local TV news station and if the Mobile and New Orleans stations are removed from cable/satellite for a new local CBS (and potentially a NBC) station that will give WLOX a complete monopoly on Biloxi for local or even adjacent market news. Not a very good outcome.
 
poledo said:
Why stop at CBS? It was announced late last year that Dothan (Alabama) was getting a LPTV NBC affiliate (giving Dothan a full slate of the big 4 networks).
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That being said, is the NBC station on the air in Dothan yet? The owners, New Moon Communications, bought a few ex-TBN low-powered repeaters from the Minority Media Telecommunications Council in markets where there's no local NBC affiliate (Jonesboro, Arkansas was another city), but I'm not sure if these stations started broadcasting yet, of there was any effort to start one.

poledo said:
but in the end it appears Biloxi will be left with only one local TV news station and if the Mobile and New Orleans stations are removed from cable/satellite for a new local CBS (and potentially a NBC) station that will give WLOX a complete monopoly on Biloxi for local or even adjacent market news. Not a very good outcome.
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Some small markets, such as Lima, Ohio and Victoria, Texas, already have a monopoly on aerial network programming run by a single broadcaster. But in these markets, the local cable systems still carry some network affiliates from adjacent markets, especially those that have local affiliates on LPTVs, which don't enjoy the same protections as full-powered stations.
 
azumanga said:
poledo said:
Why stop at CBS? It was announced late last year that Dothan (Alabama) was getting a LPTV NBC affiliate (giving Dothan a full slate of the big 4 networks).
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That being said, is the NBC station on the air in Dothan yet? The owners, New Moon Communications, bought a few ex-TBN low-powered repeaters from the Minority Media Telecommunications Council in markets where there's no local NBC affiliate (Jonesboro, Arkansas was another city), but I'm not sure if these stations started broadcasting yet, of there was any effort to start one.
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New Moon is supposed to have started an NBC station in Jackson, TN also. But according to this article from November 2011, the stations have been delayed. I can't find any more recent articles about it.

www.broadcastingcable.com/article/477183-Launch_of_New_Moon_s_NBC_Affiliates_Delayed.php

I doubt those stations ever happen.
 
I'm gonna try to predict their pre-Fall weekday schedule. They said they were slating a Spring launch, so most syndicated shows won't be available due to them being on WXXV. Which is tough because WXXV crams so many programs between the Fox channel and the MyNetTV channel. So here goes...

5am Good Morning Mississippi (simulcast with 13-1)
7am CBS This Morning
9am Shop South Mississippi
9:30am Jeopardy rerun
10am The Price is Right
11am The Young and The Restless
Noon WLOX News at Noon
12:30pm The Bold and The Beautiful
1pm The Talk
2pm Let's Make a Deal
3pm The Insider
3:30pm Extra
4pm Jeopardy
4:30pm The 4:30 Show
5pm WLOX News at 5pm (simulcast)
5:30pm CBS Evening News
6pm WLOX News at 6pm (simulcast)
6:30pm Entertainment Tonight
7-10pm CBS Primetime
10pm WLOX News at 10pm (simulcast)
10:35pm The Late Show
11:35pm The Late Late Show
12:35am WLOX News at 10pm (replay)
1:05am Til Death
1:35am Til Death
2:05am CBS Up To The Minute
4:30am CBS Morning News
 
Putting up a full powered LPTV NBC broadcast in Dothan seems like it would be a very good idea... if it was a simulcast of Montgomery's NBC affiliate, WSFA, complete with the local Montgomery nightly news and perhaps some local Dothan commercials replacing local Montgomery commercials. Dothan is a poor enough town that the number of people dependent on OTA television stations is probably above average. If the LPTV NBC affiliate goes on the air in Dothan and WSFA is removed from cable and satellite... that would be bad for the television viewers.

The television markets adjacent to Dothan all have very strong NBC stations which is why NBC is (or would be) the last network to pick up an affiliate in the small market. All Dothan needs is a centrally located LPTV station to cover the area without good reception from another NBC affiliate and no one would want to take bandwidth away from the CBS, ABC, or Fox affiliates to create a full HD resolution NBC sub channel.

I'm too far east of Dothan to pick up any LPTV stations from there, I get NBC from: WALB, Albany, WJHG, Panama City, and WTWC, Tallahassee. I don't believe I've seen anyone post on the television board that is local for Dothan TV.
 
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