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Biloxi gains a CBS affiliate

jerseyfla said:
5pm WLOX News at 5pm (simulcast)
5:30pm CBS Evening News
6pm WLOX News at 6pm (simulcast)
6:30pm Entertainment Tonight
7-10pm CBS Primetime
10pm WLOX News at 10pm (simulcast)
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I'd hope they don't waste time with the news simulcast. Swap the 6PM news simulcast with Entertainment Tonight at 6 and a replay of the WLOX 6 o'clock news at 6:30. I don't know if the CBS national news is available to run at 5 instead of 5:30 but swapping that with the 5 o'clock WLOX news would also be a plus. Plug in Andy Griffith at 10pm and/or any other time news is running on WLOX/ABC. Mayberry does very well in these parts. Offering local newscasts at 5, 5:30, 6 and 6:30 between WLOX/ABC and WLOX/CBS would be good for the audience and offering up the CBS national newscast at 5 or 6 instead of 5:30 when ABC and NBC are on couldn't hurt.
 
Mr. X said:
azumanga said:
poledo said:
Why stop at CBS? It was announced late last year that Dothan (Alabama) was getting a LPTV NBC affiliate (giving Dothan a full slate of the big 4 networks).
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That being said, is the NBC station on the air in Dothan yet? The owners, New Moon Communications, bought a few ex-TBN low-powered repeaters from the Minority Media Telecommunications Council in markets where there's no local NBC affiliate (Jonesboro, Arkansas was another city), but I'm not sure if these stations started broadcasting yet, of there was any effort to start one.
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New Moon is supposed to have started an NBC station in Jackson, TN also. But according to this article from November 2011, the stations have been delayed. I can't find any more recent articles about it.

www.broadcastingcable.com/article/477183-Launch_of_New_Moon_s_NBC_Affiliates_Delayed.php

I doubt those stations ever happen.
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This sale has always seemed fishy to me. For the Dothan, AL area, there were already several licensed digital LPTVs that could have served the very purpose WDON (still without a digital CP) was allegedly purchased for. And considering the press that the MMTC got for this sale, one of those ready-to-go Dothan LPTVs happens to be a silent class A station owned by local African-American-owned broadcaster.

It wouldn't surprise me that the 'delay' is either money woes for New Moon, or one of the Dothan full-powers working a deal to add NBC on a subchannel.
 
Nate Wesley said:
It wouldn't surprise me that the 'delay' is either money woes for New Moon, or one of the Dothan full-powers working a deal to add NBC on a subchannel.
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WDHN ABC 18 in Dothan still has no sub channels and it has a nice small footprint of a signal that wouldn't encroach on WSFA, WJHG, or WALB, the NBC affiliate's that people in the Dothan market are watching today. I thought it had been announced that Bounce was going to be WDHN's first sub channel, but it wasn't up last weekend when I was in town. The Dothan Fox affiliate is on a really short tower and the signal sucks, I don't know what they are running for subs. WTVY is running a .2 and .3 with CW on one and maybe MyNet on the other. It seems that Gray would be the best candidate when dealing with the big 4 networks. WSFA has always been the defacto NBC affiliate for Dothan while WTVY was the CBS affiliate for Panama City. Gray could drop the two subs on WTVY in Dothan and WJGH in Panama City and run WTVY with CBS/NBC and WJHG with NBC/CBS. But if NBC has entered into a deal to allow a minority company to pick up the NBC affiliation for Dothan then it's a done deal, doesn't matter if someone else is better qualified or deserving of the contract.

I'm just plain sick of minorities getting business perks that they don't necessarily deserve. I'm in the process of changing my race from white to Creek Indian so I can get those perks that I don't deserve. I know my ancestors were quite ashamed of their Indian blood, but I don't really care. My ancestors are dead and it's easier to make money if you look white and can check off that minority owned business box. Ain't it cool what can happen after momma gets obsessed with Ancestry.com?
 
In Gulfport (which happens to be the second largest city in Mississippi, BTW), the only Mobile station available on cable is WKRG, and you get WWL, WDSU, WVUE, WYES, WGNO, and WNOL (all from New Orleans) to go along with WLOX, WXXV, and WMAH.

Adding a CBS sub-channel to WLOX ain't going to hurt it one bit, in my opinion.
 
Biloxi is also about to gain an NBC affiliate.

- Trip
 
johnnya2k6 said:
In Gulfport (which happens to be the second largest city in Mississippi, BTW), the only Mobile station available on cable is WKRG, and you get WWL, WDSU, WVUE, WYES, WGNO, and WNOL (all from New Orleans) to go along with WLOX, WXXV, and WMAH.

Adding a CBS sub-channel to WLOX ain't going to hurt it one bit, in my opinion.
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If adding a CBS sub-channel to WLOX causes Cable and Satellite in the Biloxi market to drop WWL and WKRG I think people are going to notice. Two top out of market news sources will go away and be replaced with nothing or a simulcast of WLOX news. Just sayin'.
 
I could tell you before I'm allowed to, but then I would have to kill you. :)

- Trip
 
poledo said:
johnnya2k6 said:
In Gulfport (which happens to be the second largest city in Mississippi, BTW), the only Mobile station available on cable is WKRG, and you get WWL, WDSU, WVUE, WYES, WGNO, and WNOL (all from New Orleans) to go along with WLOX, WXXV, and WMAH.

Adding a CBS sub-channel to WLOX ain't going to hurt it one bit, in my opinion.
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If adding a CBS sub-channel to WLOX causes Cable and Satellite in the Biloxi market to drop WWL and WKRG I think people are going to notice. Two top out of market news sources will go away and be replaced with nothing or a simulcast of WLOX news. Just sayin'.
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It think all depends on the station forcing the deletion of those stations. WLOX has a big time owner in Raycom where Fox affiliate WXXV is owned by small time Morris Multimedia. WXXV's programming and picture quality is cable public access quality, it's bad! And I think it's mostly because they spend a lot of money picking up top tier shows that WLOX does not show. When the Fox network or WXXV (depending on who you talk to) demanded that New Orleans Saints owned WVUE out of NOLA get kicked off of the cable lineups in Western Harrison County there was an uproar by viewers. LIN owned WALA in Mobile is still on Cableone in Eastern Harrison and Jackson Counties but I emailed WXXV and they said "Expect WALA to go away soon".

WLOX is really the only game in town to most people. WLOX had outstanding, award winning coverage during Hurricane Katrina (They even produced a DVD about it.) and the only station that people watch here for news. I think when WLOX launches their CBS subchannel, fewer viewers will be unhappy about it than WVUE or WALA going away. I think the deletion will be broke down by region Gulfport and west will lose WKRG, Cable east of Gulfport will lose WWL, Satellite will lose WWL. As we all know WWL is dominant station in NOLA, has more local programming (No CBS This Morning) and outstanding Mardi Gras coverage. WKRG shows every CBS network show, is the only station in Mobile with Wall to Wall Mobile Mardi Gras Parade coverage on Fat Tuesday, and is known for their continual stance that Andy Griffith is a great lead-in for CBS primetime (I highly disagree, I've even said on their fb "Do we live in Gainesville?"). I don't think WLOX getting CBS is a bad thing at all! Hopefully they don't start out showing infomercials in any timeslots before Fall season.
 
poledo said:
I'd hope they don't waste time with the news simulcast. Swap the 6PM news simulcast with Entertainment Tonight at 6 and a replay of the WLOX 6 o'clock news at 6:30. I don't know if the CBS national news is available to run at 5 instead of 5:30 but swapping that with the 5 o'clock WLOX news would also be a plus. Plug in Andy Griffith at 10pm and/or any other time news is running on WLOX/ABC. Mayberry does very well in these parts. Offering local newscasts at 5, 5:30, 6 and 6:30 between WLOX/ABC and WLOX/CBS would be good for the audience and offering up the CBS national newscast at 5 or 6 instead of 5:30 when ABC and NBC are on couldn't hurt.
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The likelyhood of them doing a direct simulcast of their news on the subchannel is pretty slim. One big reason: stations want to be able to sell advertising at the highest rate possible (on both signals) and simulcasting splits the viewership.

In some markets that have put a "big 3" on the sub, they've expanded newscasts and placed them in non-traditional hours. I could see WLOX kicking things off at 4pm with news on the .1, 4:30 on the .2, 5:00 on .1, 5:30 network on both, 6:00 on .1 and 6:30 on .2.

As an alternative, news from 4:30 - 5:30 on .1 (which already exists), 5:30 network on both, 6:00 on .1 and 6:30 on .2.

At 10, news on .1 and a syndicated program on .2 (I wouldn't put Andy on .2 at 10 just for the sheer possibility that it might depress viewership for the 10pm news).

KTEN-Sherman/Denison programs their NBC/ABC combo similarly (though it appears they pre-produce a 10pm news for the ABC).
 
Tim-In-Houston said:
poledo said:
I'd hope they don't waste time with the news simulcast. Swap the 6PM news simulcast with Entertainment Tonight at 6 and a replay of the WLOX 6 o'clock news at 6:30. I don't know if the CBS national news is available to run at 5 instead of 5:30 but swapping that with the 5 o'clock WLOX news would also be a plus. Plug in Andy Griffith at 10pm and/or any other time news is running on WLOX/ABC. Mayberry does very well in these parts. Offering local newscasts at 5, 5:30, 6 and 6:30 between WLOX/ABC and WLOX/CBS would be good for the audience and offering up the CBS national newscast at 5 or 6 instead of 5:30 when ABC and NBC are on couldn't hurt.
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The likelyhood of them doing a direct simulcast of their news on the subchannel is pretty slim. One big reason: stations want to be able to sell advertising at the highest rate possible (on both signals) and simulcasting splits the viewership.

In some markets that have put a "big 3" on the sub, they've expanded newscasts and placed them in non-traditional hours. I could see WLOX kicking things off at 4pm with news on the .1, 4:30 on the .2, 5:00 on .1, 5:30 network on both, 6:00 on .1 and 6:30 on .2.

As an alternative, news from 4:30 - 5:30 on .1 (which already exists), 5:30 network on both, 6:00 on .1 and 6:30 on .2.

At 10, news on .1 and a syndicated program on .2 (I wouldn't put Andy on .2 at 10 just for the sheer possibility that it might depress viewership for the 10pm news).

KTEN-Sherman/Denison programs their NBC/ABC combo similarly (though it appears they pre-produce a 10pm news for the ABC).
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I see your point about advertisers but really WLOX is competiting against itself. Like I said for news programming they are the only game in town so they are monopolizing themselves either way. Whether they watch 13-1 or 13-2, they still reap in the viewers.

I look to Jacksonville's WTLV/WJXX First Coast News Duopoly as an example. They simulcast the 5-7am newscasts, the 5-6:30pm newscasts, and 11pm newscast. So my example was done based on what they do in Jacksonville and WTLV is the #1 station in the market, WJXX is probably #4 but was never a factor because they were an upstart ABC affiliate in 1997 when Albritton originally established the channel to take WJKS' place.
 
poledo said:
I AM ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WATCHING ANDY AFTER THE 6 O'CLOCK NEWS! I'm under 40.
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People would have noticed your post even without all of the letters capitalized in the first sentence. If it was done to express anger, that was unnecessary.
 
Mario-500 said:
poledo said:
I AM ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WATCHING ANDY AFTER THE 6 O'CLOCK NEWS! I'm under 40.
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People would have noticed your post even without all of the letters capitalized in the first sentence. If it was done to express anger, that was unnecessary.
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For the life of me I can not figure out why you find it necessary to inform me of this.

Oh yeah, I like Andy!
 
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