"Black Friday Special"

[SUPERCASTER]

From the rover:

Listening to LOCAL Classical Music in HD,

Probably live, 24/7 too.
How does your town support all those classical musicians?

Ahhhh, well, they are "digital" musicians, after all, and so the the cost is manageable, as compared to the higher-maintainence cost analog musicians...

All these "digital" musicians, are local?
How does your town support all those "digital" recording classical musicians?

We beam them in from other worlds and locally transmit them.

So they are not really local, and neither is the "local" classical radio show, as you claimed.
The "local" classical music broadcast is almost all recorded and/or originates elsewhere, right?

This is similar to other posts that claim all newscasts are still live and local, and not just wraparounds for recorded actualities. Even network (radio and TV) newscasts are often delayed for later rebroadcast, and all HD stations delay their analog and digital audio at least 8 seconds, so they are not really "live" either.
How about the DJ show that is composed almost entirely of delayed recordings, do you consider that "live and local" as well?

If you eliminate a couple of minutes of often annoying DJ chatter and all the commercials, promos, jingles and sound effects, you are left with a pre-programmed iPod mini-jukebox (or on shuffle), or a podcast, right?

Few remember that the FCC has exact definitions for what is really live and local, and what is not. This stuff isn't either live or local. You are just passing it of as being live and local, because virtually no radio or TV programming is either, anymore.

Just count the minutes of what is actually live and local, and see for yourself. Just because someone opens a mic and talks for a couple of minutes an hour, does not make the entire show live and local.

If a program is delayed, it is not "live" and if it comes from outside the main studio(s) it is not "local".

"Portions of this board posting were delayed (recorded), for rebroadcast in other time zones."

 

[clouseau]

Hey Soup,

You like Podcasts. We get it. You don't care about live interaction. We get it. But stuff like this is just plain silly.

..all HD stations delay their analog and digital audio at least 8 seconds, so they are not really "live" either.
How about the DJ show that is composed almost entirely of delayed recordings, do you consider that "live and local" as well?

If there is actually someone there and it is love and local, yes. And actually I really don't like the 8 second delay either.

Clouseau

 

[SUPERCASTER]

Hey Soup,

You like Podcasts. We get it. You don't care about live interaction. We get it. But stuff like this is just plain silly.

..all HD stations delay their analog and digital audio at least 8 seconds, so they are not really "live" either.
How about the DJ show that is composed almost entirely of delayed recordings, do you consider that "live and local" as well?

If there is actually someone there and it is love and local, yes. And actually I really don't like the 8 second delay either.

Clouseau

There is not much "live interaction", especially of the local kind, on broadcast radio today. Mostly CD's, commercials, recorded promos and bits, network or remote sources that are also often recorded. Perhaps live and local could be the salvation of radio. HD/iBiquity digital certainly is not.
Streaming internet stations and podcasts are often just as current as broadcast programs.
Broadcaster and independent "netcasters" are offering their programming, news and weather casts on the internet, with wide acceptance and increasing popularity, while over the air broadcasters are facing accelerating ratings declines. Is that what is really motivating your comments?

 

[clouseau]

There is not much "live interaction", especially of the local kind, on broadcast radio today.

Sorry, Soup, but this just isn't the case. Let's look at my market. Around #150 with 28 stations. Not exactly a market brimming with extra advertising cash.

Let's look at mornings.
88.7 Live via satellite with local cut ins every 30 minutes. Weather, Network Time and a rip and read local newscast once an hour.

89.5 Easy Listening - Live morning show. News, Traffic, Weather and time.

90.3 NPR Morning Edition - Live news drop ins, Time and weather.

91.1 Satellite Christian - Might be straight off the bird.

91.7 Live Christian. News Weather Sports Time Traffic. Very local

92.7 Live morning show. Local news from sister station. Time Weather Traffic

93.5 Live person - Translator from out of market. Geared to my town. Veryllittle info, though.

93.9 Oldies. Live in AM. WX time . News and sports from sister station reporter. All live.

94.7 Went brokered over the weekend. Doesn't have %$#%^#. Had live person before that.

95.5 Live morning show. WX, Time contoniuously. News and sports from Sister 2x and hour.

96.5 Live Morning show. WX TEMP,Traffic News headlines.

97.5 Live morning show. WX Temp News Sports

98.3 Spaninsh. Live morning show Wx Traffic News Sports Time.


Do I need to go on??? Your wrong Soup. I understand it does not appeal to you, but there IS info on the radio. And a good chunk of it IS live.

Mostly CD's, commercials, recorded promos and bits, network or remote sources that are also often recorded.

Nothing wrong with that when held together by a local person. Sorry, whatever artist it is you like will NOT be in every studio every morning.

Perhaps live and local could be the salvation of radio.

Agreed. It is actually. Most radio people know this.

HD/iBiquity digital certainly is not.

Agreed again. However a small minded view that "Either" is "THE" answer is wrong also. It's a little more complicated than that.COntent is King and frankly, Streaming content just doesn't hold up. At least not yet.

Streaming internet stations and podcasts are often just as current as broadcast programs.

Saying it 200 times doesn't make it true. There ARE a very few live streams, but you'll never tell me that even a majority of streams are attended. More like single digit percent at the highest. Most of it is a computer in a closet somewhere. Good if you like music. Bad if you like radio.We're still waitng for the timecheck in the podcast.

Broadcaster and independent "netcasters" are offering their programming, news and weather casts on the internet, with wide acceptance and increasing popularity,{/quote]

Yes the popularity is increasing. Of course 15 years ago theree was NO streaming so do the math. Kind like HD radio. I suspect both will grow.

...while over the air broadcasters are facing accelerating ratings declines.

Rating declines in radio are minimal. Clear Channel just sold for $27 BILLION dollars if you count debt assmption. Obviously the business world hasn't quite written off radio yet.

Is that what is really motivating your comments?

No my comments are based on business information and real world revenue. At some time in the future Streaming may connverge with broadcasting (That's actually happening now.) However in the meantime, how about if the board returns to discussion of HD Radio and the Streaming cheerleading moves to the Streaming board. Also please note that the HD board members are not down there trashing streaming or cheerleading for HD. Does the board here get the same courtesy from you?

Clouseau