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BOB AND TOM LEAVING

Ok here is what I don't understand. Why is everybody talking like the show is off the air? I was flipping through the stations like most PD's do and Bob and Tom was on the air as of Thursday morning. So all this talk is hogwash cause it is obvious to me that Forever is not getting rid of them.

Spack: I agree with you that Jerry may not be the best fit in mornings at QWK Rock, but if they were to drop Bob And Tom they would have no numbers in the morning. No matter who they put in there. If Stern was still syndicated that might be the only way to gain and retain numbers. The boycott at GMR was unbelievable when we dropped the show. We had everything from people who wrote letters to a guy who threatened to burn the building down (he later apologized). People won't be happy is the point and they will go somewhere else.

Jerry might not be the best choice but loyal QWK Rock fans will stay with station Bob and Tom or no Bob and Tom and anybody who listens to QWK knows who Jerry is. Glen is right, he is not really an announcer type but he fits in with QWK's format. A lot better than say Ken Purell would have, some people have a voice for a certain format Jerry has it for QWK Rock and The Bus, but The Lite is defiantly out, if you know what I mean.
 
Re: Yeah, NO

tsimpson said:
Not a classic rock station in the country that targets 18 -34. Maybe years and years ago.
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WQWK is an Active Rocker and as such targets 18-34 Men.

Bob and Tom isn't local, and I don't think it matters. When Stern was on regular radio, he dominated mornings in virtually every market he was in. Yeah, it was local - if you were in New York City.

Bob and Tom have great numbers. Listeners don't seem to care that it isn't local. If they go away, the numbers will go down. Despite those great numbers, the show is filled with PSAs. Maybe they could sell a live local morning show, thus making them more money and saving them the cost of Bob and Tom. The trade-off would be lower ratings, but if they can sell a lower-rated show where they can't sell B&T, maybe they don't care.
 
ameyer said:
Ok here is what I don't understand. Why is everybody talking like the show is off the air? I was flipping through the stations like most PD's do and Bob and Tom was on the air as of Thursday morning. So all this talk is hogwash cause it is obvious to me that Forever is not getting rid of them.

Spack: I agree with you that Jerry may not be the best fit in mornings at QWK Rock, but if they were to drop Bob And Tom they would have no numbers in the morning. No matter who they put in there. If Stern was still syndicated that might be the only way to gain and retain numbers. The boycott at GMR was unbelievable when we dropped the show. We had everything from people who wrote letters to a guy who threatened to burn the building down (he later apologized). People won't be happy is the point and they will go somewhere else.

Jerry might not be the best choice but loyal QWK Rock fans will stay with station Bob and Tom or no Bob and Tom and anybody who listens to QWK knows who Jerry is. Glen is right, he is not really an announcer type but he fits in with QWK's format. A lot better than say Ken Purell would have, some people have a voice for a certain format Jerry has it for QWK Rock and The Bus, but The Lite is defiantly out, if you know what I mean.
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With all due repect AJ, you may want to fix your own station before deciding what's right for OTHER stations.

I think the QWK staff is fantastic. Jerry like to push towards "the line", but it's Active Rock...HE SHOULD. Troy is solid on the air and a great PD...and Scotty has come a long way.

As for the Chris and Jim choice...both great guys...but the excuse at the Buzz was always the signal...Joe-FM has the SAME signal and look what they did. I know that the Alternative format is pretty much dead, but it wasn't even like their cume dipped after AM Drive. I think staying in-house is a great move.
 
With all due respect Glen maybe you need to reread what I wrote. Never said I was making a decision of what was right or wrong. I also said that if QWK was to get rid of Bob and Tom that it would be a better idea to put someone that QWK listeners know and not someone who is unknown.
 
ameyer said:
With all due respect Glen maybe you need to reread what I wrote. Never said I was making a decision of what was right or wrong. I also said that if QWK was to get rid of Bob and Tom that it would be a better idea to put someone that QWK listeners know and not someone who is unknown.
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AJ, you said: "if they were to drop Bob And Tom they would have no numbers in the morning. No matter who they put in there."

To me, this is you saying what is right for QWK Rock...you even say that in your response to me. You're entitled to your opinion (which is what this board is all about) and it is my opinion that before you theorize what QWK needs to/should do, you should fix your own station. :)
 
mistermicrophone said:
ameyer said:
With all due respect Glen maybe you need to reread what I wrote. Never said I was making a decision of what was right or wrong. I also said that if QWK was to get rid of Bob and Tom that it would be a better idea to put someone that QWK listeners know and not someone who is unknown.
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AJ, you said: "if they were to drop Bob And Tom they would have no numbers in the morning. No matter who they put in there."

To me, this is you saying what is right for QWK Rock...you even say that in your response to me. You're entitled to your opinion (which is what this board is all about) and it is my opinion that before you theorize what QWK needs to/should do, you should fix your own station. :)
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Quick is doa. The audience doesn't have spending money. Nice format, lacking bizz...
 
mistermicrophone said:
ameyer said:
With all due respect Glen maybe you need to reread what I wrote. Never said I was making a decision of what was right or wrong. I also said that if QWK was to get rid of Bob and Tom that it would be a better idea to put someone that QWK listeners know and not someone who is unknown.
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AJ, you said: "if they were to drop Bob And Tom they would have no numbers in the morning. No matter who they put in there."

To me, this is you saying what is right for QWK Rock...you even say that in your response to me. You're entitled to your opinion (which is what this board is all about) and it is my opinion that before you theorize what QWK needs to/should do, you should fix your own station. :)

Yeah I didn't make it very clear what I was trying to say. Let me try this again. Is there any idea how many people who listen to Bob and Tom stay with Qwk the rest of the day, and if the show were to be dropped would those listners tune back in after 10am if they did not like what it was replaced with?
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IT DOES SEEM ODD THAT BOB AND TOM ARE STILL ON THE AIR BUT MY SOURCE IS EXTREMELY RELIABLE AND SAYS IT WILL BE ANY DAY NOW
 
Again, to understand you must look at the big picture. Bob and Tom are bigtime talent and probably cost top dollar. Qwkrock has suffered as a Forever property and is most certainly not being sold properly. Sales (actually management, as in corporate) miscues mean no money coming in. Therefore cost will be the deciding factor.
Prediction:
B&T go. Local morning team or person replaces. Revenues continue to decline.
Al Dame laughs.
 
WISEMAN, YOU WRITE LIKE IT'S A HORRIBLY MISGUIDED STEP TO HIRE SOMEONE IN THE AREA AND GIVE STATE COLLEGE A LOCAL MORNING SHOW. JUST BECAUSE FOREVER DOES SOMETHING DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY MAKE IT WRONG. A LOCAL MINDED MORNING SHOW IS JUST WHAT THAT STATION SEEMS TO NEED. THAT IS IF BOB AND TOM ARE EVEN LEAVING. IT'S PAST THE DATE THAT I HAD ORIGINALLY HEARD FOR THEIR CONTRACT RUNNING OUT. WHO KNOWS AT THIS POINT?
 
My question is, what do they have to gain by dropping Bob & Tom (if they are even dropping them)? Do they hope to increase the morning show ratings with a local show? If so, it's a tall order. I haven't seen the morning ratings for the latest book, but they were very strong in the Spring book.

They may save some money by going local, because chances are they'll plug in a jock they already have, shuffle some people around and voicetrack the mid-day shift. If they are having trouble selling B&T, and the perceived objection is that the show isn't local, maybe they will leverage the change into increased sales.
 
Gentleman, (or gentle-ladies)
You miss the point.
The money must flow. B&T are expensive. QwkRock is owned by managers run amuck who have let (or thought) the dollars flow automatically. Now they have mis-managed themselves into a bind. B&T go BU-BYE.
New talent gets a few months to suffer (with no ratings) then get fired. Kerby and Donald and company scratch their heads, Logan points at, who knows, at this point? Nicholas, Sumerau, Shields, Bedell, Yourchak, .... Zimmerman?!
 
wiseman said:
Gentleman, (or gentle-ladies)
You miss the point.
The money must flow. B&T are expensive. QwkRock is owned by managers run amuck who have let (or thought) the dollars flow automatically. Now they have mis-managed themselves into a bind. B&T go BU-BYE.
New talent gets a few months to suffer (with no ratings) then get fired. Kerby and Donald and company scratch their heads, Logan points at, who knows, at this point? Nicholas, Sumerau, Shields, Bedell, Yourchak, .... Zimmerman?!
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I hope you were not referring to the late Bob Zimmerman. The man just died and the reference in it's context is NOT funny! :mad:
 
No offense intended. I think Mr. Z. would have appreciated the sarcasm. He was one of Forever's great critics. And his stature in the market was always resented by the Altoona carpetbaggers. Apologies to any that didn't get the reference.
 
Becker said:
wiseman said:
Gentleman, (or gentle-ladies)
You miss the point.
The money must flow. B&T are expensive. QwkRock is owned by managers run amuck who have let (or thought) the dollars flow automatically. Now they have mis-managed themselves into a bind. B&T go BU-BYE.
New talent gets a few months to suffer (with no ratings) then get fired. Kerby and Donald and company scratch their heads, Logan points at, who knows, at this point? Nicholas, Sumerau, Shields, Bedell, Yourchak, .... Zimmerman?!
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I hope you were not referring to the late Bob Zimmerman. The man just died and the reference in it's context is NOT funny! :mad:
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Nelson.
 
Spackler1 said:
Becker said:
wiseman said:
Gentleman, (or gentle-ladies)
You miss the point.
The money must flow. B&T are expensive. QwkRock is owned by managers run amuck who have let (or thought) the dollars flow automatically. Now they have mis-managed themselves into a bind. B&T go BU-BYE.
New talent gets a few months to suffer (with no ratings) then get fired. Kerby and Donald and company scratch their heads, Logan points at, who knows, at this point? Nicholas, Sumerau, Shields, Bedell, Yourchak, .... Zimmerman?!
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I hope you were not referring to the late Bob Zimmerman. The man just died and the reference in it's context is NOT funny! :mad:
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Nelson.
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What the hell is that?

Anyways, Mr. Wiseman, after reading your post again, and reading your response, my apologies to you. You obviously meant no harm.
 
The Bob and Tom show was okay at best but clearly they don't have what it takes to last in many markets. Who the heck is Charlie Hoo Hoo?
 
I am unconcerned about Bob and/or Tom. One of them mumbles. Chick is cool.
I am a Ron and Fez man myself, although, I do not foresee them selling that program in this area, as there were only two people whom I know of that liked Ron and Fez around here and one of the guys left for the midwest because of stringent lawn code violations.
Anyone else like Ron and Fez? Could they make it here?
 
Ron and Fez aren't even syndicated they are on 1 station and XM
 
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