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Bombing at Boston Marathon.

KTRH and KROI are two different animals. It's about like comparing KUHA and KRBE. KTRH has their audience and a good product as far as conservative talk goes. KROI has a good all news service. KUHF has a good NCE News/Talk service. In each instance these are different animals and much like comparing apples and oranges. In my mind, comparing KTRH to KROI is like comparing watermelons to strawberries.

I think KTRH hanging on to the 'news station' handle is pretty stupid. Certainly if they weren't insecure about what they were doing they would call themselves what they are: News/Talk. I think the 'news station' handle is just to take a dig at KROI like one station I worked for that ran Paul Harvey on a per inquiry spot in unsold avails to take a dig at our competitor that ran Paul Harvey Commentarys. I was always taught if you had good product on the air you ignored the competition over the air and would win based on the quality of your product. By KTRH hanging on to the news station handle it tells me they see KROI as a threat.
 
Scout said:
OK...it just seems like you hate KROI like it slept with your girlfriend, like it never paid back that money it borrowed from you. It's a very personal, intense hatred for someone who seems to have no dog in this fight.
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No dog in the fight at all, aside from my status as a P1 KTRH listener who gets tired of the bashing here. I listen to the station. I am a fan of the station. You don't see how this thread might be a bit offensive to a frequent KTRH listener?

If you guys want to bash it, that's OK I suppose. Just don't get too surprised when I inject a little reality into the discussion.

Here's more reality - the bombing was a national story. The nationally syndicated hosts on KTRH devoted entire shows to discussing and analyzing it. Sean Hannity had high profile analysts on that KROI's producers likely couldn't book.
 
Very good point about KTRH's talk hosts devoting their shows to ongoing coverage. That is what I would suspect would happen.

There is this very elusive point that hardly anyone sees. I suspect, if asked, the people who realize the KTRH syndicated talker is not local actually prefer voices they know are local delivering the same or even lower quality coverage. One of my first bosses told me about a human need to 'know' their world is safe before walking out the door. Possibly the idea that KROI had local voices amid the ABC feed was more comforting to those who might have feared bombs might go off in other major cities as well. Sure, it's a leap but I wonder how many flashed to 9-11 memories. Some claim I'm nuts for thinking this but I know when I have awakened with no cable TV, internet and such, I'm pretty unnerved until I find out what is going on.

The only beef I have with KTRH is the news station handle. News/Talk seems much better. I would be worried about the station living up to the expectations of some listeners. I was taught in retail that it was better to lose money making a really difficult customer happen than to let them be dissatisfied. If they won the battle, they tell friends. If they didn't, they tell even more friends. So, the only bash I have is the handle they use...other than that, no issues here.

Certainly KTRH beats KROI in the ratings. KTRH enjoys much longer TSLs thanks to talk personalities in multi-hour shows. KROI, I suspect, has low TSLs since their listeners are like to listen a few times a day for a few minutes. Has PPM solved that issue compared to the paper diary? I recall the 5 minutes in a quarter hour killed some stations that had rapid turnover of listeners.
 
No KTRH bashing by this listener...KTRH was a great News Radio station in their time... Now.... since they are mostly talk and very little news, I'm listening to 92.1... and in my humble opinion... as long as 12, 1200, 12000, 120000, or whatever, then the station is serving the public, therefore is not a waste of a good frequency (but what do I know... I'm just one of those darn listeners who are supposed to listen to what corporate radio wants them to).

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bturner said:
I think KTRH hanging on to the 'news station' handle is pretty stupid. Certainly if they weren't insecure about what they were doing they would call themselves what they are: News/Talk. I think the 'news station' handle is just to take a dig at KROI like one station I worked for that ran Paul Harvey on a per inquiry spot in unsold avails to take a dig at our competitor that ran Paul Harvey Commentarys. I was always taught if you had good product on the air you ignored the competition over the air and would win based on the quality of your product. By KTRH hanging on to the news station handle it tells me they see KROI as a threat.
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Well said, bturner. Radiogooroo, we certainly aren't trying to offend you as a listener. If KTRH is your cup of tea, that's great. It was mine too for many years. Reading over the various posts in this thread, it seems that quite a few share my opinion that KTRH is offensive with the blatant misrepresentation of what the station truly is these days. We're no fools, and our ears don't lie to us. What KTRH is airing nowadays is not news based radio. There isn't even a focus on news anymore.

We've been in a drought these last couple of years, my friend. What is going to happen when the sky finally opens up one day, like it notoriously does in this City, and we flood like we haven't done since Hurricane Ike. Is KTRH going to cover the road closures, detours, rescues, etc. like it used to? I have serious doubts. Who is going to be in the newsroom to relay the information to the public? The driving force behind what was "Newsradio 740 KTRH" is now working at KROI or KUHF. I just don't see how KTRH, especially during an emergency event, can get that vital information out to the public without having the overall manpower to do so. This is my gripe. You present the station as a news outlet, yet there's little left in the building to actually deliver the news that the public needs in a crucial situation. You just can't deliver up to the minute information off of a liner card.
 
purpledevil said:
Well said, bturner. Radiogooroo, we certainly aren't trying to offend you as a listener. If KTRH is your cup of tea, that's great. It was mine too for many years. Reading over the various posts in this thread, it seems that quite a few share my opinion that KTRH is offensive with the blatant misrepresentation of what the station truly is these days. We're no fools, and our ears don't lie to us. What KTRH is airing nowadays is not news based radio. There isn't even a focus on news anymore.
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Well guys, by all means carry on with this quest to get KTRH to change their positioning! You've convinced me. It's obviously a noble cause, and worthy of hours upon hours of fret and worry.

When you're done with KTRH, you can focus on all of these TV stations that call themselves "NewsChannel" or brand themselves as "News 8 or News 5." Just think about the horrible offense they're committing. At least KTRH and other stations like KTRH that bill themselves as "NewsRadio" are airing programs that generally talk about what's going on in the news. These TV stations are only airing news for a few hours per day, if that. The rest of the time, it's CSI, or American Idol, or Dancing With The Stars, etc.

That's not news! I'm so glad you guys have taken up this cause. There are dozens of these charlatans calling themselves "news" whatever while airing Two Broke Girls, and they must be stopped. Here's some stations to get you started:

http://www.newschannel5.com/

http://www.newschannel9.com/

http://www.wjla.com/news/newschannel-8/

http://www.9wsyr.com/default.aspx

http://www.newschannel10.com/

http://www.wptv.com/

http://wnyt.com/index.shtml

http://www.kcci.com/

http://www.wkrg.com/
 
radiogooroo said:
Well guys, by all means carry on with this quest to get KTRH to change their positioning! You've convinced me. It's obviously a noble cause, and worthy of hours upon hours of fret and worry.
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Personally, I hope you and KTRH find years and years of happiness together.
 
Scout said:
radiogooroo said:
Well guys, by all means carry on with this quest to get KTRH to change their positioning! You've convinced me. It's obviously a noble cause, and worthy of hours upon hours of fret and worry.
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Personally, I hope you and KTRH find years and years of happiness together.
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Dittos......
 
Scout said:
Personally, I hope you and KTRH find years and years of happiness together.
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I'm sure we will. Anyone want to place a bet as to which station will be around longer in its current form? Long after the news experiment has concluded on 92.1, I'm confident KTRH will still be doing what KTRH does.
 
I could care less what KTRH calls itself. I've trusted the moniker too many times to be let down and tuning elsewhere to get the information I needed at the time. Instead of it helping them, in my case it made me decide I couldn't count on them. My biggest beef was when many areas of Northwest Houston were flooding and KTRH told me to go online to get the info. The trouble was I had already founf two routes underwater and was trying to weave my way home at that time with no way to get online. There was no KROI at that time.

That's me personally. I have no beef with KTRH otherwise. However, I cannot say the same of the poster that proposes we go after all the TV stations. Lincoln once used a dog as a reference...can't recall the specifics but it was something like if everyone said a dog had 5 legs it doesn't make it so; a dog has only 4 and you can say otherwise all day long and it won't change the fact.

To compare KROI to KTRH is nonsense. They are in no way comparable in programming. Like I stated earlier, it's like comparing KRBE to KUHA.
 
bturner said:
I could care less what KTRH calls itself. I've trusted the moniker too many times to be let down and tuning elsewhere to get the information I needed at the time. Instead of it helping them, in my case it made me decide I couldn't count on them. My biggest beef was when many areas of Northwest Houston were flooding and KTRH told me to go online to get the info. The trouble was I had already founf two routes underwater and was trying to weave my way home at that time with no way to get online. There was no KROI at that time.

That's me personally. I have no beef with KTRH otherwise. However, I cannot say the same of the poster that proposes we go after all the TV stations. Lincoln once used a dog as a reference...can't recall the specifics but it was something like if everyone said a dog had 5 legs it doesn't make it so; a dog has only 4 and you can say otherwise all day long and it won't change the fact.

To compare KROI to KTRH is nonsense. They are in no way comparable in programming. Like I stated earlier, it's like comparing KRBE to KUHA.
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For me, it was the Gallery warehouse fire. If a major sponsor can't get news coverage of his warehouse fire located in a densely-packed, low-income neighborhood which historically has low Internet saturation, there's no news to be had, no blood left to squeeze from that turnip. Out-of-market news picked up on the Gallery fire while KTRH was still running Glenn Beck.
 
stan said:
But Glenn Beck off his meds is more entertaining than a fire.
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Well, exactly. Entertainment isn't news. It was the four-alarm fire, though, that made me realize the switch was complete.
 
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