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Book out 1/26

The Nashville book will be out Monday. Any one want to take a guess? Any moves in the works? What ya'll think?
 
Wind said:
The Nashville book will be out Monday.

I saw it earlier today.

The typical:
  • News/Talk up in election year.
  • Sports/Talk up during football season.

The interesting:
  • 95.5 still on a numbers slide. Why is this station suddenly losing the country FM battle? What's so different about it now than a year or so ago?
  • 97.1 continues to drop like a "rock"? Honestly, what format could they put here that would finally turn things around for this freq?
  • But whoa, check out Jack... are these numbers still good enough for South Central? Of course, they don't have to pay jocks with the format, but SC is used to riding high in this town.
 
I guess you have to look at "the real numbers" to see the Jack truth. It's held on longer than most.
As for 97.1, I still think it's signal is stronger in the right places than 92Q and could help C-rum increase
92Q's numbers a bit. Other than that, Scott needs to track down 102.5's old transmitter and get it's
signal back to where it was a couple of years ago. It just cuts out way to much. That may be a reason
for such dismal numbers. The River and Beat saw no issues from it. By the way, hats off to CC for managing
to pull those stations up together without hurting each other.

As for a format for 97? May I suggest that whatever they choose ... called it F-97. Obviously for format #97.

Speaking of F's ... Hats off to the Fan for inching up to a full number. Nothing like a hard fought good finish
during the peak of the format for a year. What mountain will it try to climb next?
 
Tibbs2 said:
I guess you have to look at "the real numbers" to see the Jack truth. It's held on longer than most.
As for 97.1, I still think it's signal is stronger in the right places than 92Q and could help C-rum increase
92Q's numbers a bit. Other than that, Scott needs to track down 102.5's old transmitter and get it's
signal back to where it was a couple of years ago. It just cuts out way to much. That may be a reason
for such dismal numbers. The River and Beat saw no issues from it. By the way, hats off to CC for managing
to pull those stations up together without hurting each other.

As for a format for 97? May I suggest that whatever they choose ... called it F-97. Obviously for format #97.

Speaking of F's ... Hats off to the Fan for inching up to a full number. Nothing like a hard fought good finish
during the peak of the format for a year. What mountain will it try to climb next?

If XM would come down on that $12.95 monthly rate, more people would say, screw Nashville Area Radio, and go to XM. As I've mention before, they CAN do local content, but the FCC will not allow them to because the NAB put up such a fight against it 8 or 9 years ago.

It's obvious that terrestrial radio is dying, not just in Nashville, but all over the country. We can thank Cumulus and Clear Channel for that.

The reason why "Jack" is doing so well is because it gives you a "taste of XM, Ipods, and soon to come, Internet Radio", which we will be able to even receive on our cell phones! I would say in 10-15 years, the religious/church community will start to dominate the AM & FM band. Grace Broadcasting will own over half of the FM's of Nashville, the secular audience will be gone! O.K, so what if my prediction of terrestrial radio, gets the old farts all stirred up.

The only format left for 97.1 is Adult Urban. I realize it's on 92Q, but people are tired of Tom Joyner and Doug Banks during the week, and the "weekend" programming on 92Q is what I call the "weakend" programming. The Party stinks, sounds too much like 101.1 and is splitting the Hip-Hop audience. WSM-AM will move on to XM and if we could get "national numbers" on WSM-AM, I think you would see it is fine and well, and will be here way after we are dead and gone, it will just be on satellite. The Rock plays the S.O.S. over and over, when will it die? The Wolf can't decide if it wants to be a country station or a classic rock station.

I don't know, I'm just rambling on????????

Tibbs, why do I need to find 102.5's old transmitter site? Any old gear out there? ???
 
Remember when John Sebastion transformed 95.5 into the WOLF? He got tons of criticism (liner cards/no personality,, adding classic rock to the playlist etc). Yet despite the criticism it did very well.

Today nobody is critical of the station, they are more in the mainstream of what a country station should sound like, they no longer play classic rock. Yet look how poorly they did this book.

Sometimes you can break the rules and succeed. Other times you can do what you are supposed to do and get lost in the shuffle.
 
Jay F said:
Remember when John Sebastion transformed 95.5 into the WOLF? He got tons of criticism

It was Sebastian that we made fun of, not the product. He's an excellent programmer, just takes himself WAY
too seriously. And though I've heard things are better now, he wasn't much of a people person in previous situations.
I have a friend that had a physical altercation with him at KZLA. However, the facts are this:
Sebastian rolls in...makes drastic changes (for the better)...the station improves. John then moves to the next challenge,
and usually the station returns to previous levels. Sure like him to stay at a station for two years or more and see what happens...
 
scottwmro said:
If XM would come down on that $12.95 monthly rate, more people would say, screw Nashville Area Radio, and go to XM. As I've mention before, they CAN do local content, but the FCC will not allow them to because the NAB put up such a fight against it 8 or 9 years ago.

That's not gonna happen. It's been confirmed that as early as March SiriusXM will be raising rates on secondary radios and charging for online listening.
 
scottwmro said:
Tibbs2 said:
I guess you have to look at "the real numbers" to see the Jack truth. It's held on longer than most.
As for 97.1, I still think it's signal is stronger in the right places than 92Q and could help C-rum increase
92Q's numbers a bit. Other than that, Scott needs to track down 102.5's old transmitter and get it's
signal back to where it was a couple of years ago. It just cuts out way to much. That may be a reason
for such dismal numbers. The River and Beat saw no issues from it. By the way, hats off to CC for managing
to pull those stations up together without hurting each other.

As for a format for 97? May I suggest that whatever they choose ... called it F-97. Obviously for format #97.

Speaking of F's ... Hats off to the Fan for inching up to a full number. Nothing like a hard fought good finish
during the peak of the format for a year. What mountain will it try to climb next?

If XM would come down on that $12.95 monthly rate, more people would say, screw Nashville Area Radio, and go to XM. As I've mention before, they CAN do local content, but the FCC will not allow them to because the NAB put up such a fight against it 8 or 9 years ago.

It's obvious that terrestrial radio is dying, not just in Nashville, but all over the country. We can thank Cumulus and Clear Channel for that.

The reason why "Jack" is doing so well is because it gives you a "taste of XM, Ipods, and soon to come, Internet Radio", which we will be able to even receive on our cell phones! I would say in 10-15 years, the religious/church community will start to dominate the AM & FM band. Grace Broadcasting will own over half of the FM's of Nashville, the secular audience will be gone! O.K, so what if my prediction of terrestrial radio, gets the old farts all stirred up.

The only format left for 97.1 is Adult Urban. I realize it's on 92Q, but people are tired of Tom Joyner and Doug Banks during the week, and the "weekend" programming on 92Q is what I call the "weakend" programming. The Party stinks, sounds too much like 101.1 and is splitting the Hip-Hop audience. WSM-AM will move on to XM and if we could get "national numbers" on WSM-AM, I think you would see it is fine and well, and will be here way after we are dead and gone, it will just be on satellite. The Rock plays the S.O.S. over and over, when will it die? The Wolf can't decide if it wants to be a country station or a classic rock station.

I don't know, I'm just rambling on????????

Tibbs, why do I need to find 102.5's old transmitter site? Any old gear out there? ???

I just do not see Satellite radio taking over or pushing out terrestrial FM radio anytime soon since most people still do not have satellite radio receivers in our cars and homes yet. Now I have satellite radio and I've had satellite radio since July 2002. Not to venture off course here, but the first day I got plugged into the satellite radio deal, I heard Deep Tracks playing Stevie Ray Vaughn's: Chili con Carney and I said whoaaa, I am home. Anyway, I am not trying to anger some of you all in here since I know many of you guys and gals have spent many years in Nashville radio or radio, but as much as I would like satellite radio to succeed, I still do not see terrestrial radio going down anytime soon. Radio needs some new life. I stopped listening to The rock after I got XM radio. How many times can a person hear "All right now" by Free? 97.1 did a Deep Trax program for a couple of months before they pulled the plug. If anyone with any degree of power and influence at CC or the Rock at 105.9 is listening. Take a chance and do a free form rock radio show. Do it in the evenings and get Joe Elvis to do it. Is Joe still at 105.9? Tell him: Joe, we have a huge rock library. Get in there and play those songs. Do not worry about sponsors, ratings or any of that kind of thing. Just get in there, be creative, go with your heart and soul and just do it. Off soapbox! LOL
 
Wow! Two posts in this thread about "breaking the rules." That's the only way to fly these
days and yet NO ONE in radio is doing that. Playing it safe is exactly what will kill the radio
star. Look at The Rock amd RQQ. Same songs for days on end is exactly how exciting? It's
like hearing the same sermon 1000 times, reading the same book, watching CNN or FOX mindlessly
for years. Predictable costs money. I am not suggesting that Sarge and Barb program AC/DC after
OUR favorite song in the world on MIX. But, an occasional "out of the norm" tune here and there
makes listeners wonder what might just be next. Right?

Sad thing, and not one person on this entire website ever responds, because we're all
numb to it ... IS THERE ONE PERSON who has actually convinced any major radio
craporation to BREAK the rules and been allowed to succeed? One example? Anybody?
Even Lightning 100, which did a bit better recently, is programmed to be unexceptionally
predictable. We all know it's only a matter of time before we hear Jason Mraz.

Argh!

Now, back to Lionel Richie...all's well.
 
SwissVol,With PPM stations that play familiar music thrive while those that play deep tracks or too much new music do poorly. So expect radio to become even more safe.

You mentioned Free-All Right Now. I heard it on a 1970 American Top 40 re-broadcast. It was interesting to hear it presented as a current, surrounded by all kinds of songs you would never hear any radio station play today. Little did they know in 1970 that "All Right Now" would never stop being played until the end of time.
 
Tibbs and Jay F, since you all took the time to respond. Since CC is cutting back staff all across the Nation, I doubt we will see anything such as what I posted about anytime soon either. Still, the goal is for someone to take chances again with something other than the same 300-500 songs again. Now I think terrestrial radio is safe for now, at some point down the road will terrestrial radio be safe? Will it eventually go the same road as AM. AM is pretty much talk, news and religious broadcasting with a few music stations here and there.

Back in 1970, the first time one of you guys put "All right now" down on the turntable, you probably thought that this tune certainly had potential to crack the charts, but did you think that after 1 month of playing this song over and over, you'd be sick of it? LOL And your right it never ends and manages to appeal to an entire new generation of rockers.
 
romer979fm said:
Jay F said:
Remember when John Sebastion transformed 95.5 into the WOLF? He got tons of criticism

It was Sebastian that we made fun of, not the product. He's an excellent programmer, just takes himself WAY
too seriously. And though I've heard things are better now, he wasn't much of a people person in previous situations.
I have a friend that had a physical altercation with him at KZLA. However, the facts are this:
Sebastian rolls in...makes drastic changes (for the better)...the station improves. John then moves to the next challenge,
and usually the station returns to previous levels. Sure like him to stay at a station for two years or more and see what happens...

Don't think that's going to happen. JS is busy at the Arizona Food and Gas Mart. However I do remember JS and Jan Jefferies getting into it over who wrote better liner cards :D
 
scottwmro said:
As I've mention before, they CAN do local content, but the FCC will not allow them to because the NAB put up such a fight against it 8 or 9 years ago.

They CAN'T do local content because they're in debt up to their earlobes. They are doing local traffic in a few very large markets. They buy it from Metro. So much for local content.

The FCC no longer cares about the NAB. Michael Copps is now in charge, and he hates big radio and the NAB.
 
BigA! Looks like XM/Serious-ly Screwed is in the same boat as CC, Crum and Chitadull.
To much debt and not enough revenues. They can barely cover the local markets either.

You'd think some of these companies that make millions off Dave Ramsey would actually
have listened to his advice. NO DEBT. Before the price bubble fell, they should have
sold the under-performing stations to jokes like Radio None and CBS and paid off the
big dogs to make it through inevitable rides like now. They missed their chance. Greed
and not being proactive past 30 days does not a good CEO make.
 
Tibbs2 said:
Before the price bubble fell, they should have
sold the under-performing stations to jokes like Radio None and CBS and paid off the
big dogs to make it through inevitable rides like now.

The underperformers have been on the market since 2004. You don't have to be a genius to know an underperformer when you see one. And with the glut of properties on the market, there's no need to buy one of the losers, even at fire sale prices. The exact same thing happened in the housing market, and it's why Fannie & Freddie are in trouble. A dog by any other name is still a dog.

As for operating without debt, it's simply not the American way. Who on this board has their home and credit cards all paid off? Raise your hands.
 
It's rude to ask people to raise their hands on this board, BigA. You'd get answers you would want
to read. Not everybody see the world through the mob mentality.

As for your comments on debt being the "American way." Profound insight. Wow! And look what it's going to
cost us all. It's the stupid way. Look at two radio companies locally licensed in Nashville. One is
generally top-rated, a small company owned by a debt-free family who didn't get caught up in
the allure of having to greedily own every station in every market. They're happy making an incredible
income. And with the slowdown, they can weather smaller revenues. Another single-station owner's
station is paid for and he doesn't need the money to survive. It's just his "toy" he loves to have and
he is a great guy who gives a lot back to his community everyday.

Then you have the All-American, shining examples of dignity, foresight and business brilliance, we'' call
the three C's all financially crippled, cutting good peoples throats everyday, people we all know.
They are ruining the radio industry every second. That's NOT the REAL American way, BigA. That's what
it has turned into.


You asked for a show of hands, raise your hand "BigA" if you think this is the right way to run a business?

It's a formula for disaster and all those who were blocked out of ownership because the ticket of admission
was to high are screwed by the few billionaires who pulled this nightmare off at the expense of everyone
in the industry below them.

As for your comment on underperforming stations, do you really want me to go there? I look at business
opportunities everyday. Some in radio, more out of it. Why? Because this is not an industry that has positioned
itself for the future properly and why go down with the ship because of all the other screwed up companies?
And, one more thing about underperforming. Maybe because of bad management, they are underperformers, but as
long as the signal is above average, that's not an issue. Show me one underperformer that has to stay
an underperformer. Buying a looser at fire sale prices is dumb? Wow. Learned something new. It's better
to buy the current #1 station for 20 times the money of a #10 station? Are these stations assigned a
ranking for life and I missed something?

Finally, a dog by any other name is a dog, huh? What stations do you consider "dogs" here? I can't
wait for the next version of your All_American "insight."
 
Show off... seriously cool stuff, Courier

Did Dave Ramsey drill it into your head, too? It's the only way to fly.
Arbor Mist's* on me at The Longhorn! Then again, here's a fun trivia
question: If we can't use our hands to eat, since they are raised,
"who will feed us?"



* or similar beverage of your choice not to exceed $1.50 :)

Sarge will have a coupon.
 
Tibbs2 said:
You asked for a show of hands, raise your hand "BigA" if you think this is the right way to run a business?

I'm not in the judgement business. However, lots of people and companies clearly operate this way. There's over $2.5 TRILLION of credit card debt right now.

Hey, my card is paid off. I just have one credit card. Throw the others away.

But I'm not typical.

Tibbs2 said:
I can't wait for the next version of your All_American "insight."

I'm just making observations. They tell me that's what these boards are for. No?
 
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