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ZV said:Slurp said:Once again, I'm just a listener.
Maybe if you say that a few more times, someone will believe you. I'm not sold.
Sorry for the typo on the name, Squirt - I mean Slurp.
Eh, call me whatever. Squirt. Slurp. Squeak.
As for whether you believe me or not, that's your choice.
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No one disputes WIBC's news gathering capability. But can't I go to the Indy Star at any time and read a more in depth story as opposed to waiting for someone to read it.
Look at WIBC's content... Unless you work for WIBC, can you honestly say that you'd prefer to listen to WFYI, WWFT, or WXNT over WIBC? They have these amazing resources in the news room, and an incredible gift in their advertising through the Pacers and the Colts now. But content wise, they just fall completely flat. They dumped O'Reilly for Mark Levin? What a horrible move. Hannity is terrible, and Miller is new, and if they had an Abdul or a decent Sat show over Dave the King, they would be #1 in the market. Pidge and Terry are great pople, but their show is just so light. And Garrison is decent, but he too wastes the opportunity to maximize WIBC's resources. They have local hosts, but no host, except for Steve Simpson, who deals with local issues like Abdul or Amos. I just think their hosts waste an enourmous amount of time on things that mean nothing.
Look at WIBC's content... Unless you work for WIBC, can you honestly say that you'd prefer to listen to WFYI, WWFT, or WXNT over WIBC? They have these amazing resources in the news room, and an incredible gift in their advertising through the Pacers and the Colts now. But content wise, they just fall completely flat. They dumped O'Reilly for Mark Levin? What a horrible move. Hannity is terrible, and Miller is new, and if they had an Abdul or a decent Sat show over Dave the King, they would be #1 in the market. Pidge and Terry are great pople, but their show is just so light. And Garrison is decent, but he too wastes the opportunity to maximize WIBC's resources. They have local hosts, but no host, except for Steve Simpson, who deals with local issues like Abdul or Amos. I just think their hosts waste an enourmous amount of time on things that mean nothing.
TalkRadioGeek said:Unless you work for WIBC,
I think you may have it all figured out there.
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TalkRadioGeek said:No one disputes WIBC's news gathering capability. But can't I go to the Indy Star at any time and read a more in depth story as opposed to waiting for someone to read it.
Look at WIBC's content... Unless you work for WIBC, can you honestly say that you'd prefer to listen to WFYI, WWFT, or WXNT over WIBC? They have these amazing resources in the news room, and an incredible gift in their advertising through the Pacers and the Colts now. But content wise, they just fall completely flat. They dumped O'Reilly for Mark Levin? What a horrible move. Hannity is terrible, and Miller is new, and if they had an Abdul or a decent Sat show over Dave the King, they would be #1 in the market. Pidge and Terry are great pople, but their show is just so light. And Garrison is decent, but he too wastes the opportunity to maximize WIBC's resources. They have local hosts, but no host, except for Steve Simpson, who deals with local issues like Abdul or Amos. I just think their hosts waste an enourmous amount of time on things that mean nothing.
Who is Mark Levin? What time is he on? Is he bad or something?
I find Garrison unlistenable. His voice alone is enough to make me flip the dial, let alone the content. He says the same things and has the same guests on all the time. One of the many things Abdul has that Garrison does not is variety. Plus, Abdul's voice doesn't sound like nails on a chalk board and he doesn't say the same thing over and over and over.
As I said, I listen to WIBC, WXNT, and WFYI on occasion.
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Mark Levin is a New York talker. I refer to him as Hannity minus the intelligence.
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TalkRadioGeek said:Mark Levin is a New York talker. I refer to him as Hannity minus the intelligence.
He's on WIBC? Is he on at night or something?
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He's on whenever the "legendary" News/Talk station isn't airing a Pacer Game, Racing Program, or Colts Game. They should just get it over with and flip to a full time sports station. Look out WNDE. Then ESPN can go to WNDE, and 950 can go back to a religious station. Then the news staff can be divided up between XNT and WFT, so we can have two awesome newstalk stations in the town.
TalkRadioGeek said:They have local hosts, but no host, except for Steve Simpson, who deals with local issues like Abdul or Amos. I just think their hosts waste an enourmous amount of time on things that mean nothing.
I've stated this a few times - I heard simpson do an "extreme weather" type of fill in one night during a storm, and took calls from locals about the storm, etc., which wasn't ground breaking by any means, but his ease of conversation seemed comfortable - I think HE should have Wilson's spot in the PM Drive - shake it up a little!
TalkRadioGeek said:Mark Levin is a New York talker. I refer to him as Hannity minus the intelligence.
T.R.G. - You get the "I'm at least observant" award. I CAN'T believe that guy was actully hired to modulate the legendary 770 transmitter at WABC. "Jim from Schenecady-Troy... GO!" It's "Hannity Lite" - minus the bulb. "Ab" makes a good stab mornings at 1430 - I have enjoyed his show and demeanor when I can hear it. Indy has turned into TWO towns - one south of 96th street... and the other - In Greg Garrison's fantasy-land... I guess he's just "playing" to those who run up their credit cards to make mortgage payments and abuse Marsh employees on shopping nite for the privilige of living in that "walled-community" called Hamilton County.
A local talk station says SOOOO MUCH about a local community!
"...and if they had an Abdul or a decent Sat show over Dave the King, they would be #1 in the market. Pidge and Terry are great pople, but their show is just so light. And Garrison is decent, but he too wastes the opportunity to maximize WIBC's resources. They have local hosts, but no host, except for Steve Simpson, who deals with local issues like Abdul or Amos. I just think their hosts waste an enourmous amount of time on things that mean nothing."
In reading some of the posts on WIBC I find that there are some who just don't get it. WIBC wants people to wake up and drive home to information and entertainment. Pidge and especially Terry are like old friends talking about home life, how things don't always go well but we can always bounce back. Big John lets you know, as he has for decades, whether or not you'll hit a traffic jam.. The new sports guy gives the scores. Dave "the King" Wilson is a comedian who developed a following on local and regional stages as well as on Bob and Tom before being tabbed to host afternoons. Dave's job is to hang out with his friends Big Joe and Matt and find the funny side of life which many riding home can relate to. The issues are discussed for six hours every mid day and afternoon by Garrison and Rush as well as "in depth" news coverage during the noon news. I would suggest if you don't appreciate what WIBC does, then maybe you aren't in their target audience and should go ahead and listen to WFYI or WXNT or another talk outlet. Not all talk on talk radio is meant to be political or thought provoking. Sometimes it's just there to help put a smile on your face and have a better day.
In reading some of the posts on WIBC I find that there are some who just don't get it. WIBC wants people to wake up and drive home to information and entertainment. Pidge and especially Terry are like old friends talking about home life, how things don't always go well but we can always bounce back. Big John lets you know, as he has for decades, whether or not you'll hit a traffic jam.. The new sports guy gives the scores. Dave "the King" Wilson is a comedian who developed a following on local and regional stages as well as on Bob and Tom before being tabbed to host afternoons. Dave's job is to hang out with his friends Big Joe and Matt and find the funny side of life which many riding home can relate to. The issues are discussed for six hours every mid day and afternoon by Garrison and Rush as well as "in depth" news coverage during the noon news. I would suggest if you don't appreciate what WIBC does, then maybe you aren't in their target audience and should go ahead and listen to WFYI or WXNT or another talk outlet. Not all talk on talk radio is meant to be political or thought provoking. Sometimes it's just there to help put a smile on your face and have a better day.
Not all talk on talk radio is meant to be political or thought provoking.
Which is why WIBC's audience is all 55+ and dying.
I've never said they don't do what they do well. I've just said that what they do, well, kinda sucks and isn't very entertaining, or, to use your words, thought-provoking. It's tired and boring.
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"In reading some of the posts on WIBC I find that there are some who just don't get it. Not all talk on talk radio is meant to be political or thought provoking. Sometimes it's just there to help put a smile on your face and have a better day.
53% of their audience is over 65! In that target, maybe they are effective, putting the smile on people's face.
But I wouldn't say that's a smart investment. Why waste time and a brilliant news staff and a killer signal and advertisement by being the flagship station of the biggest race in the world, the super bowl champs, and the most nutorious NBA team.
The majority of Talk Radio audiences want to be laughing while thinking. That's why Rush is successful. He is entertaining AND thought provoking. The rest of the station is neither thought provoking or entertaining. You, 10 4, do not get talk radio, if you think WIBC is valuable to a listener in any way other then their weather and news team.
If you aren't going to make me think, then you better be edgy or have a good sense of humor. Look at "hot talk." The reason Howard Stern, Don & Mike, Bubba the Love Sponge, etc.. work is because the hosts could be stand-ups, brilliant entertainers. They surround themselves with the same personalities. They sit around and BS about things that people care about. They use their minds, and not some crappy prep service, or just plug the latest book that came through their email box.
You can't rely on an audience that is going to be largely dead in 10 years. A heritage station can rely on its heritage only so long... You have to bring new listeners into the brand.
At the end of the day, are we SERVING the audience in the best way possible.
53% of their audience is over 65! In that target, maybe they are effective, putting the smile on people's face.
But I wouldn't say that's a smart investment. Why waste time and a brilliant news staff and a killer signal and advertisement by being the flagship station of the biggest race in the world, the super bowl champs, and the most nutorious NBA team.
The majority of Talk Radio audiences want to be laughing while thinking. That's why Rush is successful. He is entertaining AND thought provoking. The rest of the station is neither thought provoking or entertaining. You, 10 4, do not get talk radio, if you think WIBC is valuable to a listener in any way other then their weather and news team.
If you aren't going to make me think, then you better be edgy or have a good sense of humor. Look at "hot talk." The reason Howard Stern, Don & Mike, Bubba the Love Sponge, etc.. work is because the hosts could be stand-ups, brilliant entertainers. They surround themselves with the same personalities. They sit around and BS about things that people care about. They use their minds, and not some crappy prep service, or just plug the latest book that came through their email box.
You can't rely on an audience that is going to be largely dead in 10 years. A heritage station can rely on its heritage only so long... You have to bring new listeners into the brand.
At the end of the day, are we SERVING the audience in the best way possible.
T.R.G. – again a great post! But how do you break out of the “them against me” paradigm that seems to dominate Talk Radio. It IS 50-plus, folks like my very decent and lovable parents (who now listen to Christian WFCJ on their morning wake up) are an example.
I suspect that Jeff had his “happiest moment” years ago when he had the opportunity to acquire “The Voice of Indiana” at 1070. That really is an awesome fet. – one all of us here on this simple board could not appreciate in person.
WIBC is an EXELLANT radio station – but one that is forced to face the “economic realities” that seem pesky at times. THANKS for giving Simpson his credit. “Pidge” is the awesome “hometown host”, but I enjoy “Ab” more – ‘call it the “cutting edge”.
Actually, Indy is blessed by TWO AMs that seem to offer a good talk schedule. WXNT probably suffers from a lack of “corporate resolve” – that frequency has always been a “bastard” in your city. The Dickey Brothers attempt on the deposed “all-80s” and CCM 93.9 is an obvious “throw in” and is engineered for shameless self-promotion only. “The Cloud” in the news-talk biz is laughable at best – ask me how they surrendered a fine 5kw night signal at 630 in Savannah for 47-watts (and drive-time during certain Daylight-Savings times months) IS TELLING!
I just hope “Ab” gets some decent ratings – he deserves them!
I suspect that Jeff had his “happiest moment” years ago when he had the opportunity to acquire “The Voice of Indiana” at 1070. That really is an awesome fet. – one all of us here on this simple board could not appreciate in person.
WIBC is an EXELLANT radio station – but one that is forced to face the “economic realities” that seem pesky at times. THANKS for giving Simpson his credit. “Pidge” is the awesome “hometown host”, but I enjoy “Ab” more – ‘call it the “cutting edge”.
Actually, Indy is blessed by TWO AMs that seem to offer a good talk schedule. WXNT probably suffers from a lack of “corporate resolve” – that frequency has always been a “bastard” in your city. The Dickey Brothers attempt on the deposed “all-80s” and CCM 93.9 is an obvious “throw in” and is engineered for shameless self-promotion only. “The Cloud” in the news-talk biz is laughable at best – ask me how they surrendered a fine 5kw night signal at 630 in Savannah for 47-watts (and drive-time during certain Daylight-Savings times months) IS TELLING!
I just hope “Ab” gets some decent ratings – he deserves them!
Hippo, I'd love to hear about the Savannah station. However, according to the FCC and Radio-Locator show a 5kw DA-N on 630 in Savannah. There's no record of any 47 watt station there. In fact that station is WBMQ and is a news/talk format that came in at #13 in the Fall '06 book. The CC N/T station was #12, ahead by 0.6.
Can you fill us in?
Can you fill us in?
Oops! You're right about the nighttime on the FCC site. Why is there a difference between the FCC and Radio-Locator? I thought they used FCC info.
How long has that station been 47 watts and what was the reason? How can they continue to keep pace with WTKS if the signal is bad?
Please, again, fill us in.
How long has that station been 47 watts and what was the reason? How can they continue to keep pace with WTKS if the signal is bad?
Please, again, fill us in.
I have only been in Indy for a few years so pardon my ignorance if this question seems stupid. What is Greg Garrison's background? I know he was an attorney. But was he just well known conservative circles or did he hold an office? Just wondering how he got his own show?
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Garrison gained local prominence when he was hired as the special prosecutor in the Mike Tyson case. He won. This caused him to gain some national prominence as a legal analyst for CBS on the OJ trial.
TalkRadioGeek said:53% of their audience is over 65! In that target, maybe they are effective, putting the smile on people's face.
But I wouldn't say that's a smart investment. Why waste time and a brilliant news staff and a killer signal and advertisement by being the flagship station of the biggest race in the world, the super bowl champs, and the most nutorious NBA team.
Sorry, but this shows either your inexperience in radio, or young age - either way - that's a ridiculous statement.
Most adults do not enter their prime income earning years until they hit their 40s and 50s (to spend on sponsors), and are more likely to NOT listen to music - that IS your target audience if you are talk!
Dead in 10 years??? The largest group of adults is just now entering their 50s - maybe you've heard of the baby-boom generation - again the LARGEST age group in this country. And the average life expectency is in the mid-70s - are you telling me you'd make decisions in radio TODAY based on 30 years down the road, or in the case of the 65-year-olds - 10 years?
Not that WIBC is doing it the "right way," but talk radio was not meant for the Howard Stern trash talk generation.
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