Johnnyrockin said:
No surprise there.... so many stations seem like they couldn't care less about their automation, as long as the money comes in.
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No surprise there.... so many stations seem like they couldn't care less about their automation, as long as the money comes in.
Johnnyrockin said:
Hmm. I wonder if they're using the same automation that KGO does.
(NOTE: This post is not meant as a knock against KGO.)
BossRadioDJ said:
It's possible, but KDOW could be in a closet and no one cares about it!
radioguybroadcasting said:
Judging from the field strength and direction here in Newark, I'd say it's still in East Palo Alto. With the current state of AM I suspect it's not happening.
Dave B.
theradiokid said:
Jeremy,
Until reading this message, I was not aware of your need to use talking software to post here. This certainly explains some of the errors I've seen in your postings on other forums. I think I've posted some rather harsh responses to those messages, and I apologize for doing that.
Thank you for displaying such a strong interest and passion for radio!
Re: Business stations in the Bay Area
I believe the sequence of events went like this: 1) Because of the usual NIMBY objections, it was proving impossible to obtain the necessary local building permits to construct the new DA. The same site had originally been proposed as the new site for a different Bay Area AM. (Sorry, I can't remember which one.) 2) Salem threw in the towel, installed the business talk format on 1220, and applied for and was granted the KDOW calls. 3) Radio stocks, including Salem's, tanked because of the global financial collapse.
So I don't think it is quite correct to call the 1220 upgrade a casualty of the current sorry state of radio companies--although, heaven knows, that situation can't be helping!
In any event, here in the Boston area, we also have two financial-talk AMs. One has a decent daytime signal and a passable but less-than-full-market night signal. The other has a fair-to-poor daytime signal and a virtually useless night signal. Most of the programming on both of these stations is leased time and maybe 50% of that is not money/finance oriented. A big portion is paid programming advertising various herbal nostrums. The combination of paid financial talk and paid "health" talk seems to work even though there is no reason for much crossover between the two audiences. Someone mentioned the long departed C-Net Radio as evidence that programming that targets corporate CEOs and CFOs can't work. Well, first off, business/financial talk doesn't really target CEOs and CFOs; it mainly targets individual investors. Secondly, C-Net Radio did not use a pay-to-play business model, and that makes a huge difference in whether these AM signals with minuscule audiences can make the format pay. If Boston is any example, more than half of the AM signals are staying alive with leased time, mostly in foreign languages. Aside from religion, business/health is the ONLY mix of English language programming that appears to be working in leased time. I have heard of a station (in Maine) that is doing it and using the positioner "Health and Wealth Radio." I don't know whether the slogan is trademarked but it would seem appropriate to collect royalties from other stations that idenfy themselves that way.
radioguybroadcasting said:
I believe the sequence of events went like this: 1) Because of the usual NIMBY objections, it was proving impossible to obtain the necessary local building permits to construct the new DA. The same site had originally been proposed as the new site for a different Bay Area AM. (Sorry, I can't remember which one.) 2) Salem threw in the towel, installed the business talk format on 1220, and applied for and was granted the KDOW calls. 3) Radio stocks, including Salem's, tanked because of the global financial collapse.
So I don't think it is quite correct to call the 1220 upgrade a casualty of the current sorry state of radio companies--although, heaven knows, that situation can't be helping!
In any event, here in the Boston area, we also have two financial-talk AMs. One has a decent daytime signal and a passable but less-than-full-market night signal. The other has a fair-to-poor daytime signal and a virtually useless night signal. Most of the programming on both of these stations is leased time and maybe 50% of that is not money/finance oriented. A big portion is paid programming advertising various herbal nostrums. The combination of paid financial talk and paid "health" talk seems to work even though there is no reason for much crossover between the two audiences. Someone mentioned the long departed C-Net Radio as evidence that programming that targets corporate CEOs and CFOs can't work. Well, first off, business/financial talk doesn't really target CEOs and CFOs; it mainly targets individual investors. Secondly, C-Net Radio did not use a pay-to-play business model, and that makes a huge difference in whether these AM signals with minuscule audiences can make the format pay. If Boston is any example, more than half of the AM signals are staying alive with leased time, mostly in foreign languages. Aside from religion, business/health is the ONLY mix of English language programming that appears to be working in leased time. I have heard of a station (in Maine) that is doing it and using the positioner "Health and Wealth Radio." I don't know whether the slogan is trademarked but it would seem appropriate to collect royalties from other stations that idenfy themselves that way.
Re: Business stations in the Bay Area
DanStrassberg said:
Sorry for the whole post quote. Are you kidding me???? You mean someone actually has a complaint about adding another 50KW broadcasting plant to an area that already has two others? (KFAX and KTCT.) I am a licensed amateur radio operator (Ham) and the major concerns for RF exposure are in the VHF and UHF frequency spectrum -- this according to the FCC. The major concern is the 2-meter amateur band and frequencies in that part of the spectrum, the reasoning being that human bodies are "resonant" in that wavelength (approximately 144 MHz) and in the 70 cm amateur band where a human's head is resonant. I know that sounds a bit flakey, but it's based on sensible science. The AM band is of almost no concern from a regulatory standpoint. So either the people objecting to the planned upgrade are using bad science, or the person making that post are using a specious argument. Please site your sources. My guess is that Salem is having a hard time financially.
Johnnyrockin said:
My guess is not that Salem is having a hard time financially, but they couldn't justify the cost of upgrading.. the ROI wouldn't be enough.
Re: Business stations in the Bay Area
I applaud the NIMBYs. I have no desire to have the Bay Area airwaves polluted by yet another Jesuscaster masquerading as something else. It's bad enough that the Jesuscasters have commercial licenses, but they've also invaded the non-commercial FM set-asides originally intended for educational broadcasting (88-92MHz) to the point where in many communities it's hard to hear a distant NPR affiliate, but 3 Jesuscasters come in just fine.
As to whether 1220 gets to be 50kw or not, it's hard to feel any sorrow for Salem and their repressive rightwing political agenda.
DanStrassberg said:
I applaud the NIMBYs. I have no desire to have the Bay Area airwaves polluted by yet another Jesuscaster masquerading as something else. It's bad enough that the Jesuscasters have commercial licenses, but they've also invaded the non-commercial FM set-asides originally intended for educational broadcasting (88-92MHz) to the point where in many communities it's hard to hear a distant NPR affiliate, but 3 Jesuscasters come in just fine.
As to whether 1220 gets to be 50kw or not, it's hard to feel any sorrow for Salem and their repressive rightwing political agenda.
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