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Bye Bye Global Toronto Master Control!

Y

Yeziknoradio

Master control in Toronto will be eliminated by Aug. 31st 2006 at Global Toronto.
Master Control for Global Ontario, Quebec, Maritimes, CH Hamilton, CH Montreal, and Global HD will ALL be operated out of Calgary as of that date.

30 full time jobs and 10 contract jobs are what's expected to be cut as a result of this move. (There may be more cuts, but I'm not sure at this time.)

Global's specialty channels (Prime, Xtreme Sports, Deja view, Lone Star, and Men TV) will continue to operate, business as usual, out of the Winnipeg building.





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"If you never say NO, How much is your YES worth?"
</P>
 
Re:Speaking of Global Ontario and Quebec

SHould Global Ontario break up into more local base than province based, like Global Toronto, Global Paris/Kitchener/Waterloo, Global Ottawa, Global Montreal, Global Quebec City, Global SHerbooke, Global Mid-Canada/North Ontario?
At least they should break up for OTtawa coverage, the 4th largest metropolitan area in the country.
 
Re:Speaking of Global Ontario and Quebec

> SHould Global Ontario break up into more local base than
> province based, like Global Toronto, Global
> Paris/Kitchener/Waterloo, Global Ottawa, Global Montreal,
> Global Quebec City, Global SHerbooke, Global
> Mid-Canada/North Ontario?
> At least they should break up for OTtawa coverage, the 4th
> largest metropolitan area in the country.
>

They should! I always believed Global should start providing local news for Ottawa and SW Ontario ie) an actual news operation, not some bureau in those cities.
 
Re:Speaking of Global Ontario and Quebec

> SHould Global Ontario break up into more local base than
> province based, like Global Toronto, Global
> Paris/Kitchener/Waterloo, Global Ottawa, Global Montreal,
> Global Quebec City, Global SHerbooke, Global
> Mid-Canada/North Ontario?
> At least they should break up for OTtawa coverage, the 4th
> largest metropolitan area in the country.
----------
Unquestionably, definitely. Global should use existing transmitters and run the following local stations:

Global Toronto
Toronto - Ch. 41
Midland - Ch. 7

Global Kitchener-London
Paris - Ch. 6
Owen Sound - Ch. 4
Oil Springs - Ch. 29

Global Windsor
Stevenson - Ch. 22

Global Peterborough
Peterborough - Ch. 27
Bancroft - Ch. 2

Global Northern Ontario
Sudbury - Ch. 11
North Bay - Ch. 2
Timmins - Ch. 13
Sault Ste. Marie - Ch. 12

As for Quebec, CKMI should be licensed in Montreal. CFCF should not be the only English station based there that can solicit local advertising dollars.<P ID="signature">______________
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Re:Speaking of Global Ontario and Quebec

> They should! I always believed Global should start providing
> local news for Ottawa and SW Ontario ie) an actual news
> operation, not some bureau in those cities.
>

I believe 5:30 local news should be restored IN Toronto and Ottawa.
I DO like the idea of visiting Ottawa and getting Toronto's news at 5:30,

However, respectfully, it SHOULD be more important that Ottawa have their own local 5:30 news cast.
wouldn't that be to costly to run though? Isn't it cheaper to just leave the Toronto newscast running in Ottawa?<P ID="signature">______________
"If you never say NO, How much is your YES worth?"
</P>
 
Re:Speaking of Global Ontario and Quebec

Well, they have those 30 people who just got layed off from their jobs... why not retrain them to produce newscasts in Ottawa, should they be willing to relocate?

> > They should! I always believed Global should start
> providing
> > local news for Ottawa and SW Ontario ie) an actual news
> > operation, not some bureau in those cities.
> >
>
> I believe 5:30 local news should be restored IN Toronto and
> Ottawa.
> I DO like the idea of visiting Ottawa and getting Toronto's
> news at 5:30,
>
> However, respectfully, it SHOULD be more important that
> Ottawa have their own local 5:30 news cast.
> wouldn't that be to costly to run though? Isn't it cheaper
> to just leave the Toronto newscast running in Ottawa?
>
 
Re:Speaking of Global Ontario and Quebec

> Well, they have those 30 people who just got layed off from
> their jobs... why not retrain them to produce newscasts in
> Ottawa, should they be willing to relocate?

I think the idea is to do things cheaper, and keep it that way. Sad, really.
They could have snatched up a good chunk of CTV's viewership...30 minutes sooner.<P ID="signature">______________
"If you never say NO, How much is your YES worth?"
</P>
 
Re:Speaking of Global Ontario and Quebec

> I think the idea is to do things cheaper, and keep it that
> way. Sad, really.
> They could have snatched up a good chunk of CTV's
> viewership...30 minutes sooner.
----------
The unfortunate thing is that CTV has stated previously that the model of one newscast for the entire province based in the Toronto-Hamilton area used by Global and CHCH is what CTV wants to achieve in the long run. Global will probably remain cheap and keep a single newscast in Ontario, and CTV already started centralization in 2001 with consolidating MCTV in Sudbury. Consolidating all of CTV Ontario at CFTO can't be far off. The CBC almost did it in the 90s, but they would've consolidated at CBOT, not CBLT.<P ID="signature">______________
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Re:Speaking of Global Ontario and Quebec

> The CBC almost [consolidated in Ontario] in the 90s, but
> they would've consolidated at CBOT, not CBLT.
>

In the way, they did just that on Ontario's Radio-Canada stations -- in the late-1980s, SRC's stations in Ottawa, Toronto and Windsor consolidated into the new provincewide "Ontario-Outouais" network from CBOFT in Ottawa, carrying identical programming, except for news (CBOFT's newscasts were separate from CBLFT's in Toronto) and local ads, plus baseball blackouts, when they carried the Expos.

CBC did consolidate briefly in Alberta in the 1990s when they had a single provincewide newscast from Calgary to replace news operations in Calgary and Edmonton -- didn't work. Within a couple of years, both were separate again.
 
Re:Speaking of Global Ontario and Quebec

> Consolidating all of CTV Ontario at CFTO
> can't be far off.


I don't know... the local newscasts on CTV Ottawa still bring in some very respectable revenue, and at a relatively controlled cost. The cost savings would not make up for the lost revenue.

In fact, there's room for Global to make money at the local TV game in Ottawa too. CTV is getting away with ratings murder, CHRO is weak, and CBC has a bit of a glass ceiling on its audience. If it wasn't for the huge startup costs, Global could be making money at local news in Ottawa in short order.
 
Re:Speaking of Global Ontario and Quebec

> CBC did consolidate briefly in Alberta in the 1990s when
> they had a single provincewide newscast from Calgary to
> replace news operations in Calgary and Edmonton -- didn't
> work. Within a couple of years, both were separate again.
----------
And the CBC has never recovered out there. They took Calgary's No. 1 newscast on CBRT/9 and converted it to a provincial newscast, and soon they were beat by both CFCN/4 and CFAC/2. To this day CBRT has very low ratings there.

Did some CBRT personalities move over to CFCN or CFAC (CICT)?<P ID="signature">______________
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Re:Speaking of Global Ontario and Quebec

> > Consolidating all of CTV Ontario at CFTO
> > can't be far off.
>
>
> I don't know... the local newscasts on CTV Ottawa still
> bring in some very respectable revenue, and at a relatively
> controlled cost. The cost savings would not make up for the
> lost revenue.
-----------
CTV isn't exactly interested in local programming though. They have proven themselves in the past to cancel high-rated local programmes, including on CJOH. They are willing to sacrifice a large amount of advertising revenues to achieve their goal of a uniform schedule across the country. That was always the Bassett dream, and I know there is movement from within CTV to consolidate local newscasts to Toronto. Read "CTV: The Televison Wars" - one of the executives expresses the dream of having CTV in Ontario run like Global and CHCH.

And I can't see Global starting a local operation in Ottawa anytime soon. The news director at CIII told me that the financial resources simply do not exist for them to add more news operations in Ontario at this time.

Maybe they should sell off one of their stations in Alberta.<P ID="signature">______________
From WNBC-TV New York this is Liiiiive at Fiiiiive!</P><P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by mjlarochelle on 03/07/06 04:40 AM.</FONT></P>
 
Re:Speaking of Global Ontario and Quebec

That newscast was actually out of Edmonton.

And because of that, the Calgary ratings plummeted to almost zero. Someone made a comment that the CBC could have passed out flyers in Downtown Calgary, and that would have had a bigger audience than the provincial newscast that came out of Edmonton.


> > CBC did consolidate briefly in Alberta in the 1990s when
> > they had a single provincewide newscast from Calgary to
> > replace news operations in Calgary and Edmonton -- didn't
> > work. Within a couple of years, both were separate again.
> ----------
> And the CBC has never recovered out there. They took
> Calgary's No. 1 newscast on CBRT/9 and converted it to a
> provincial newscast, and soon they were beat by both CFCN/4
> and CFAC/2. To this day CBRT has very low ratings there.
>
> Did some CBRT personalities move over to CFCN or CFAC
> (CICT)?
>
 
Re:Speaking of Global Ontario and Quebec

If CTV did shut down the Ottawa, Kitchener, and Sudbury newsrooms and make a single provincial newscast, immediately there would be a market out there - if not, a vacuum - for another local news outlet in those regions. I know most of us slag Global on this board, but I hope they're not that stupid to overlook such an opportunity to move into those places.

And I'm referring to a quote that the ND at Global in Toronto mentioned about not having the resources AT THIS TIME... does that mean they have been looking at it at some time?

> -----------
> CTV isn't exactly interested in local programming though.
> They have proven themselves in the past to cancel high-rated
> local programmes, including on CJOH. They are willing to
> sacrifice a large amount of advertising revenues to achieve
> their goal of a uniform schedule across the country. That
> was always the Bassett dream, and I know there is movement
> from within CTV to consolidate local newscasts to Toronto.
> Read "CTV: The Televison Wars" - one of the executives
> expresses the dream of having CTV in Ontario run like Global
> and CHCH.
>
> And I can't see Global starting a local operation in Ottawa
> anytime soon. The news director at CIII told me that the
> financial resources simply do not exist for them to add more
> news operations in Ontario at this time.
>
> Maybe they should sell off one of their stations in Alberta.
>
 
Re:Speaking of Global Ontario and Quebec

> > And I can't see Global starting a local operation in
> Ottawa
> > anytime soon. The news director at CIII told me that the
> > financial resources simply do not exist for them to add
> more
> > news operations in Ontario at this time.
> >
> > Maybe they should sell off one of their stations in
> Alberta.
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A reliable source at Global Toronto refrained from a simple yes or no answer.
News coverage for Ottawa remains a maybee, but with "Skeleton staff"

The exact quote was "Well, if it does come about, it'll be on a skeleton staff"<P ID="signature">______________
"If you never say NO, How much is your YES worth?"
</P><P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by YeziKnoradio on 03/07/06 09:12 AM.</FONT></P>
 
Re:Speaking of Global Ontario and Quebec

> That newscast was actually out of Edmonton.
>
> And because of that, the Calgary ratings plummeted to almost
> zero. Someone made a comment that the CBC could have passed
> out flyers in Downtown Calgary, and that would have had a
> bigger audience than the provincial newscast that came out
> of Edmonton.

I thought it was a half-and-half, with one anchor in Calgary and the other in Edmonton? I remember seeing a video clip of it. Or was that a separate experiment from another time?<P ID="signature">______________
Derek
<a target="_blank" href=http://www.tvvancouver.cjb.net>TV.Vancouver</a>: Covering TV stations in Vancouver, BC</P>
 
Re:Speaking of Global Ontario and Quebec

From what I was told, at first it came completely from Edmonton... then afterwards the decision to split the screen between CAlgary and Edmonton happened.

> > That newscast was actually out of Edmonton.
> >
> > And because of that, the Calgary ratings plummeted to
> almost
> > zero. Someone made a comment that the CBC could have
> passed
> > out flyers in Downtown Calgary, and that would have had a
> > bigger audience than the provincial newscast that came out
>
> > of Edmonton.
>
> I thought it was a half-and-half, with one anchor in Calgary
> and the other in Edmonton? I remember seeing a video clip of
> it. Or was that a separate experiment from another time?
>
 
Re:Speaking of Global Ontario and Quebec

> From what I was told, at first it came completely from
> Edmonton... then afterwards the decision to split the screen
> between CAlgary and Edmonton happened.
The weather anchor was based in Calgary and the Sports Reporter was in Edmonton when the show was split up.

After Calgary and Edmonton got their own local newscasts back (with each only being 30 minutes long), a magazine-type news show was aired at 6:30pm called the CBC Alberta Magazine.

And on Saturday nights after HNIC, "CBC Alberta News" would air out of Edmonton.

>
> > > That newscast was actually out of Edmonton.
> > >
> > > And because of that, the Calgary ratings plummeted to
> > almost
> > > zero. Someone made a comment that the CBC could have
> > passed
> > > out flyers in Downtown Calgary, and that would have had
> a
> > > bigger audience than the provincial newscast that came
> out
> >
> > > of Edmonton.
> >
> > I thought it was a half-and-half, with one anchor in
> Calgary
> > and the other in Edmonton? I remember seeing a video clip
> of
> > it. Or was that a separate experiment from another time?
> >
> <P ID="signature">______________

Canada TV and College Radio</P>
 
Re:Speaking of Global Ontario and Quebec

> If CTV did shut down the Ottawa, Kitchener, and Sudbury
> newsrooms and make a single provincial newscast, immediately
> there would be a market out there - if not, a vacuum - for
> another local news outlet in those regions. I know most of
> us slag Global on this board, but I hope they're not that
> stupid to overlook such an opportunity to move into those
> places.
---------
There would be a market for such newscasts, but we all know what the CRTC will do. Just like what happened to TV Niagara.

> And I'm referring to a quote that the ND at Global in
> Toronto mentioned about not having the resources AT THIS
> TIME... does that mean they have been looking at it at some
> time?
---------
I have heard second-hand that the possibility was explored as early as the 70s.<P ID="signature">______________
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A Question About Global Ontario

Isn't Global in Ontario restricted by the CRTC to showing the same programming and same commercials on owned stations across the entire province and that individual Global-owned stations in that province cannot break away from the "regional" feed for local programming (news or otherwise) and commercials??

One other comment: If my memory serves me correct, three-fourths of Ontario's population (and one fourth of Canada's total population) lives within a 75-mile (120-kilometer) radius of the CN Tower. Thus, if Global Ontario is restricted to showing the same programming and commercials province-wide, it would make the best business sense for them to be Toronto-centric, for that's where three-fourths of their viewers are.
 
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