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Call Letters Pronounced Like a Word (but not a word)

cd637299 said:
crainbebo said:
Has KOTA 3 been mentioned yet? Also, was KARD 14 in El Dorado, AR area ever pronounced as "Kard"-like Card?

-crainbebo

I don't know, but "KARD" was once the home of ch 3 in Wichita. There is a video online of a rare 1950s color videotape NBC special opening, beginning with the KARD-TV ID (as K-A-R-D), with some "face cards" (like in a deck of cards) on screen.

cd

Here it the opening sequence for the video, which was a Fred Astaire special: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oivx0aJJmC8

The opening KARD shot looks recerated to me instead of being from the original video.
 
^ Ya know, you could be right about a re-creation. Too sharp an image to be actual video. Yes that was the one----Fred Astaire.

cd
 
anotherguy said:
WDXI in Jackson, TN still calls themselves Dixie 1310.
WDXI, and other stations having the WDX_ call letters in middle and west Tennessee and northern Mississippi, were once part of the Dixie Network of stations. WENK in Union City was also once part of the Dixie Network, despite not having the WDX_ call sign. Keeping it relevant to this thread, WENK never really went with the phonetic pronunciation of their call letters ("wink") while I was growing up there, only reverting to being "wink" in more recent years. Not sure if they still do that or not.
 
KYUS-TV (Channel 3, Miles City, Montana), "Cay-use" was the nick-name for the station. The smallest NBC affiliate in the nation back in the 70's. It had one minimum service color camera, one videotape machine and a very cranky VHF transmitter. I actually saw a videotape of this station from e-skip (thanks to Tom Bryant). It didn't have a Time Base Corrector and you could see that during that e-skip opening. Talk about low budget.......... ;)
 
The Bay Area used to have independent KEMO ("chemo") TV 20, which always made me think about chemotherapy. Come to think of it, the station is now KOFY ("coffee") TV 20.

Local radio stations have included KLOK ("clock") and there was once a KRAK ("Crack"), though IIRC, it was before the crack (rock cocaine) epidemic of the 80s made the word unpalatable.
 
^ I remember when the calls of WACH were available.....I thought, wow what an opportunity! WAtCH-TV!

(BTW can a station have a -TV suffix despite no existing AM or FM with the call? Now that I ask, can an FM station have "-FM" in the calls of no existing AM or TV with the call?)

cd
 
EJM said:
Finally, even though the branding hasn't been used for a really long time, Chicago's WPWR did go by "Power". (The station is co-owned with WFLD--although I don't think that "Field [Communications]", which is what the "FLD" stands for, was ever part of the on-air branding.)

Actually, WPWR branded as "Power 50" during the transition from UPN to MyNetworkTV affiliation in 2006.
 
anotherguy said:
Here it the opening sequence for the video, which was a Fred Astaire special: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oivx0aJJmC8

The opening KARD shot looks recerated to me instead of being from the original video.

It must be a recreation. Listen to the audio on the Astaire special, it's 15 kHz. If it was
an actual aircheck recorded in Wichita, the network audio would have been 5 kHz.

Not to mention the "clean" transition from local station to network (no "roll").
 
cd637299 said:
^ I remember when the calls of WACH were available.....I thought, wow what an opportunity! WAtCH-TV!

(BTW can a station have a -TV suffix despite no existing AM or FM with the call? Now that I ask, can an FM station have "-FM" in the calls of no existing AM or TV with the call?)

cd

That was WACH 57 Columbia, SC. They called it 'Watch TV-The One to Watch!". Fox affiliate.

-crainbebo
 
EJM said:
Another "K-View" may be KVEW, the Tri-Cities semi-satellite of Yakima's KAPP. Staying within the Tri-Cities, KEPR (KIMA's semi-satellite) may be pronounced as "Keeper". (That said, I don't know if either KAPP or KIMA themselves pronounce their calls. The same goes for KIMA/KEPR's other semi-satellite, KLEW in Lewiston, Idaho.)
KIMA and KEPR brand as "K-I-M-A Keeper" (in years past KIMA was pronounced Keye-muh, not Kee-muh). KAPP/KVEW do both as words -- "Kapp K-View." The NBC stations in Yakima and the Tri-Cities, KNDO and KNDU, were the "Can-Do" stations when they first began.

If I had to guess, I'd bet Washington and Oregon have the greatest number of stations that identify themselves by phonetic call letters. I'm pretty sure Washington has the most radio stations still using three-letter calls.
 
oldiesfan6479 said:
anotherguy said:
Here it the opening sequence for the video, which was a Fred Astaire special: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oivx0aJJmC8

The opening KARD shot looks recerated to me instead of being from the original video.

It must be a recreation. Listen to the audio on the Astaire special, it's 15 kHz. If it was
an actual aircheck recorded in Wichita, the network audio would have been 5 kHz.

Not to mention the "clean" transition from local station to network (no "roll").

I believe it is a recreation, especially the station ID slide at the beginning, which featured lettering that looks a little too modern for the era.
 
crainbebo said:
They did on the C-Band broadcast. I think they called it "SEE CBS."

M.J. said:
Another station in Erie, WSEE/35, has a word in its call letters but I've never heard the station referred to that way.

-crainbebo

Come to think of it, when WSEE first had a website circa 1998, it was seecbs.com, and they pronounced it as "See CBS.com". I forgot about that until now.
 
cd637299 said:
(BTW can a station have a -TV suffix despite no existing AM or FM with the call? Now that I ask, can an FM station have "-FM" in the calls of no existing AM or TV with the call?)

Yes. I don't believe there has ever been a KNXV radio station since 1979, but the Phoenix ABC affiliate is KNXV-TV. More often, however, I think you would see stations with a -TV suffix and no common-call radio stations when a TV station had the same calls as a radio station, then the radio station changes its calls. (Ex. KPHO-TV Phoenix)
 
Lkeller said:
The Bay Area used to have independent KEMO ("chemo") TV 20, which always made me think about chemotherapy. Come to think of it, the station is now KOFY ("coffee") TV 20.

Local radio stations have included KLOK ("clock") and there was once a KRAK ("Crack"), though IIRC, it was before the crack (rock cocaine) epidemic of the 80s made the word unpalatable.

KRAK was a country station in Sacramento for years. Now it all-sports KHTK, which, since they are the Sacramento Kings' flagship, turns into "Home of The Kings."
 
And Yuma has KBLU...pronounced K-BLUE..originally TV and radio, now just used on the news-talk station.

The TV station (Ch 13) in the 70s changed calls to KYEL and later to KSWT
 
The late Ted Knight once did a great TV ad for WTAE radio in Pittsburgh.

"It's more than just a radio station, it's............ wi-TAY!"
 
crainbebo said:
cd637299 said:
^ I remember when the calls of WACH were available.....I thought, wow what an opportunity! WAtCH-TV!

(BTW can a station have a -TV suffix despite no existing AM or FM with the call? Now that I ask, can an FM station have "-FM" in the calls of no existing AM or TV with the call?)

cd

That was WACH 57 Columbia, SC. They called it 'Watch TV-The One to Watch!". Fox affiliate.

-crainbebo

And in the '90s, "Watch Fox 57."
 
azumanga said:
oldiesfan6479 said:
anotherguy said:
Here it the opening sequence for the video, which was a Fred Astaire special: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oivx0aJJmC8

The opening KARD shot looks recerated to me instead of being from the original video.

It must be a recreation. Listen to the audio on the Astaire special, it's 15 kHz. If it was
an actual aircheck recorded in Wichita, the network audio would have been 5 kHz.

Not to mention the "clean" transition from local station to network (no "roll").

I emailed the guy who put that video online on his KingOfTheRoad.net site about 8 or 9 years ago (yes it's been up that long) the KARD id slide was a recreation by him. He grew up in Wichita, so it was a bit of a tribute to his childhood. Not sure but I believe he's been a network video editor for quite some time. So he's had access to some old tape that escaped the bulk eraser (including The Edsel Show special from 1957)

Iowa entries: In Ottumwa, KLEE is pronounced just as it looks, and they'll use K-L-E-E and KLEE interchangeably. Crosstown rival KBIZ we'd refer to privately at KLEE as K - Biz, but KBIZ themselves never did on air. Down the road about 60 miles and over the line in Missouri, KTUF Kirksville also has alternated between K-T-U-F and K-Tuf (tough) most of its existence.

Back in Iowa, it's mighty hard not to refer to KIOA Des Moines as K - Ioway. In the mid 60s some airchecks feature the slogan "Kioway in Ioway" but that only lasted a couple of years. That other more famous Des Moines station WHO doesn't qualify here because it IS a word.
But there's a rather obscure station in Des Moines, KWKY that referred to itself in the late 50s into the 60s as "Quickie" although as a Catholic station these days it might be unseemly for KWKY to use that. "And now for an afternoon quickie... rosary" just wouldn't sound right. :eek:

I believe it is a recreation, especially the station ID slide at the beginning, which featured lettering that looks a little too modern for the era.
 
Tried to edit my earlier post because it had too many radio only stations, but was too late...sorry

Back in Iowa, it's mighty hard not to refer to KIOA Des Moines as K - Ioway. In the mid 60s some airchecks feature the slogan "Kioway in Ioway" but that only lasted a couple of years. That's a stretch to include them as a radio station, but they did at least apply for a TV license back in the early 50s. That other more famous Des Moines station WHO-TV doesn't qualify here because it IS a word. But TV never referred to themselves as "who" TV, always W-H-O TV.

In New Mexico, I've always marveled at Albuquerque's public TV station KNME. Kay-"enemy" conjures up a three-toe call that never will be, WTF! Those calls should have been shot down by their management before they were ever submitted back in 1958, but they must have needed an N-M-A (en-em-ay or is that uh) for they must have been full of... Some suggested on-air slogans: "Your Enemy of the State...of New Mexico, this is K-N-M-E." Or, "K-N-M-E, your Enemy of Education!" At least these days they refer to themselves as New Mexico PBS.
 
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