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Callsign request for 101.9... WEMP?

NERW posted it on Facebook an hour ago. In addition, Merlin also filed to change WKQX/Chicago's calls to WWWN (3WN? Hmm...).

If this is for real, we can safely discount "1019-NEW!" as a stunt to keep the transmitter warm. Also bad news for people who wanted to see the WYNY calls return, country or no country. (Also it turns out that WKXW/101.5 actually registered "NY1019.com" to protect WKXW's own "New Jersey 101.5" brand.)

WEMP: EMPire State Building. Nice.
 
If in fact the new call letters become WEMP, you should know that those are heritage calls associated from 1935-2004 with two AM stations in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. And like New York, the Milwaukee station's calls were related to a downtown building: Milwaukee's Empire Building, a 1927 building which is still standing. The original WEMP had its studios in the Empire Building. The building itself can't really compete with the Empire State Building (after all, it only has 13 floors), but it includes the historic Riverside Theater, a pretty nice venue, recently renovated, on its ground floor, and is located on the Milwaukee River.

And why am I interested in all this? Because I'm a native New Yorker who listened to WPIX-FM when I was much younger, but I now live and work (as a broadcaster) -- in Milwaukee!
 
Nathan Obral said:
NERW posted it on Facebook an hour ago. In addition, Merlin also filed to change WKQX/Chicago's calls to WWWN (3WN? Hmm...).

If this is for real, we can safely discount "1019-NEW!" as a stunt to keep the transmitter warm. Also bad news for people who wanted to see the WYNY calls return, country or no country. (Also it turns out that WKXW/101.5 actually registered "NY1019.com" to protect WKXW's own "New Jersey 101.5" brand.)

WEMP: EMPire State Building. Nice.

At least they're not WIMP and WUSS.........I can imagine them for a couple of co-owned 250 watt AM daytimers in Palookaville, but not for major FMs in Chicago and New York........
 
Bongwater said:
Nathan Obral said:
NERW posted it on Facebook an hour ago. In addition, Merlin also filed to change WKQX/Chicago's calls to WWWN (3WN? Hmm...).

If this is for real, we can safely discount "1019-NEW!" as a stunt to keep the transmitter warm. Also bad news for people who wanted to see the WYNY calls return, country or no country. (Also it turns out that WKXW/101.5 actually registered "NY1019.com" to protect WKXW's own "New Jersey 101.5" brand.)

WEMP: EMPire State Building. Nice.

At least they're not WIMP and WUSS.........I can imagine them for a couple of co-owned 250 watt AM daytimers in Palookaville, but not for major FMs in Chicago and New York........
WIMP was the calls given to WPLJ by Scott Shannon when he put Z100 on the air.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
Call letters are not as important these days, especially when a station doesn't use them (except in the TOH ID). There have been many cases where a station switched formats & nicknames but didn't bother to change the calls.
 
Nathan Obral said:
NERW posted it on Facebook an hour ago. In addition, Merlin also filed to change WKQX/Chicago's calls to WWWN (3WN? Hmm...).

If this is for real, we can safely discount "1019-NEW!" as a stunt to keep the transmitter warm. Also bad news for people who wanted to see the WYNY calls return, country or no country. (Also it turns out that WKXW/101.5 actually registered "NY1019.com" to protect WKXW's own "New Jersey 101.5" brand.)

WEMP: EMPire State Building. Nice.

WWWN? Weren't those calls once in Cleveland? WEMP was once used in Milwaukee. Just one comment about WEMP: EMPire State Building. I don't think the 101.9 studios will be located there!

Can't blame WKXW for registering "NY1019.com". There would be lots of confusion in WKXW's core listening areas in north and central NJ if you had New Jersey 101.5 and New York 101.9 as 2nd adjacents. :)
 
radioguy39nj said:
Nathan Obral said:
NERW posted it on Facebook an hour ago. In addition, Merlin also filed to change WKQX/Chicago's calls to WWWN (3WN? Hmm...).

If this is for real, we can safely discount "1019-NEW!" as a stunt to keep the transmitter warm. Also bad news for people who wanted to see the WYNY calls return, country or no country. (Also it turns out that WKXW/101.5 actually registered "NY1019.com" to protect WKXW's own "New Jersey 101.5" brand.)

WEMP: EMPire State Building. Nice.

WWWN? Weren't those calls once in Cleveland? WEMP was once used in Milwaukee.
Close. The WWWE (3WE) and WWWM (M105) calls were in Cleveland on what was the former WKYC-AM and WKYC-FM after both stations were sold off by NBC in 1972 (today they are WTAM and WMJI).

radioguy39nj said:
Just one comment about WEMP: EMPire State Building. I don't think the 101.9 studios will be located there!
WEMP's studios may not be in the Empire State Building, yes, but the transmitter is still there. ;)
 
Nathan Obral said:
radioguy39nj said:
Nathan Obral said:
NERW posted it on Facebook an hour ago. In addition, Merlin also filed to change WKQX/Chicago's calls to WWWN (3WN? Hmm...).

If this is for real, we can safely discount "1019-NEW!" as a stunt to keep the transmitter warm. Also bad news for people who wanted to see the WYNY calls return, country or no country. (Also it turns out that WKXW/101.5 actually registered "NY1019.com" to protect WKXW's own "New Jersey 101.5" brand.)

WEMP: EMPire State Building. Nice.

WWWN? Weren't those calls once in Cleveland? WEMP was once used in Milwaukee.
Close. The WWWE (3WE) and WWWM (M105) calls were in Cleveland on what was the former WKYC-AM and WKYC-FM after both stations were sold off by NBC in 1972 (today they are WTAM and WMJI).

radioguy39nj said:
Just one comment about WEMP: EMPire State Building. I don't think the 101.9 studios will be located there!
WEMP's studios may not be in the Empire State Building, yes, but the transmitter is still there. ;)

Where are the new/rxp studio's in the city?
 
I think I saw something in one of the posts that they are doing a build out of their present studio which is the Emmis facility that also houses Hot 97 (WQHT) and KISS FM (WRKS) at at 395 Hudson Street, at the meeting point of Manhattan's West Village and SoHo neighborhoods. Dosen't sound like they are moving to a new building.
 
I think I saw something in one of the posts that they are doing a build out of their present studio which is the Emmis facility that also houses Hot 97 (WQHT) and KISS FM (WRKS) at at 395 Hudson Street, at the meeting point of Manhattan's West Village and SoHo neighborhoods. Dosen't sound like they are moving to a new building.
 
Crappy call letters. WEMP? Looks like "WIMP". In the PPM world call letters are pretty much just an hourly formality. Why even bother. And what the hell is 101.9 "FM NEW" It sounds stupid and makes no sense. If this is stunting, only radio geeks care about stunting.
 
VeteranPD said:
Crappy call letters. WEMP? Looks like "WIMP". In the PPM world call letters are pretty much just an hourly formality. Why even bother. And what the hell is 101.9 "FM NEW" It sounds stupid and makes no sense. If this is stunting, only radio geeks care about stunting.

It's still better than, say, "101.9 HELL!" ;D
 
VeteranPD said:
Crappy call letters. WEMP? Looks like "WIMP". In the PPM world call letters are pretty much just an hourly formality. Why even bother. And what the hell is 101.9 "FM NEW" It sounds stupid and makes no sense. If this is stunting, only radio geeks care about stunting.

Totally agree. Waste, waste of airtime.
 
"Stunting" is done as an interim way keep the station on the air due to FCC regulations.

When the agreement is made, a date was set between the seller and buyer.

The new management may not be ready to implement the new format on that previously agreed upon date.

This could be due to legal issues found at the last minute imparing them from implementing the new format.

"Stunting" has since been found to be useful as a byproduct to add to the curiosity value for potential listeners.

Indeed, if those issues did not exist, the value of the station is too high, especially in Market #1, for such immature actions.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
They should Return CD101.9 as a Jazz Station again. It did well. you cannot say there is no listenership to Cover thats crazy.
I Tour and Mix many of the Big name Jazz artists.. I still do smaller shows in NYC. and all I hear is "WHEN WILL THERE BE A NEW SMOOTH JAZZ STATION IN THE NYC NJ METRO AREA".
As a broadcaster hearing this from the people who attend these concerts. Tells me we a jazz station other than WBGO. the so called consultants who say it wont work , have shoes plugging up their Arses
and are Full of SH*T.
We smooth jazz in NYC..
 
Smooth Jazz will return to the radio...probably never, or maybe on a smaller, suburban station. That particular format's demos are not as advertiser friendly as they were 20+ years ago. Plus you can't base whatever billing success there was of the smooth jazz format vis a vis the alternative/AAA/whatever it was rock format that followed. Also, in a market of 15+ million people (plus tourists/visitors to the area), there should be enough of an audience for just about any type of musical performance. Just because venues are packed doesn't mean there's a format that can be built around it.

Think of it this way with a (somewhat outrageous) example: Broadway shows, I'd think we'd all agree, are quite popular. Packed houses daily for the most popular shows. Granted, audiences have a larger mix of out-of-towners being a tourist attraction, but still...
Having said this, where's the "Broadway Show Tunes" format? Besides the one-day stunt on 105.1 FM New York many years ago?

Emmis made a calculated gamble that trying to reach young males would pay off more than the demos they were getting with CD101.9. They lost that gamble - plus Emmis as a whole recently was up against large debt payments in September. Thus the need to sell off majority stakes in 3 stations. As has also been argued here, perhaps 'RXP's rock format would have been dumped earlier if the station wasn't being sold off - no need to invest $$$ and effort into something they knew would be divested soon.

If the smooth jazz format had continued uninterrupted on 101.9, would Emmis had been better off today? Maybe slightly, but not enough to make a difference. Not just in New York, but the smooth jazz format is disappearing across the country - unfortunately it's not financially feasible to keep it as is - which is why some of them have morphed into smooth AC, if not abandoning the format altogether. Is there still a audience for it? Sure. Thousands of people in the NYC metro? Sure. Enough and in the right demos that advertisers like thus being viable financially? Apparently not.

As with any musical format, it's not a commentary on the quality of the music itself (although quality's an arguable point - it's in the ear of the beholder).
 
Abridged version: Smooth jazz is no longer a viable format, thanks largely to PPM.
 
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