Car Makes & Models with No AM Band.

[davideduardo]

Last year there was a story about a southern state hit by a tornado. Residents were trapped in a church basement after the church had been leveled. They contacted help via Facebook on their phones.
The point being; we on some radio discussion forum are out of touch, when it comes to what people under 50 actually use today in emergencies. It isn't AM radio.

And if you go back to the start of this sub-thread, it is about first generation non-English speaking immigrants and I was addressing that segment. Since foreign born residents are at a higher percentage of the population than ever before, this is a significant issue.

Look at the languages legally required for election materials just in LA County:

Armenian
Bengali
Burmese
Farsi
Gujarati
Hindi
Indonesian
Japanese
Khmer
Mongolian
Persian
Russian
Telugu
Thai

Do you think people who need election material in those languages are going to be finding breaking local news in their language online?

If we are looking at those from the four major migration sources, Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador, the majority are only semi-literate and totally monolingual, speaking Spanish or an indigenous language. They can't read local Facebook et. al. posts in English.

In varying degrees, this issue of literacy and language ability has been an element of immigrants for the last 300 years.

 

[Kelly A]

Do you think people who need election material in those languages are going to be finding breaking local news in their language online?

So, are you saying folks who speak those languages are finding election material and breaking news on AM stations? Likely not election material, but there might be some using radio. For folks under 50, I'd say most via apps and sites via smartphones.

If we are looking at those from the four major migration sources, Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador, the majority are only semi-literate and totally monolingual, speaking Spanish or an indigenous language. They can't read local Facebook et. al. posts in English.

You know as well as I, that LA County has more media outlets more likely for Spanish-speakers to get news, music and entertainment than AM stations. We've talked before about how there's no longer need for limited, or poor quality of AM stations as being the only media for Hispanics within the market.

In varying degrees, this issue of literacy and language ability has been an element of immigrants for the last 300 years.

All you need to do is download and install the right apps.

 

[davideduardo]

All you need to do is download and install the right apps.

Again, back to the original subject: breaking urgent news in a language other than Spanish or English for first generation immigrants. In their majority, they are not going to find immediate breaking news they understand online, no matter what the age. While they may have family that can explain based on English language sources, there is just no local breaking news source online in Farsi or Nahuatl or Quechua/Quechua and other such tongues.

The idea that many first generation immigrant groups immediately learn English if they arrive as adults is mistaken.

 

[Kelly A]

The idea that many first generation immigrant groups immediately learn English if they arrive as adults is mistaken.

I never claimed they were. But, how does a radio station survive over the long haul, let alone an AM station, on what amounts to a geographically-handful of first generation immigrant/potential listener's who even after several years, haven't yet fully assimilated into an English-speaking society? Seems like a fraction of a fraction.

 

[TheBigA]

Talk show host Mark Levin claims dropping AM is an attack on conservative radio. So he's now against big auto:

Mark Levin: Discontinuation Of AM In Cars Is Attack On Conservative Talk Radio.

The radio industry and several members of Congress are united in their stance that AM radio remain in EVs and other automobiles in the future, and now Westwood One-syndicated talk

www.insideradio.com

So now Mark Levin and Ed Markey are on the same side.

 

[PTBoardOp94]

So now Mark Levin and Ed Markey are on the same side.

And that's how things get done.

 

[Kelly A]

Talk show host Mark Levin claims dropping AM is an attack on conservative radio. So he's now against big auto:

So now Mark Levin and Ed Markey are on the same side.

That's okay. Likely 'conservative' white males over 50 aren't EV consumers anyway.

 

[TheBigA]

That's okay. Likely 'conservative' white males over 50 aren't EV consumers anyway.

What's funny to me is the talk show host is focused on the conspiracy, while the senator is focused on public service.'

Shows how two people who are about the same age can see the exact thing in two very different ways.

 

[boombox4]

I never claimed they were. But, how does a radio station survive over the long haul, let alone an AM station, on what amounts to a geographically-handful of first generation immigrant/potential listener's who even after several years, haven't yet fully assimilated into an English-speaking society? Seems like a fraction of a fraction.

Most AM in smaller population languages is brokered. One station will have programs in several different immigrant languages. That is probably how they survive. Because FM doesn't yet have a lot of brokered, immigrant language stations.

 

[Kelly A]

What's funny to me is the talk show host is focused on the conspiracy, while the senator is focused on public service.'

You know as well as I how that works: Talk show host focuses on the sizzle of a conspiracy to solicit audience outrage. Politician focuses on 'looking out for their constituents'. Yeah, right.

Shows how two people who are about the same age can see the exact thing in two very different ways.

But in both instances; only to their own benefit.

 

[michael hagerty]

You know as well as I how that works: Talk show host focuses on the sizzle of a conspiracy to solicit audience outrage. Politician focuses on 'looking out for their constituents'. Yeah, right.

But in both instances; only to their own benefit.

And let's face it. Mark Levin has a vested interest (more than most) in whether AM radios are in cars.

 

[wadio]

Talk show host Mark Levin claims dropping AM is an attack on conservative radio.

That's absurd. If his show and it's message are relevant, it will survive in some form. If not, it won't.

Let's face it, AM radio is on life support for technical reasons.

Levin should focus on the message, not the media.

 

[Kelly A]

That's absurd. If his show and it's message are relevant, it will survive in some form. If not, it won't.

Let's face it, AM radio is on life support for technical reasons.

Levin should focus on the message, not the media.

Ultimately it's just another attempt to gin-up a topic to get his AM-listener base angry.

 

[michael hagerty]

That's absurd. If his show and it's message are relevant, it will survive in some form. If not, it won't.

Let's face it, AM radio is on life support for technical reasons.

Levin should focus on the message, not the media.

Well, hang on.

Conservative talk radio found a home on AM decades ago. FM has not rushed (no pun intended) to embrace it. Levin makes money on AM for now. Anything that accelerates the decline in that band's listenership and/or existence, even gradually, threatens Levin's wallet.

 

[AbrahamJSimpson]

“Them newfangled electric cars and their work drivers are the root of all evil. Jebus drove a gas-guzzling pickup with a gun rack and that’s good enough for me.”

 

[AbrahamJSimpson]

Well, hang on.

Conservative talk radio found a home on AM decades ago. FM has not rushed (no pun intended) to embrace it. Levin makes money on AM for now. Anything that accelerates the decline in that band's listenership and/or existence, even gradually, threatens Levin's wallet.

Makes me want to buy one or two of those cars just to help put him out to pasture.

 

[wadio]

Well, hang on.

Conservative talk radio found a home on AM decades ago. FM has not rushed (no pun intended) to embrace it. Levin makes money on AM for now. Anything that accelerates the decline in that band's listenership and/or existence, even gradually, threatens Levin's wallet.

Sure. So his choice is to try to save AM radio ... a fools errand ... or work toward transitioning to FM and other platforms.

BTW, there are plenty of conservation talk show hosts who don't share Levin's negativism. Their shows are fun and more forward-looking.

 

[gr8oldies]

Talk show host Mark Levin claims dropping AM is an attack on conservative radio. So he's now against big auto:

Mark Levin: Discontinuation Of AM In Cars Is Attack On Conservative Talk Radio.

The radio industry and several members of Congress are united in their stance that AM radio remain in EVs and other automobiles in the future, and now Westwood One-syndicated talk

www.insideradio.com

So now Mark Levin and Ed Markey are on the same side.

Like his listeners couldn't find any way to hear him screech.

 

[DarrenVision]

And if you go back to the start of this sub-thread, it is about first generation non-English speaking immigrants and I was addressing that segment. Since foreign born residents are at a higher percentage of the population than ever before, this is a significant issue.

Look at the languages legally required for election materials just in LA County:

Armenian
Bengali
Burmese
Farsi
Gujarati
Hindi
Indonesian
Japanese
Khmer
Mongolian
Persian
Russian
Telugu
Thai

Do you think people who need election material in those languages are going to be finding breaking local news in their language online?

If we are looking at those from the four major migration sources, Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador, the majority are only semi-literate and totally monolingual, speaking Spanish or an indigenous language. They can't read local Facebook et. al. posts in English.

In varying degrees, this issue of literacy and language ability has been an element of immigrants for the last 300 years.

hey there's no Vietnamese and Tagalog

 

[davideduardo]

hey there's no Vietnamese and Tagalog

Yes, odd. I'd think both of those would be prevalent enough to warrant inclusion in the language options. I wonder how often they update the list, and what data they use to determine inclusion.

Also, what is the difference between Farsi and Persian? And where are Arabic and Spanish?