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Carly Simon is classic rock?

Cetera turned a great band into another Air Supply or Bread. Toothless saccharine ballads were his trademark. Sure, they sold a lot of records. It still tarnished the legacy of the bands excellent early catalog...
I'm trying to put both of these in one but it doesn't work. No, I have different reasons for disliking Cetera. "If You Leave Me Now" despite Cetera and "Does Anyone Really Know What Time It Is?" are the only Chicago songs I like. You would think "Colour My World", but no.

In general I like Air Supply and Bread. "Guitar Man" I don't like because of the annoying guitar but I have to admit the rest of it is good. "Sweet Dreams", "Just As I Am" and "Making Love Out of Nothing At All" are the exceptions.
 
Jefferson Starship was also heavily criticized by their long-time fans for "selling out" and "going corporate" in the '80s when they jettisoned "Jefferson" from their name and had three #1 pop hits, "We Built This City", "Sara", and "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now".

Chicago tried returning to their original brassy sound in the late '90s -- they brought back the horn section, but not Cetera, and released two new songs, "All Roads Lead to You" and "Show Me a Sign", which received modest AC airplay.
 
Jefferson Starship was also heavily criticized by their long-time fans for "selling out" and "going corporate" in the '80s when they jettisoned "Jefferson" from their name and had three #1 pop hits, "We Built This City", "Sara", and "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now".
Don't get me wrong, I totally respect Jefferson Airplane for the socially conscious songs they released in the early years. Additionally, both Grace Slick and Marty Balin could really sing! But the group was releasing songs for a completely different audience (the MTV generation) by the time Mickey Thomas joined and songs like "Sara" were released. I guess I understand why the older fans were upset, but isn't it great that Starship was able to adapt their sound and appeal to another generation?
 
Don't get me wrong, I totally respect Jefferson Airplane for the socially conscious songs they released in the early years. Additionally, both Grace Slick and Marty Balin could really sing! But the group was releasing songs for a completely different audience (the MTV generation) by the time Mickey Thomas joined and songs like "Sara" were released. I guess I understand why the older fans were upset, but isn't it great that Starship was able to adapt their sound and appeal to another generation?
I'm not usually interested in socially conscious songs, but in songs that sound good.
 
I'm not usually interested in socially conscious songs, but in songs that sound good.
And isn't it great that Jefferson Airplane's body of work ticks both boxes? As someone from the MTV generation, I wanted to acknowledge my understanding of the significance of the group's earlier material while expressing my preference for their 80s songs. TBH, couldn't Airplane and Starship be considered two different groups that shared some members?
 
And isn't it great that Jefferson Airplane's body of work ticks both boxes? As someone from the MTV generation, I wanted to acknowledge my understanding of the significance of the group's earlier material while expressing my preference for their 80s songs. TBH, couldn't Airplane and Starship be considered two different groups that shared some members?
Yes, very different groups. The early Airplane era was part of the San Francisco vibe with the Grateful Dead, Santana, etc... The middle Jefferson Starship era still had Marty Balin classics like "Miracles" and "Caroline". After Balin left, the band deteriorated into 80s dross.
"We Built This City" is actually quite embarrassing...
 
No, they do it because they're reaching a wider audience. A wider audience is served by playing the hits.
This is, again, the misconception that "variety" means "more songs". Variety is a perception based on a station not playing weak songs or stiffs.

The stations with the highest variety perception results in research are CHR stations that play less than 70 to 80 total songs. But they are "the right songs".
 
It was adapted for a commercial for a financial/investment company (I forget which one) in the 1990s. Talk about selling out!
Even worse, many Radio stations made their own custom versions. They edited in their own call letters for shameless promotion. The lyric about "playing corporation games" was absurd. Truly awful...
 
I would go with an occasional spin of "Anytime".
The song that broke the streak. "Having My Baby" peaked at #1, "One Man Woman/One Woman Man" at #7, "I Don't Like To Sleep Alone" at #8, "(I Believe) There's Nothing Stronger Than Our Love" at #15, "Times Of Your Life" at #7 and "Anytime" at #33.
 
It was adapted for a commercial for a financial/investment company (I forget which one) in the 1990s. Talk about selling out!
Good Lord Man! Note all the current commercials being broadcast today who use Classic Rock music as their background. I'm absolutely sure those old groups didn't "sell out".

If somebody fills your palm with money and your song disappeared long, long ago why wouldn't you license? You never know what's old might become new again.
 
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