could the stations fill the slot with a syndicated product, could Arsenio try again?
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CBS cancels The Late Show
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See post 126. Stations can also sign off at midnight. Some once did. Arsenio will turn 70 next year.
K.M. Richards
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Or they could just run infomercials starting an hour or so after the late news (which they could expand to a full hour if they wanted to; the incremental cost would be minimal and it adds local sales avails).
I would imagine a lot of CBS stations will start joining the network for "CBS News Roundup" earlier (it's available to all affiliates starting at 1:00am ET).
I don't think any of the past late night hosts could be persuaded to return; part of the problem there is that they have been off for so long, their old audience would only tune in (if at all) out of curiosity but wouldn't stick around night-to-night to make any difference. And younger viewers -- even if they cared, amidst all the streaming options -- don't know who Arsenio is ... or even Conan or Dave.
They know Conan more than any. His YouTube presence is huge with the podcast. Even Letterman has built an online presence. Not sure what Arsenio is doing these days.
Seriously, guys, re-read this:
https://radiodiscussions.com/threads/cbs-cancels-the-late-show.777274/post-6850691
https://radiodiscussions.com/threads/cbs-cancels-the-late-show.777274/post-6850691
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
These days, I do not consider podcast success a guarantee of traditional media success.
While Conan and Dave would be the likeliest candidates (podcasts notwithstanding), Letterman has expressed no desire to go back into the daily grind and O'Brien was burned more than once by the industry.
Linear television is on a decline. Look how much of the "big five" networks are relying on game shows (this week alone, Fox has Celebrity Weakest Link and Name That Tune, CW has Scrabble, and ABC has Celebrity Wheel of Fortune), competitive shows (Dancing With the Stars on ABC is directly competing with The Voice on NBC this Tuesday, CBS has Survivor and The Amazing Race on back-to-back on Wednesday as well and The Golden Bachelor is on ABC the next night) and crime drama (20+ hours across four networks for the week).
Late night is becoming the next logical step in the networks coping with the changes, since they've done almost everything they can with daytime. Think about how much of daytime was game shows and soap operas a few decades ago, then consider that the former genre is one solitary program and that the three remaining soaps fill a total of 2½ hours per day.
Any network executive who thinks spending the money it would take to lure either of the two best "heritage" hosts back to late night would find himself fired before it would happen.
Conan is happy doing what he does now, Letterman is happy doing what he does now. Neither of them are going back to regular TV.
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
That's pretty much what I had implied.
Letterman is 78 years old. He’s not a candidate. Neither’s Conan, who’s 62, but for different reasons.
And the idea of it being a “TV podcast”…would you listen to a podcast that took commercial breaks every 11 minutes?
There are four soaps on network TV. 3 on CBS which occupy 2.5 hours per day and 1 on ABC which occupies 1 hour per day.
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
Oh, I forgot that new one on CBS, whatever its name is. (Probably won't last long anyway).
But I also forgot the second game show on that same network, so you may make of that lapse of memory whatever you wish.
My point is still valid ... both genres occupy a lot less time than they used to back in the day.
Beyond The Gates...it's actually a very good show. Your point is accurate, but I'm solely presenting facts.
Beyond the Gates is doing very well for CBS. Well enough, that they have been renewed for a second season.
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
That's encouraging, but with so much in flux there after the merger I don't bet on anything remaining status quo for very long.
The second CBS game show is Let’s Make A Deal.
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
Yeah. I remembered Drew Carey but forgot Wayne Brady.
Which is kinda ironic since they were both on the same show (Whose Line Is It Anyway?) for a while (1998 to 2007).
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
Game shows are relatively inexpensive to produce. The non-cash prizes are provided in exchange for the famous "promotional consideration". From that perspective, the answer to your question is "yes" if by sponsors you meant the companies providing all the prizes.
Somewhat apples to oranges as well with licensing vs in-house. Eventually budget squeezes hit, they’re inevitable. But in a scenario like Price is Right, Fremantle also has small but still real revenue coming in from streams like licensing and the traveling live show that are more valuable with the show on the air. They’re still going to need to deal with what CBS is willing to pony up and make the budget work, but they’re pretty able to manage that. When the hard games keep showing up, or prices become less intuitive/easy to guess, they’re managing that budget over the course of the season.
Look at this amazing car you can win—except you’re playing a game that’s won maybe once a year at best. Brings the average cost down to make up for the episodes where they may want easier wins.
Look at this amazing car you can win—except you’re playing a game that’s won maybe once a year at best. Brings the average cost down to make up for the episodes where they may want easier wins.
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