CBS ever so slowly scaling back on the 60s

[briancraig]

The problem with the 90s is the lack of mass appeal hits. Music had become so niched by that point that there will likely be only a hand full of tunes from the decade that can be added to a classic hits station.

 

[davideduardo]

Earlier rock 'n roll has more appeal (instruments, lyrics, rhythms) than today's computer generated noise, as classics.

I'll put "Bad Romance" against "It's my Party" and my vote goes to Lady Gaga... even though I played the older song as a current.

Each era, each decade, has its musical gems and its musical sludge. But no era is really any better or worse than any other except in the opinions of individuals whose experience and taste favors one but not the others.

 

[oldies76]

I'll put "Bad Romance" against "It's my Party" and my vote goes to Lady Gaga... even though I played the older song as a current.

Each era, each decade, has its musical gems and its musical sludge. But no era is really any better or worse than any other except in the opinions of individuals whose experience and taste favors one but not the others.

Overall musically, the 50's through the mid 80's is highly regarded as some of the best music ever produced and will never, ever be duplicated. In the history of rock and roll, nothing compares to this period. As for which is better, for the vast majority, is this period mentioned.

Sure some of today's kids may disagree, but tell that to some of the younger crowd that actually enjoy their parent's musical tastes.

As for Lady Gaga....the music may appeal, but the talent.......you cannot compare. The older music wins big time! Anyone can dress up in costume today and sing. Writing your own music, playing real instruments and singing.....is what musical talent is all about.

 

[davideduardo]

As for Lady Gaga....the music may appeal, but the talent.......you cannot compare. The older music wins big time! Anyone can dress up in costume today and sing. Writing your own music, playing real instruments and singing.....is what musical talent is all about.

And the car will never replace the horse.

Let's keep in mind that something like 90% of the worlds population has never heard any of the songs you hold so dear.

 

[uncamark]

As for Lady Gaga....the music may appeal, but the talent.......you cannot compare. The older music wins big time! Anyone can dress up in costume today and sing. Writing your own music, playing real instruments and singing.....is what musical talent is all about.

She does all three of those things and has been control of everything in her career from the beginning. She is not the puppet of a songwriter or TV producer. Just go to YouTube and you will find her singing some of her songs with just her piano accompaniment. Whether or not you like her, she is a genuine talent who likes to push buttons, including yours.

 

[Silkie]

I was listening to CBS FM last night, and heard plenty of 60's on the CBS-FM Sunday Night Countdown with Dick Bartley. In fact two hours of nothing but 1966, and there were plenty of 60's in the CBS-FM Memorial Day Countdown as well. Not all 60's all the time, but not exactly void or lacking either.

 

[oldies76]

She does all three of those things and has been control of everything in her career from the beginning. She is not the puppet of a songwriter or TV producer. Just go to YouTube and you will find her singing some of her songs with just her piano accompaniment. Whether or not you like her, she is a genuine talent who likes to push buttons, including yours.

A rarity today.

Just don't call her today's Madonna.

 

[briancraig]

Lady Gaga performs a type of music that traditionally doesn't have staying power. I doubt very seriously anyone will care about her music 20 years from now.

 

[DToTheJ]

Yet she'll probably be a staple of "Lite FM" in twenty years - granted, if they're still even going by that name at that time... :

 

[oldies76]

And the car will never replace the horse.

Let's keep in mind that something like 90% of the worlds population has never heard any of the songs you hold so dear.

Wish I had a horse with today's gas prices...

And over 75% of the USA population over 45 has heard them.

 

[MarkO]

I've mentioned this before, but Gold in London don't seem to be cutting back on 60s at all yet


Mind you the 'Britpop' boom of the 1990s means there are a lot of people my age (mid 30s) who like 60s music....

Gold in London has a 1.3 audience share and a weekly cume of 317,000 listeners. CBS-FM has a 5.3 share and a cume of 3.7 million.

However, in comparison to CBS-FM, also Gold suffers from uninspired production, jocks with zero personality, no FM signal and an FM/digital competitor ("Magic"- also totally bland) which also features a lot of 60s/70s music.

 

[davideduardo]

And over 75% of the USA population over 45 has heard them.

That does not mean that they like oldies... or if they do, that they like lots of oldies.

In New York, less than one person in ten listens to WCBS-FM each day, and less than one in 15 persons listens to them an hour or more a day. That means that, on a given day, 90% of New Yorkers in that age group don't listen to the pop oldies station at all.

60's American pop songs are not the end-all of music. Try to keep a sense of proportion about this.

 

[lalumia]

you're right;
it's 50's,60's, 70's and 80's that are the ultimate in pop music,
just as classical music is still heard ,supported and purchased hundreds of years later..

 

[adma]

you're right;
it's 50's,60's, 70's and 80's that are the ultimate in pop music,
just as classical music is still heard ,supported and purchased hundreds of years later..

...and yet, where are the commercial classical stations? Esp. compared to two or four decades ago?

Which may be an argument for the marketface for said "ultimate in pop music" becoming more specialized and boutique-y over time, and hence off-radar relative to the no-nonsense mass marketplace. (And probably just as well, considering how oldies overkill ruined a lot of pop/rock/soul classics.)

 

[lalumia]

well the point is that,hundreds of years later, that music is still being heard and supported,while the music of the 1910's,1920's, not so much,even though it's more recent in a time line than classical..
not everything follows a chrnological path where 'art' is concerned

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F7dLSgtVC0

 

[landtuna]

well the point is that,hundreds of years later, that music is still being heard and supported,while the music of the 1910's,1920's, not so much,even though it's more recent in a time line than classical..
not everything follows a chrnological path where 'art' is concerned

It's true. Mozart, Bach and Beethoven could indeed be entitled the original Oldies. But the major difference is that those oldies have been covered many times by modern artists with modern recording gear. The music of the 1910's and 20's is marginal at best when recorded and not many covers are available. However, I would point to examples such as the theme from 1973's "The Sting" (Scott Joplin's "The Entertainer") as old-time music which became very popular again. Swing and Big Band music makes periodic returns even though it has virtually no airplay. OTOH, school bands still concentrate on marches and classical music to beginning musicians. That is where the interest is reborn and resides as those people age.

 

[michael hagerty]

Select stations playing 50s & 60s music in 2020-2030? 60 to 80 year old records? Notgonnahappen.com. You'll be lucky to hear 1969 by 2015.

 

[DToTheJ]

But how, then, can we hear this song that reached number 1 in 1969?

(Scratch that - it's not played enough in 2005, let alone 2015... and it'll probably be all but scrubbed from 99% of playlists come 2025. Sad... )

 

[DToTheJ]

But how, then, can we hear this song that reached number 1 in 1969?

(Scratch that - it's not played enough in 2005, let alone 2015... and it'll probably be all but scrubbed from 99% of playlists come 2025. Sad... )

 

[adma]

If it's any musical-conoisseurship compensation, there probably *won't* be any such broad "playlists" by 2025, because mass-appeal-terrestrial-music-radio-as-we-know-it will be in the technological and cultural dumpster. Oh, the music, and its "purposability", will still be there, much as it's always been--maybe less so due to time and tide, relatively speaking; but it'll be there, unlike several pre-digital-technology decades ago when it'd vanish from view altogether.

Oh, and I suppose stuff like Nick Drake's "Pink Moon" will still have its appeal in 2025.