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CBS names As The World Turns replacement...

It's a pilot at this point, just like the Pyramid pilot. Neither is a replacement yet.
 
charlestondxman said:
Another yappy talk show? I wish they would just extend B&B to an hour and put a half-hour game at 2:30.

That would make sense to extended B&B to an hour from a half an hour, we really don't want to see another crappy talk show. It's amazing how there are such boneheads that are running these networks today....smh
 
Never ceases to amaze me how people think their tastes must be shared by the rest of the population. I don't want another talk show either, but recognize that many people might well feel differently.
 
I hear the working title for CBS' new talk show will be "The Sight."
 
I don't understand the economics of keeping "Bold & Beautiful" as a half-hour soap. I'm not much of a viewer but the opening credits have more than a dozen actors listed. Even the least on the list has to be making six figures and some of the veterans are earning much more. The show has writers and producers and support people to pay but can only schedule 10 minutes of commercials. If CBS is axing soaps because of economics, why leave this soap as only a 30 minute show?

And considering Price is Right and Let's Make A Deal are doing well in the ratings (and cost less than a soap to produce) what was said earlier makes sense. Expand B&B to an hour and run a 30 minute game show right after.

I thought talk shows were on the decline. Oprah is leaving, Ellen is closer to a variety show, driven by guests rather than topics. Of course, if you're Mrs. Moonves and want a talk show, you get a talk show.



Gregg
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When "talk" encompasses everything from the Regis and Ellen style shows to Jerry and Maury, it's a broad brush to paint with. Like all broadcast, the audience is smaller than a quarter century ago or more thanks to audience fragmentation; that said, as a broad genre, talk still does well. Yes, long-running shows inevitably decline, and there are busts on the launchpad as in every genre, but there's still a good audience--and thus $ to be made--when a format or particular show breaks through (witness The View in the first place).

As for the economics of a half-hour soap, it could be cheaper than an hour, as generally you're going to require less labor costs overall in a thrity minute show. I took a look at the opening credits, and lots of the cast members listed look to be youngsters, which certainly makes things a bit cheaper. But more importantly than any of that is that CBS makes a big chunk of change from international distribution, where the show does huge numbers.
 
I read somewhere years ago that one reason B&B hasn't become a hour show is that they haven't had studio space for it at TV City. Bradley Bell (son of the late/great Bill Bell) may also feel like his father did for a time--one reason it took Y&R so long to go to an hour (after Another World and the others that had made the jump already had done so) was that Bill Bell didn't feel strongly enough that he could write for an hour show (after having done 15- and 30-minute show writing for most of his life up to 1980).

I haven't seen anything brought up lately among mags/forums/blogs/etc about B&B even considering going to an hour.
 
If CBS was smart, they would move "The Young & The Restless" to 1pm(we're talking Eastern Time, maybe other times in various time zones, depending on what certain CBS stations want to do, most may run it at 11am) and expand "The Bold
& The Beautiful" to one hour at 2pm, 1pm or other times elsewhere, this way Noon to 1pm would stay open for local programming, and they should shift "Let's Make A Deal" to 10am, 9am or later elsewhere, as some stations have, and give back 3pm/2pm central and others to affiliates.
 
Gregg said:
I don't understand the economics of keeping "Bold & Beautiful" as a half-hour soap. I'm not much of a viewer but the opening credits have more than a dozen actors listed. Even the least on the list has to be making six figures and some of the veterans are earning much more. The show has writers and producers and support people to pay but can only schedule 10 minutes of commercials. If CBS is axing soaps because of economics, why leave this soap as only a 30 minute show?

Hey, "The Simpsons" has about three dozen producers listed in their opening credits, and they've been thriving as a half-hour show for years. ;)
 
No, CBS is smart for not moving it. You have one of the top shows remaining on network daytime, so tinkering with that just for the sake of tinkering is completely the wrong business strategy.
 
Not only does the "Y&R"/"B&B" combo work just fine the
way it is, some cast members on "B&B" have said they'll
quit if the show ever goes to an hour. John McCook (Eric),
for one, says he likes having a normal 9-5:30 workday instead
of the 12-14 hours he'd have to put in on an hour show;
Susan Flannery (Stephanie) says she was on her feet 12-14
hours a day on "Days Of Our Lives," and that she refuses to
go through that again.

As for the "ATWT" replacement, does the world really need
more Julie Chen?
 
bpatrick said:
As for the "ATWT" replacement, does the world really need more Julie Chen?

The head of programming at CBS (who just happens to be her husband) thinks we do...
 
And while we're on the subject of Julie Chen - and CBS half-hour daytime programming...

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser..._show_and_what_about_amanda_holden_159190.asp

"Insiders tell us, if the pilot she is taping for CBS Daytime next month becomes a series, it may only be a half-hour. CBS's cancellation of "As The World Turns" in September will leave an hour to fill on the daytime schedule. CBS is thinking of giving back a half hour to affiliates and the other half might be filled by the Chen show..."

So, suppose Chen's new show - "The Sight" or whatever it's going to be called - is successful. If they wanted to expand it to one hour, perhaps they could get rid of one of their game shows, and/or expand "B&B" to one hour at that point?
 
Or they kill off a game, and give another half hour back as another option, should that scenario come to pass.
 
Maybe to solve all this, move "Let's Make A Deal" to either 10am or 2pm(Eastern Time or other times in various time zones)
and give back one hour to the CBS affiliates, the soaps can remain where they are, that way, the network saves money.
 
CBS is likely, and understandably, reluctant to cede more hours if they can avoid it. Thus far, swapping Guiding Light for Deal has worked from a cost (thus profitability) standpoint. Yes, dropping another hour "saves" them money on one end, but if they're making the hour profitable with cheaper stuff (be it a talker or a game show), you don't just give up the real estate Look at both sides of the ledger before casting aside something you'll (practically speaking) never get back.
 
Look at NBC, they are down to one afternoon soap, and even though two hours are being covered by the "Today Show", the
network is not wasting time slots.
 
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