CBS needs to blow up 1210 AM

[Unregistered]

Democratic city is irrelevant. There are plenty of people in the deepest of blue or red cities who have the other viewpoint. And then there's that little thing called the suburbs.

Top radio stations still attract less than 1 in 10 people in most cases. There's plenty of room there for conservative radio in a liberal city.

And commercial are, and long have been, run for the benefit of the real customers. And that's not the listeners. The listeners are the product. Always have been.

Running the station like the "old" 1210....hmmm, maybe there's a reason why the old 1210 is no more.

 

[Small Market Guy]

If I was running 1210, it would be a news/talk station like WCAU, with a true commitment to its listeners, not the way Bloom and Rayfeild are running it. it would not be a train wreck. Right wing talk doesn't work in a democratic city like Philly. Its a miracle that CBS hasn't made changes to WPHT in recent weeks.

So you'd have a liberal talk station? Those have done so well everywhere they've been tried.

Oh wait, no they haven't. They've been massive failures every single time.

Your 3rd sports talk station idea was better.

As much as we'd like to see a WWDB clone, those type of stations just don't make money. There's a reason 'DB folded.

 

[Jul]

So you'd have a liberal talk station? Those have done so well everywhere they've been tried.

Oh wait, no they haven't. They've been massive failures every single time.

Your 3rd sports talk station idea was better.

As much as we'd like to see a WWDB clone, those type of stations just don't make money. There's a reason 'DB folded.

and PHT will meet the same fate, someday. to show you what kind of station 1210 is, they are running the best of Chris Stigall right now instead of Rich Zeoli is usually on from 6-9 PM Monday-Friday nights.

 

[Unregistered]

Friday night dead time. Someone has the night off. Oh the horror.

 

[wprt949]

I thought you said you where finished talking about WPHT it seems like you cant keep a promise

 

[cg41386]

If I was running 1210, it would be a news/talk station like WCAU, with a true commitment to its listeners, not the way Bloom and Rayfeild are running it. it would not be a train wreck. Right wing talk doesn't work in a democratic city like Philly. Its a miracle that CBS hasn't made changes to WPHT in recent weeks.

There are right-wing talk stations in numerous Democratic cities...

 

[Jul]

There are right-wing talk stations in numerous Democratic cities...

amazing.

 

[Bill_W]

Which cities? Which stations? Didn't liberal talk stations fail in Boston, NYC, LA? Aren't those Dem cities. I think the reason they fail is that liberals already have NPR to listen to.

 

[TheBigA]

I think the reason they fail is that liberals already have NPR to listen to.

We already covered this. NPR doesn't do talk shows. Their only attempt, Talk of the Nation, was canceled last year.

On the other hand, some NPR stations do their own talk shows. In DC, WAMU does several, one of which is syndicated.

I notice that WPHT is identified in Nielsen as a Talk station. WHYY is N/T.

 

[Art Landing]

Why do conservative talk stations do better than liberal ones? A Pew study on Facebook usage vs other social media sites quoted in the Washington Post may give some insight.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...hat-facebook-can-tell-us-about-conservatives/

The key is networking. Although the conservative sites had fewer hits than the liberal ones they were found to have a far higher referral rate – 22% from Facebook alone. The conservatives are both motivated and organized and (from their view) informed – this means they want to be the “defenders” of what they see as threatened values, making them effective beyond what there mere numbers would indicate.

Why don’t liberal listeners network in the same manner as conservatives? My theory is that from an audience perspective many liberals come from a different view. They do not subscribe to Reagan’s famous “government isn’t the solution to problems – it is the problem!” quote which was in turn based on Madison’s warning about distrusting anyone given power. Liberal philosophically feel the opposite. They perceive active government (rather than independent volunteer citizens a la deTocqueville) as the primary means needed to address what they perceive otherwise intractable problems.

This perception, and its related mindset, is an audience which thinks differently and doesn’t want to be spurred to action because it feels victimized rather than empowered. The liberal (used as a synonym here for the “social justice/progressive/Marxist ” approach) relies on courts and paid bureaucrats, not free individuals identifying with the revolutionary war tea party, to liberate the oppressed from perceived exploiters. Conservatives see government bureaucrats and activist judges as the exploiters. What liberal host has clubs and national events a la Glen Beck? Or petition and recall drives as do John and Ken on KFI?

My own view is that neither camp is 100% right. If it weren’t for big government we couldn’t have beaten national socialism and the Japanese “Co-prosperitysphere” in WW2 or eliminated racial segregation. But we are bankrupting ourselves by supporting a volunteer military that costs more than the defense budgets of the rest of the world combined and practicing “quanitative easing” while adopting a European-style social needs agenda. But it’s the organized conservatives that have the edge in talk radio because their audience wants to be involved in the solution – to be “The Answer” or “The Patriot” (to use the banners of 2 stsations here in Los Angeles). Liberal philosophy is based more on division, protest and class warfare pointed at redistribution of the wealth and power of others, not personal involvement is solving problems.

 

[TheBigA]

The comments at the linked article are interesting.

 

[Bill_W]

We already covered this. NPR doesn't do talk shows. Their only attempt, Talk of the Nation, was canceled last year.

On the other hand, some NPR stations do their own talk shows. In DC, WAMU does several, one of which is syndicated.

I notice that WPHT is identified in Nielsen as a Talk station. WHYY is N/T.

Sorry. I didn't know that. Does WHYY do talk. I thought they did news/talk after they stopped classical. Don't they do interview shows which is kind of talk and opinion instead of the news news that KYW gives you? Fresh Air? The only two things I've ever heard on Public Radio are Car Talk and A Prairie Home Companion and now if I listen to those two it's on Sirius-XM.