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CBS vs TWC

Gregg said:
>>>"Time Warner Cable" has been a separate company from Time Warner for several years now. It's Time Warner, not Time Warner Cable, that owns HBO and Cinemax. <<<

Sure, but they still have some common ownership. It's more for Wall Street reasons that the two entities are separate, just like McDonald's and Chipotle are separate, even with different stocks and ticker symbols. But the two companies are not totally divorced from each other.

Yes, they are. Shareholders of record of Time Warner on the date of separation of 2009 received shares of Time Warner Cable. Some of those shareholders may have kept the TWC shares, some may have sold them, but the result was two completely separate publicly-traded companies under completely separate management and boards. TWC licenses the Time Warner name under a long-term agreement, and of course TWC pays Time Warner for programming from HBO, Cinemax, CNN, TBS and so on. But they are no longer the same company, even if some investors own shares in both.

http://ir.timewarner.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=70972&p=irol-twcseparation
 
I recently heard a blurb about it on Jack-FM in Los Angeles, the faux DJ banter.

CBS, Time Warner, get a room.

Funny thing is (for those who don't know) this is KCBS-FM owned by CBS.
 
Gregg said:
>>>"Time Warner Cable" has been a separate company from Time Warner for several years now. It's Time Warner, not Time Warner Cable, that owns HBO and Cinemax. <<<

Sure, but they still have some common ownership. It's more for Wall Street reasons that the two entities are separate, just like McDonald's and Chipotle are separate, even with different stocks and ticker symbols. But the two companies are not totally divorced from each other.

It so happens that the shareholders of TWC and Chipotle have chosen two directors who are retired executives of their former parent companies. The former parent companies no longer hold significant interests (above 5%), and so these directors could be ousted at any time.
 
Gregg said:
>>>"Time Warner Cable" has been a separate company from Time Warner for several years now. It's Time Warner, not Time Warner Cable, that owns HBO and Cinemax. <<<

Sure, but they still have some common ownership. It's more for Wall Street reasons that the two entities are separate, just like McDonald's and Chipotle are separate, even with different stocks and ticker symbols. But the two companies are not totally divorced from each other.
CBS and Viacom have common ownership, but that didn't stop Viacom from getting in a snit with CBS-owned Showtime and leaving to form Epix.
 
Time Warner Cable is the TWC referred to in this thread.

These spats are going to get more common even as the number of people 'cutting the cord' increases.
 
1069_KIFR said:
I thought NBC owns The Weather Channel (TWC). Why is CBS involved here?
If CBS owned the Weather Channel, why would the thread title be "CBS *vs* TWC"? I'm so stumped trying to figure out what you thought this thread was that I'm left to come to the conclusion you were trying to make a joke, except that someone else made the same joke earlier in the thread.
 
It wasn't meant as a joke. In many cable listings and channel abbreviations, I often see The Weather Channel listed as TWC.

As for Time-Warner Cable, I'm not aware of any franchises they have in Connecticut. I do know they run the show in Portland, Maine, however.
 
They are also the main cable co in much of NYC. So the impact could affect a lot of viewers.

There's just too many channels. There's really no more entertainment content than there was 25 years ago, it's just spread out.
 
KML-224 said:
It wasn't meant as a joke. In many cable listings and channel abbreviations, I often see The Weather Channel listed as TWC.
So you obviously didn't bother to read beyond the first few posts of the thread in hopes of having your question answered, with people commenting on how they thought the title referred to the Weather Channel on the first of three pages, and questioned why CBS would be involved in something that the title described as an adversarial relationship with something owned by another company? Again, what did you think you were commenting on?
 
Morgan Wick said:
1069_KIFR said:
I thought NBC owns The Weather Channel (TWC). Why is CBS involved here?
If CBS owned the Weather Channel, why would the thread title be "CBS *vs* TWC"? I'm so stumped trying to figure out what you thought this thread was that I'm left to come to the conclusion you were trying to make a joke, except that someone else made the same joke earlier in the thread.

C'mon Morgan, KIFR deserves some slack. I too thought you meant the The Weather Channel, for whom TWC is a widely used abbrev.
 
jfrancispastirchak said:
Morgan Wick said:
1069_KIFR said:
I thought NBC owns The Weather Channel (TWC). Why is CBS involved here?
If CBS owned the Weather Channel, why would the thread title be "CBS *vs* TWC"? I'm so stumped trying to figure out what you thought this thread was that I'm left to come to the conclusion you were trying to make a joke, except that someone else made the same joke earlier in the thread.

C'mon Morgan, KIFR deserves some slack. I too thought you meant the The Weather Channel, for whom TWC is a widely used abbrev.
Thinking the thread title referred to the Weather Channel: understandable (even I had it the first time I saw the thread). Being stumped as to why CBS would be in a dispute with it precisely because CBS doesn't own it: not so much.
 
This could go on for a while. The last retransmission dispute in my area lasted ~2 months. If CBS truly wants a 600% increase, which I don't doubt, then they probably won't settle for much less and Time Warner won't want to pay anything near that.
 
Casey said:
The last retransmission dispute in my area lasted ~2 months.

That's nothing. Over four years ago I was subject to the legendary and lengthy "Fish v Dish" dispute. Fisher (owner of KOMO here - soon part of Sinclair, gasp!) and dish Network had a heated standoff that lasted 5 1/2 months before someone blinked.
 
Last Summer it was Cablevision Vs Tribune. As a result of that dispute my cable system COX Meriden dropped WPIX/11 for good. Apparently they were using equipment from Cablevision to pick up WPIX/11. For at least a week COX had a slide on Channel 22 (WPIX's position on the lineup) that said WPIX is currently Off-The-Air and we are working hard to restore it as fast as we can. As the dispute between Cablevision and Tribune dragged on COX changed the slide on Channel 22. They changed it to as "As of Such and Such Date We have decided to no longer carry WPIX Ch. 22. Most CW Programming and New York Mets Games can be seen on WCCT-TV Ch. 11."
 
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