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CC plans to ax 75% of PD's nationwide!

Doesn't surprise me in the least. It's going to happen at other companies next as they always follow the leader, lemmings all...
 
Makes you wonder if CC is priming itself for a sale by unloading all those salaries!

Don't they have a $2 billion payment due on their $20 billion loan!?!?
 
Bug on the rug said:
According to an inside source. :'(

Sign of the continual downfall -- and quality! -- of terrestrial radio!

Your inside sources haven't been too accurate.

And how does getting rid of some suits affect the quality of what's on the air?

Unless these PDs are also on the air, no one will notice.
 
@ TheBigA: Things don't happen right away! And it doesn't mean management hasn't considered it! Can I rub it in when a rumor becomes reality?
Plus, you're implying that the radio business model never NEEDED PD's! Honestly think there needs to be quality controls, and to manage talent.

Guess source is also wrong about the entire CC news & traffic staff getting pink slips today in Columbus, Ohio!
 
Confirmed...

http://www.allaccess.com/net-news/archive/story/104220/clear-channel-makes-cuts-in-a-number-of-markets

Word is filtering in from a growing number of CLEAR CHANNEL MEDIA & ENTERTAINMENT radio markets of a lot of downsizing taking place.
ALL ACCESS contacted CLEAR CHANNEL, and VP/Marketing & Entertainment ANGEL ARISTONE confirmed the layoffs: "We are constantly evaluating our organization and structure to make sure we are as well positioned as possible to continue to lead in the evolving marketplace.
 
Even with Arbitrons downsizing of the Philly market, CC knows Philly is one of their main cities, CC knows Philly is the fifth largest city in the country, CC knows Philly has heritage. We'll be one of the last few to go - but LA? You guys have nothing to worry about. LA is the second largest market, you didn't get four counties cut out of your market. You have some of the highest fuming stations in the country (so does Philly - WBEB, WRDW, WIOQ).

I always will believe this... Broadcast companies that don't try to mass produce radio, will always be on top. Clear Channel is too large to fall, but in time, they won't be the largest. In time, innovative companies like Townsquare will be buying CC stations.

Trust me. AMFM and CC merge shocked the world, and stranger has happened!
 
RadioPhillyFan said:
Even with Arbitrons downsizing of the Philly market,

Arbitron has not "downsized the Philly market." The market is a slow-growth metro, and was passed by another market, as revealed in the Census Bureau data as processed by Claritas.

Arbitron does not conduct the US Census... the government does.

CC knows Philly is the fifth largest city in the country

Arbitron does not rate cities. It rates markets, and the base unit is the county. Nobody cares how big the central city is... they care how big the market is.

You guys have nothing to worry about. LA is the second largest market, you didn't get four counties cut out of your market.

Philly did not get four counties cut out of the market. The radio metro is different from the OMB (Federal Government's Office of Management & Budget) definition of a metro. One is a Metro Survey Area, the other is a Metropolitan Statistical Area. Radio metros are defined by radio usage, the other is defined by trade.

Trust me. AMFM and CC merge shocked the world, and stranger has happened!

Most of us thought that AM/FM was pretty much set up to "cash out" via merger or acquisition. The merger was expected.
 
DavidEduardo said:
RadioPhillyFan said:
Even with Arbitrons downsizing of the Philly market,

Arbitron has not "downsized the Philly market." The market is a slow-growth metro, and was passed by another market, as revealed in the Census Bureau data as processed by Claritas.

Arbitron does not conduct the US Census... the government does.

CC knows Philly is the fifth largest city in the country

Arbitron does not rate cities. It rates markets, and the base unit is the county. Nobody cares how big the central city is... they care how big the market is.

You guys have nothing to worry about. LA is the second largest market, you didn't get four counties cut out of your market.

Philly did not get four counties cut out of the market. The radio metro is different from the OMB (Federal Government's Office of Management & Budget) definition of a metro. One is a Metro Survey Area, the other is a Metropolitan Statistical Area. Radio metros are defined by radio usage, the other is defined by trade.

Trust me. AMFM and CC merge shocked the world, and stranger has happened!

Most of us thought that AM/FM was pretty much set up to "cash out" via merger or acquisition. The merger was expected.

The only thing I'll dispute you on is the metro.

No - Philadelphia is not a slow-growth metro. The city is projected to increse 1.32%, the metro is projected to increse by 6.32% by 2020, and triple that in 2030. (Delaware Valley Statistical Analysis Group, or something along those lines)

No, DC stastically only recieved just under 5% growth. (metro) - Philadelphia had 2.32%, the last of it's drops.

Currently, the population of Philadelphia is though to already have increased by nearly 1%.

Slow growth? Yes, 2000-2010. No, 2010-2020. The city is back on it's feet.


This is my hobby, I can provide proof if needed. Right now, I don't have the energy to do so (being it's 10:30 here).
 
Well KHHT hasnt had a PD in years since R Dub left the country but now hes in San Diego running XHRM. Since none of them have no real power could Stella Prado be on her way out?
 
RadioPhillyFan said:
The only thing I'll dispute you on is the metro.

There is nothing to dispute. The radio metro is based on persons 12+, and the geography is determined by a combination of radio listening and commute patterns as well as subscriber needs.

The government defined "metro" is defined by a different set of criteria, although there is generally a close match of radio metros and OMB metros but no requirement for them to do so.

No - Philadelphia is not a slow-growth metro. The city is projected to increse 1.32%,

Politicians care about cities. Radio folks and marketers care about markets. City limits are irrelevant, and the population of the City of Philadelphia is irrelevant beyond it being part of the Philadelphia MSA in radio.

the metro is projected to increse by 6.32% by 2020, and triple that in 2030. (Delaware Valley Statistical Analysis Group, or something along those lines)

The Philadelphia radio metro is growing by about 1.3% a decade. It is projected to increase from 5.164 million in 2010 to about 5.223 million in 2015, for a 5-year growth of 1% in 5 years. By 2020, which is enormously hard to project, the decade may show something like 1.8% growth. Again, in the radio metro.

No, DC stastically only recieved just under 5% growth. (metro) - Philadelphia had 2.32%, the last of it's drops.

The DC radio market grew, 2005 to 2010, by 3.2% and is projected at 4.4% growth 2010 to 2015. Compared to Philly's 1% growth, that is like comparing Namath to Tebow.

Currently, the population of Philadelphia is though to already have increased by nearly 1%.

From when to when? It will grow 0.2% annually from 2010 to 2015, for a total of 1%,

This is my hobby, I can provide proof if needed.

No, you can't. The historical figures and market data are right in every Arbitron Red and Blue Book, and are undeniable. As to growth, Arbitron is not in the prediction business but companies like Geoscape and Claritas will be glad to sell you statistical models for marketing based on the Arbitron ratings metros, and they show the figures I am presenting.

If you are discussing radio, you have to use the 12+ radio metro figures Arbitron uses... which come right from Claritas which uses the Census, ACS and modeling to provide yearly updates on many, many market demos for the whole country.
 
Bug on the rug said:
@ TheBigA: Things don't happen right away!

I'm just responding to the subject line.

Bug on the rug said:
Plus, you're implying that the radio business model never NEEDED PD's! Honestly think there needs to be quality controls, and to manage talent.

Have you studied the chain of command at CC? They can eliminate some PDs and still have local managers to ensure quality controls. But if I'm a talent, I'm thrilled that the suits are going away. It means the mice can play.
Bug on the rug said:
Guess source is also wrong about the entire CC news & traffic staff getting pink slips today in Columbus, Ohio!

No matter how you do that math, it doesn't add up to 75% of PDs getting axed.
 
DavidEduardo said:
The Philadelphia radio metro is growing by about 1.3% a decade. It is projected to increase from 5.164 million in 2010 to about 5.223 million in 2015, for a 5-year growth of 1% in 5 years. By 2020, which is enormously hard to project, the decade may show something like 1.8% growth.

Typo... both increases should be 1.8%. Somehow I typed a "3" for the first "8."
 
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