CC Rumors Are Flying

[jwmarsh]

What effect will this have if they are going to try and relocate 102.3 to allow an increase in power to 102.5?

 

[secondchoice]

Moving 102.3 any great distance will be difficult with WGMG 102.1 to the East:

http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WGMG&service=FM&status=L&hours=U

and WWST 102.1 to the North:

http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WWST&service=FM&status=L&hours=U

Of course they can not go too far away and keep the City of License Buford another issue.

 

[Rick Rose 2.0]

Could WLKQ move to another frequency to allow 102.5 to expande.

Many cases that station that is listed on the FCC database is not the station a translator is used to rebroadcast.

 

[secondchoice]

Possibly, I do not have a computer program like the big dog engineers do, so any guess I would make would not be valid. If the money is available, I have heard of multiple stations "moving" like the 100.1 Lexington (Winchester) KY "crowd in" in the early to mid 1990's. The stations that moved were paid big bucks and WIKI even got a new tower and "better" antenna site out of the deal.

 

[RoddyFreeman]

What effect will this have if they are going to try and relocate 102.3 to allow an increase in power to 102.5?

That's being discussed between Radio One and Davis Broadcasting. R1 wants to make 102.5 a full C. To do that, 102.3 would have to move farther from Atlanta. Speculation is part of the incentive to Davis is Radio One would give him its Charlotte cluster, which he used to own.

From what I've been told, this is in a preliminary stage, and there are "many moving pieces."

 

[jabba17]

Moving 102.3 any great distance will be difficult with WGMG 102.1 to the East:

http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WGMG&service=FM&status=L&hours=U

and WWST 102.1 to the North:

http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WWST&service=FM&status=L&hours=U

Of course they can not go too far away and keep the City of License Buford another issue.

Looks like they could move north but not east (and that would help 102.5 less anyway)....BUT...

You also have WAZX-FM 101.9 as a second-adjacent.

WAZX-FM has a CP to go from 3200W@453' HAAT to 350W (yes, three hundred fifty watts) at about triple the HAAT at 1344'.  That will get a listenable signal into Sugar Hill and Cumming, maybe Suwanee and Johns Creek, and maybe other points south and west.  Tower location is moving from the southernmost section of the White-Habersham county line to near the triple point of Hall, White, and Lumpkin counties--about 12 miles west and a few miles south.  That could be in the way of WLKQ moving due north (not sure how much space exists today or under the CP). 

WLKQ could move north about 15 miles (assuming power and HAAT stay the same) and still city-grade Buford.  Coupled with that Stone Mountain translator, that would get Davis most if not all of the east side Latino market, from Cleveland to Chamblee.  IF they have room to do it. With the translator the easier approach all around might just be to cut power and keep WLKQ where it is.

 

[Mr_Winston-Salem]

WAZX moved about a month or two ago. It's a much better signal now.

It's hard to move 102.3 WLKQ anywhere. I guess WLKQ could be hidden deep into the mountains of North Carolina at 97.7 and sold to a church? ;D Atlanta almost has a ring of 102.3's around it from Roanoke to Rome to Milledgeville and is between C1 102.5s in Birmingham and Greenville.

 

[jwmarsh]

What effect will this have if they are going to try and relocate 102.3 to allow an increase in power to 102.5?

That's being discussed between Radio One and Davis Broadcasting. R1 wants to make 102.5 a full C. To do that, 102.3 would have to move farther from Atlanta. Speculation is part of the incentive to Davis is Radio One would give him its Charlotte cluster, which he used to own.

From what I've been told, this is in a preliminary stage, and there are "many moving pieces."

The current distance between the transmitter sites of 102.3 and 102.5 is 39 miles. If 102.5 wants to become a full C that distance would need to be 103 miles. With that being the case could 102.3 still cover the Hispanic community?

 

[RoddyFreeman]

What effect will this have if they are going to try and relocate 102.3 to allow an increase in power to 102.5?

That's being discussed between Radio One and Davis Broadcasting. R1 wants to make 102.5 a full C. To do that, 102.3 would have to move farther from Atlanta. Speculation is part of the incentive to Davis is Radio One would give him its Charlotte cluster, which he used to own.

From what I've been told, this is in a preliminary stage, and there are "many moving pieces."

The current distance between the transmitter sites of 102.3 and 102.5 is 39 miles. If 102.5 wants to become a full C that distance would need to be 103 miles. With that being the case could 102.3 still cover the Hispanic community?

I would doubt it. With Radio One rumored to be giving Charlotte back to Davis as part of this, perhaps the deal would be to shut down 102.3. I spoke with Greg Davis about a month ago, and he said everything is too preliminary for him to comment. So that indicated something is happening. And I also heard about this from Radio One in both Atlanta and Charlotte. So who knows?

 

[amos]

perhaps the deal would be to shut down 102.3.

what about if R1 kept 102.3 and 102.5 as a simulcast? as owner of both would there be any waiver of interference that would help 102.5 upgrade?

or would the full C upgrade be too much of an improvement to keep 102.3 on at it's present location?

 

[ShawtyBlack_ATL]

perhaps the deal would be to shut down 102.3.

what about if R1 kept 102.3 and 102.5 as a simulcast? as owner of both would there be any waiver of interference that would help 102.5 upgrade?

or would the full C upgrade be too much of an improvement to keep 102.3 on at it's present location?

Radio One also has 102.9.

 

[jabba17]

perhaps the deal would be to shut down 102.3.

what about if R1 kept 102.3 and 102.5 as a simulcast? as owner of both would there be any waiver of interference that would help 102.5 upgrade?

or would the full C upgrade be too much of an improvement to keep 102.3 on at it's present location?

Radio One also has 102.9.

The translator doesn't count--translators have to accept interference but can't cause any of their own. Considering how bad that translator is already, R1 would probably take it dark if it would help a 102.5 upgrade.

A bigger concern would be WDUN-FM, also at 102.9, as a second adjacent to WPZE.

 

[carolinaradio]

GST needs to be on 105.3, put El Patron on a HD signal, and put it on 92.3.

 

[secondchoice]

Could WGST end up on 96.1? WSB needs a challenge that is not "signal challenged".

 

[jabba17]

GST needs to be on 105.3, put El Patron on a HD signal, and put it on 92.3.

WBZY + Art Sutton's Suwanee translator at 93.5 (http://transition.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/fmq?list=0&facid=138393 ) would cover pretty much the whole market, except for Walton County, south Barrow, west Forsyth, north Cherokee and Bartow, and east Newton.

http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WBZY&service=FM&status=L&hours=U
http://maps.google.com/?q=http://tr...CA&freq=93.5&contour=60&city=SUWANEE&state=GA

 

[jabba17]

Another plan could be to put WGST on 105.7 AND 96.7 AND the 92.3 translator, moving Wild to 105.3.

 

[carolinaradio]

OR (I don't know if this has been thrown around)....if WGST went to 105.3, how about El Patron goes to 96.7 so it's not just stuck on a translator? Or is the 96.7 too important to WiLD?

WGST should have been put on FM the day after WSB went to FM. What was wrong with CC?!

 

[jabba17]

WGST on 105.3 would also be stronger on the south and west side, where WSBB is weak (for now). It also might have better building penetration intown.

 

[trusty]

WGST should have been put on FM the day after WSB went to FM. What was wrong with CC?!

You still thing GST is still trying to compete with WSB? They gave up years ago. The only reason GST grabbed any kind of an FM signal was so it wouldn't lose Rush.

 

[secondchoice]

WGST should have been put on FM the day after WSB went to FM. What was wrong with CC?!

The only reason GST grabbed any kind of an FM signal was so it wouldn't lose Rush.

IIRC Rush's distributor is owned by CC owner of WGST.

There is a billing$ math / money "rule" that will come into play:

In total sales (company wide syndication sales and Atlanta billings), if CC can make more money with WGST on a good FM signal (96.1, 94.9 or 105.3) then WGST gets one of those signals. Cox used that "rule" when they put WSB on 95.5.