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Getting back to the topic at hand (kind of) Hardy is very solid on air and has this personality to him that makes him sound like a regular guy who just landed in radio because there is nothing else to do, that is why he is interesting. Eddie webb is a completely different story, he didn't fit the WAAF mold, not a whole lot of opinion, and just stuck to reading liners, hardy has much more personality than him. I think most of the regular jocks over at wbcn are very good at what they do, but the station has a little trouble with finding an identity withint he market, once they find it again, it will be successful. I really hope BCN' pulls out of this mess, because when the station sounds solid, there is no other alternative to it in the boston area.
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i agree, also i don't think WBCN's problem is the people in the afternoon and night shifts i think the most obvious problem they went from having THE morning show to having THE WORST morning show!
Don't get me wrong after a couple of weeks DLR wasn't as bad (as he was at first) but he was not Stern plain and simple. he was also was not what WBCN listeners would like. maybe a different station he would have done better but trying to follow in Sterns place..nope.
And it's not the fault of WBCN's local management. they have little or no control over what the company wants to do or play. What they want is the same station over and over and over to save cash on talent. it's the usual corprate MCradio BS.
it will be interesting to see if O&A fails because it is too watered down or if CBS will run for the hills the minute some nutball group complains about them.
but if all else fails they (CBS) could try Sammy Hagar it worked for Van Halen.......... :-\
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yeah why not......wait who is the lead singer for VH now ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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This bickering is ridiculous. So unnecessary. Reason enough to stay away. I will say this though, I don't believe Nik has any reason to defend himself. Like his style or not, he is known for his strong showing at WBCN during his time served. He was a strong personality, interactive, even compelling at times. I mean no disrespect when I say this but Hardy lacks edge. (On a sidebar RobbyRoadsteamer buried him during his appearances). Perhaps this is what Eddie Webb suffered from. I don't recall. I remember him being pretty good. Then he was gone. Nik had being a Bostonian in his favor. By and large, unknowns have a huge uphill climb here. Many should look to someone like Chuck Nowlin--funny, smart, witty, and to the point. Pretty no nonsene.
This bickering is ridiculous. So unnecessary. Reason enough to stay away. I will say this though, I don't believe Nik has any reason to defend himself. Like his style or not, he is known for his strong showing at WBCN during his time served. He was a strong personality, interactive, even compelling at times. I mean no disrespect when I say this but Hardy lacks edge. (On a sidebar RobbyRoadsteamer buried him during his appearances). Perhaps this is what Eddie Webb suffered from. I don't recall. I remember him being pretty good. Then he was gone. Nik had being a Bostonian in his favor. By and large, unknowns have a huge uphill climb here. Many should look to someone like Chuck Nowlin--funny, smart, witty, and to the point. Pretty no nonsene.
I agree with you on the bickering and apologize for any part I may have played in it. It's tough when people won't reveal themselves and attack those of us who use an identifying name - Varulven being the name of my 30 year old record label.Re: Chuck Nowlin, good guy, good jock. I just find both Chuck and Carter Alan too laid back. They would be great on Magic 106.7. Personally I think the Charles Laquidara/Harvey Wharfield/Dale Dorman/Parenteau persona works better on classic rock. Upbeat and funny in their frivolity. As humorous as both Chuck and Carter try to be, their humor falls flat. They are, after all, serious types. Carter is a great music director - and his voice is better suited to another style of music - even BCN in its underground days. It just doesn't flow well with Led Zep's Black Dog or Revolution by The Beatles.Syndication could work well for WBCN. There's lots of talent available elsewhere since they haven't been able to nurture their own since the days of Max/Charles/Hadges/Parenteau/Shelton/Jerry Goodwin, etc. etc.
Dale dorman better suited for classic rock than chuck or carter? well then....interesting. Joe you've been attacking chuck and carter for years now...why? Both of those talents are considered among the best in the country. i think it might say something when One of thsoe guys you are talking about has been ont he air at the same station for 15 years now? and the other having a career that spans nearly 25 years in boston rock radio (maybe more, i could be wrong). Sorry ZLX or any other station in this market isn't playing any of the music your record label recorded, but taking potshots at great air personalities makes you sound like a bitter old man...oh waitVarulven said:
Travis, what you have written is an attack. What I have written about Carter and Chuck is responsible journalism. I have stated plainly and clearly that they are very good at what they do. That is not an attack.It is a criticism that their voices are not suited to Classic Rock radio. Harvey Wharfield was a much better jock, he is just high maintenance. Former GM Jerry Charm wanted Low Maintenance and went with Chuck Nowlin.Those are facts - not attacks.This is why XM and SIRIUS are finding audiences. This is why Satellite radio is now loaning its talent to stations like WBCN.You don't have to fly off the handle just because I made an objective statement. And since someone is negotiating to buy the Carter Alan/Dinky Dawson book off my eBay site - I'm a bigger Carter Alan fan than you.The more books of his I can sell, the more I love the guy! It's capitalism at its purest.I sell the books, Carter's partner ships 'em, and we all make money. What's wrong with that?
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Joe, you are in no position to determine whether or not other people are engaging in "attacks" based on your history here.Varulven said:
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Nik2.0
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No Joe thats your biggest problem, all you have stated is our OPIINION based on your own agenda, it is not "responsible journalism" to promote people you like and have personal relationships with (WArfiled being the most obvious example) while decrying those who you're not a fan of personally and stating your opinion as fact, its really that simple. The guys you've mentioned? Max/Charles/Hadges/Parenteau/Shelton, they are all jocks whose prime was literally 30 years ago, they are not the current standard bearers of what the archetype classic Rock jock should be, Carter and Chuck are more the standard in terms of delivery, of what traiditonal classic rock jocks sound like. Neither of them sound anything like Magic 106.7 especially Carter you're just dead wrong. I say this as someone who currently works for a classic rock station (WARW, Washington Dc) in market number 8, it's not my opinion, it is my expertise as someone who currently works for a classic rock station telling you that your assessment of Chuck and Carter is just plain off the wall. As I recall Harvey Warfield's delivery was never particularly upbeat or very compelling when he was at WZLX, that doesn't mean to say I think he was a bad jock, good set of pipes but that is all I really remember meaning nothing really jumped out that i would remember. You will of course disagree with everything ive said becuase you're programmed to do just that but the truth is that Chuck has been in that station, IN THAT SHIFT for more than ten years now, obviously there is a disconnect between your opinion, the opinion of the public at large, becuase he is still there despite what you think of his delivery. ;D
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OOPs that would be YOUR opinion. ;D
You people are ridiculous, but here goes:1)Hiding behind a screen name of "Varulven", the company I established in 1969! The only thing that proves is what Nik said - I'm old! (My birthday was yesterday! Same day as Doug Mascott's girlfriend Linda. A month and five days behind Mr. Program Director's birthday! HA HA HA!!!) It's funny how people say I hide behind "Visual Radio" or "Varulven" as screen names - and those pointing the finger are...Big Bunny and Coolidge? Please! 2)RE: Mr. Wharfield Nik, you are SO out of touch (to quote you). I think Harv is a great talent - but that doesn't mean we didn't have knock-down-drag-outs. Meaning - I didn't think carts flying at the heads of interns was very kosher. Like I said, Harv is high maintenance, but a great talent. We disagreed on many things - but he is one of the better voices and attitudes on Boston radio.3)Nik points out that some of the best on-air talent was 30 + years ago. Yeah, it's sad that 30 years from now Nik Carter won't be lamented as Parenteau, Shelton, Sartori, Laquidara and other greats are today. It has NOTHING to do with their age, and everything to do with the fact that they had great delivery.Sorry, Nik, I'm not trying to "tweak" you here, every time I've tuned in to your show you were just plain dull.Not that I admire Howie Carr and his "dubbow you are Kay-Oh" lack of elocution, but the guy is FUNNY and does know how to laugh at himself and hold an audience. Even if it's the same old same old, he has little or no competition and was never worried about Nik Carter or Neanderpaul as far as competition goes.And say what you will, whether it be music or talk radio it is all about grabbing an audience. RKO is so desperate they need the Red Sox to pull them out of the hole.
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2)RE: Mr. Wharfield Nik, you are SO out of touch (to quote you). I think Harv is a great talent - but that doesn't mean we didn't have knock-down-drag-outs. Meaning - I didn't think carts flying at the heads of interns was very kosher. Like I said, Harv is high maintenance, but a great talent. We disagreed on many things - but he is one of the better voices and attitudes on Boston radio. Joe I dont know the man, met him once when we were both doing remotes from Fenway one day he for WZLX, I for WFNX, I know nothing about him so whether he is high maintainance or not is neither here nor there and typifies your inability to stay on topic. I said the guy had a greatt set of pipes for classic rock but other than that I cannot remember one thing that made him stand out to me, period. Again that does not make him a bad jock it just doesn't make him a great and missed personality, in fact YOU are the only one here who brings his name up mostly because youre still friends with him and its well documented that your politics (both in the personal and the political sense) color every opinion you have, that is not up for debate, it's fact. Iou say my show was dull,......you didnt even listen since the one thing you harp on is the fact that i had a feature that dealt with Bi sexual women which you to this day still mis=quote by calling it a lesbian feature which makes it apparant that you are incapable of seeing antything but the way YOU see the world.3)Nik points out that some of the best on-air talent was 30 + years ago. Yeah, it's sad that 30 years from now Nik Carter won't be lamented as Parenteau, Shelton, Sartori, Laquidara and other greats are today. It has NOTHING to do with their age, and everything to do with the fact that they had great delivery. I was not talking about their age but their day has come and gone, period. and again YOU are the only one lamenting ANY of the jocks that you mentioned with the possible exception of Charles, There is not one person who has joined your chorus of YEAH BRING BACK PARENTEAU, nobody misses him and it has nothing to do with his being a convicted felon, but NO ONE WAS LISTENING TO HIM, he was getting his ass HANDED TO HIM by everyone he competed with, chiefly Opie and Anthony but he had no listeners, thats fact which is why i was brought in in the first place. Shelton? always mediocre, period, no voice, blabbered on about nothing IN MY OPINION; and very difficult to work with because he's burnt bridges everywhere he's gone including BCN, ZLX and even BOS.........Maxanne Santori has to be about 60 as well and although age is not the main determining factor the truth is that no one wants to hear someone that age pntificate about Disturbed or Korn etc. Parenteau's problem wasnt that he was old, his problem was that he literally had not changed his act in twenty years and it was dated and just bad, period. So I walked into afternoons 4.5 points behind O and A because of Parenteau had been hemmoraging ratings for years, unlike you Joe I know what the ratings are becuase being in radio i actually see them. You're probably right 30 years from now people may not sit on chat boards and lament my not being on WBCn anymore but the thing that you dont grasp is that IM OK WITH THAT, but you should know, being someone who is nothing more than a fraction of a footnote in Boston rock history yourself and please dont waste our time talking about how if you do a google search six hundred thousand entries come up about Joe Viglione, you're probably correct about that. Then again if I sat home and just published blog after blog, and page after page about myself I too could flood the internet with me "achievements" I dont care about that crap, I dont have to, Im on the air. PS " Nya nya nya nya ya nya" Excellent suggestion Lucy! 8) 8)
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