Channel 1023 now "The River"

[davideduardo]

Re: La Preciosa 102.3

> > Bob consultas BMP in the US, and Clear Channel in Mexico
> > (Clear controls Grupo ACIR there). In Mexico, they do AC
> and
> > Pop as Spanish music formats... both of which are pretty
> > dead formats in the USA among Hispanics. The other Mexican
>
> > FMs Bob deals with are English music formats.
>
> The U.S. spanish pop stations will have an interesting time
>
> next year. When you think that all their major artists have
>
> already released product this year. Are there any Reik's,
> Yuridia's
> and RBD's out there for next year? Let's hope, at least for
> them,
> that La Oreja de Van Gogh, Enrigue Iglesias, Mana and
> Belinda have stellar
> comebacks. Or, that there are more break out artists.

There are only a couple of pop stations left. Mostly, they are the Superestrella format from Entravision and Digital from BMP. Univision is pretty much out of it except for one market. And Superestrella is a pop ballad format, that gets most of its numbers formt he morning show, not from music. I do not see this format doing much, as reggaetón has taken over the place pop once occupied.
>

 

[eepstein]

KNLE has a metrowide signal in austin and is a 24/7 Christian Music station. 92.1 Klove covers more than half of austin (mainly north Austin to Georgetown). 99.3 has now popped up covering the eastern metro area.

I do believe Austin is a mostly consevative religious town, but certainly not enough to support FOUR christian stations. Spanish is certain on this frequency.

> > Austin's first 24/7 full market Christian AC
>
> It's actually a pretty smart move. 102.3 hasn't been doing
> anything since the staff got run off in 1992-93. KLTY in
> Dallas has done very well for Salem. It's an untapped
> psyche-graphic for Austin radio, KNLE notwithstanding.
> People who buy christian radio don't look at ratings. The
> religion industry is actually pretty big. It's a virgin
> market. for CC, and could open up a whole new cookie cutter
> star system format for our favorite media congolmerate.
>

 

[gibby]

Re: La Preciosa 102.3

> There are only a couple of pop stations left. Mostly, they
> are the Superestrella format from Entravision and Digital
> from BMP. Univision is pretty much out of it except for one
> market. And Superestrella is a pop ballad format, that gets
> most of its numbers formt he morning show, not from music. I
> do not see this format doing much, as reggaetón has taken
> over the place pop once occupied.

And interestingly Superestrella's PD, Nestor Rocha, claimed in
an interview on another web related spanish-language radio site
that he introduced Don Omar to the East Coast. I think DJ
Kazzanova and host of other outlets would probably have something
to say about that. Also it's a little bit bravado and wishful
thinking on his part.

On a unrelated topic....i created a fictious spanish-language
radio station and would like to get a professional opinion. I'd
welcome the opportunity to send you the link to the station off
this board. Qué opinas?

 

[Mediafrog]

Re: Cover up?

> It looks like there is a sneak play to go to the satellite
> Preciosa format. And it will be right after New Year´s day.

As I noted previously on this board, it would be full circle for the 102.3 frequency, which was originally Spanish language KMXX, signing on in 1976 as a 748 watt Class A.

 

[davideduardo]

Re: La Preciosa 102.3

> > There are only a couple of pop stations left. Mostly, they
>
> > are the Superestrella format from Entravision and Digital
> > from BMP. Univision is pretty much out of it except for
> one
> > market. And Superestrella is a pop ballad format, that
> gets
> > most of its numbers formt he morning show, not from music.
> I
> > do not see this format doing much, as reggaetón has taken
> > over the place pop once occupied.
>
> And interestingly Superestrella's PD, Nestor Rocha, claimed
> in
> an interview on another web related spanish-language radio
> site
> that he introduced Don Omar to the East Coast. I think DJ
> Kazzanova and host of other outlets would probably have
> something
> to say about that. Also it's a little bit bravado and
> wishful
> thinking on his part.
>
> On a unrelated topic....i created a fictious
> spanish-language
> radio station and would like to get a professional opinion.
> I'd
> welcome the opportunity to send you the link to the station
> off
> this board. Qué opinas?


Sure... send the link to th ee mail in my profile.
>

 

[Kent]

Re: Cover up?

> Mega is not working, billing wise, anywhere. They are off
> 75% in both Miami and Houston, and losing money. Albuqueque
> is changing format soon. Denver is questionable, as no
> revenue.

Is the rumor that both Houston and Albuquerque will be flipping to La Preciosa?

> The only option for CCU in Austin is Preciosa. The only know
> how to do two formats, and only make money on one of them.
> Interestingly, the succe3ssful format is a rip off and a
> copy. The unsuccessful one they invented insofar as using it
> in the continental US.

Personally, I don't think this announcement of The River coming to Austin is a smokescreen. However, I could see La Preciosa coming to Austin on another one of CC's frequencies, like 105.9, in the not-too-distant future. Any thoughts on whether La Preciosa will arrive in San Antonio? I know Recuerdo was tried in San Antonio and got decent 12+ numbers but had a relatively old audience that was a tough sell.

 

[davideduardo]

Re: Cover up?

> > Mega is not working, billing wise, anywhere. They are off
> > 75% in both Miami and Houston, and losing money.
> Albuqueque
> > is changing format soon. Denver is questionable, as no
> > revenue.
>
> Is the rumor that both Houston and Albuquerque will be
> flipping to La Preciosa?

Nope. Houston appears to be sticking to the format, as they may believe it is in early growth stages now. ABQ has so few Spanish speakers that they may do some other version of the format.

>
> Personally, I don't think this announcement of The River
> coming to Austin is a smokescreen. However, I could see La
> Preciosa coming to Austin on another one of CC's
> frequencies, like 105.9, in the not-too-distant future. Any
> thoughts on whether La Preciosa will arrive in San Antonio?
> I know Recuerdo was tried in San Antonio and got decent 12+
> numbers but had a relatively old audience that was a tough
> sell.

It was not done like the LA Recuerdo, which has an average age of 35.
>

 

[jras20]

Wow, well I didnt think they would shift that quick, I was really hoping for a real rock station that would take on 101X gues that wont happen.
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[RFMan]

> KNLE has a metrowide signal in austin and is a 24/7
> Christian Music station. 92.1 Klove covers more than half
> of austin (mainly north Austin to Georgetown). 99.3 has now
> popped up covering the eastern metro area.
>
> I do believe Austin is a mostly consevative religious town,
> but certainly not enough to support FOUR christian stations.
> Spanish is certain on this frequency.


This doesn't smack of a smokescreen type change. Usually that happens without press releases. There have already been several on The River. Since 2 of the signals you mention above are non-comm's and 99.3 really doesn't have much of a signal, I think that 102.3 won't have to worry about the competition too much. Who knows? This could be a good move. Not what I would choose, but when is it ever.....


102.3 The River Becomes Austin’s First FM Contemporary Christian Station



Family Oriented Programming to Include Positive Music
-featuring artists from Steven Curtis Chapman and Mercy Me to Amy Grant


Austin, Texas, December 16, 2005 –[KPEZ] today announced the launch of Austin’s first contemporary Christian station on the FM frequency, “The New 102.3 The River.” The River began flowing at noon with continuous Christmas music to air through Christmas Day. On December 26, The River will provide positive music and family safe entertainment with songs that inspire from artists such as Steven Curtis Chapman, Newsboys, Jars of Clay, and Mercy Me.

“We are thrilled to bring this unique blend of positive entertainment to Austin and plan to reflect the needs and wants of our community,” said Mac Daniels, Regional Vice President of Programming for Clear Channel Austin. “The Austin community deserves a station where the spirit will be celebrated year round and the reason for the holiday season will flow throughout the year on The River. Contemporary Christian music is one of the fastest growing music genres in the country. People are hungry for music that’s encouraging and uplifting—and that is safe for their entire family.” Live talent is expected on The New 102.3 The River in January.



“Good radio is built on a foundation of serving listeners and the community,” said Dusty Black, Regional Vice President for Clear Channel Southwest. “Our goal at 102.3 The River is to serve our listeners with entertainment that truly relates to all facets of their life, from their family life to their spiritual walk. If you have ever searched the dial for music that picks you up and makes you feel good—or music that really speaks to your life, you’re going to enjoy 102.3 The River.”

 

[MRD]

> I do believe Austin is a mostly consevative religious town,
> but certainly not enough to support FOUR christian stations.
> Spanish is certain on this frequency.

On what do you base your belief that "Austin is a mostly conservative religious town"? Those of us who know Austin also know that statement couldn't be further from the truth.

 

[HurricaneRun]

> > I do believe Austin is a mostly consevative religious
> town,
> > but certainly not enough to support FOUR christian
> stations.
> > Spanish is certain on this frequency.
>
> On what do you base your belief that "Austin is a mostly
> conservative religious town"? Those of us who know Austin
> also know that statement couldn't be further from the truth.
>

I think that Ethan meant to say "Williamson is a mostly conservative religious county", which would be correct.

HR

 

[eepstein]

what he meant

I believe that only the central most parts of Austin (downtown and the UT areas are less conservative). Most of the rest of the city, far north, south, east and to an extent west, is as conservative as Waco, Temple, or Lubbock. Thats why it always interesting how people say Austin is liberal when it only refers to probably less than an 1/8 of the population. Williamson, Hays, Bastrop counties are no more conservative than Travis country outside the city core.


> > > I do believe Austin is a mostly consevative religious
> > town,
> > > but certainly not enough to support FOUR christian
> > stations.
> > > Spanish is certain on this frequency.
> >
> > On what do you base your belief that "Austin is a mostly
> > conservative religious town"? Those of us who know Austin
>
> > also know that statement couldn't be further from the
> truth.
> >
>
> I think that Ethan meant to say "Williamson is a mostly
> conservative religious county", which would be correct.
>
> HR
>

 

[peppertree]

Re: Austin: Liberal???

Wrong! Pick up the Austin Chronicle and see how "Biblebelt" Austin is. Even in the Christian realm Austin is quite liberal. I am on the board of a church based interdenomonational and all but one or two of the directors are liberal polically and religously.

The Bible belt ends in Georgetown and does not start up until you are in San Marcos if you are on I-35.

Or as someone from the leftist persuasion has stated, "Austin is the liberal oasis in the middle of a conservative desert."



> I do believe Austin is a mostly consevative religious town,
> but certainly not enough to support FOUR christian stations.
> Spanish is certain on this frequency.
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[peppertree]

Here is the truth:

"Keep Austin Weird."

How many cities would embrace that statement to the point of putting it on bus transfers?


> On what do you base your belief that "Austin is a mostly
> conservative religious town"? Those of us who know Austin
> also know that statement couldn't be further from the truth.
>
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[peppertree]

Re: what he meant

Wrong!

I do not know of a single Republican judge in Travis County. Austin has not elected a Republican or conservative US Congressman since Texas entered the union. (A little bombast here, but there is a point).

Texas does not have party registration for voting (open primaries) so there is no statistic on party affiliation. I would guess that 80% of elected office holders are Democrat. The only Republicans would be from the extremities adjacent to neighboring counties.

How about the Austin-American Statesman?

Texas congress has in the past threatened to make Austin a Washington type district for the state legislature, to deny Austin a liberal Senator in the state senate.





> I believe that only the central most parts of Austin
> (downtown and the UT areas are less conservative). Most of
> the rest of the city, far north, south, east and to an
> extent west, is as conservative as Waco, Temple, or Lubbock.
> Thats why it always interesting how people say Austin is
> liberal when it only refers to probably less than an 1/8 of
> the population. Williamson, Hays, Bastrop counties are no
> more conservative than Travis country outside the city core.
>
>
>
> > > > I do believe Austin is a mostly consevative religious
> > > town,
> > > > but certainly not enough to support FOUR christian
> > > stations.
> > > > Spanish is certain on this frequency.
> > >
> > > On what do you base your belief that "Austin is a mostly
>
> > > conservative religious town"? Those of us who know
> Austin
> >
> > > also know that statement couldn't be further from the
> > truth.
> > >
> >
> > I think that Ethan meant to say "Williamson is a mostly
> > conservative religious county", which would be correct.
> >
> > HR
> >
>
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[peppertree]

Does this mean that Austin is not a "World Class" (music) city anymore? I remember those lectures from last year on Channel 102.3.

Rest In Peace-Channel 102.3-Austin's World Class Radio Station
Let us not forget Z-102, "Austin's only Classic Rock station," either.

If anyone wants to mourn, I have airchecks from both formats.

>
> Austin, Texas, December 16, 2005 –[KPEZ] today announced the
> launch of Austin’s first contemporary Christian station on
> the FM frequency, “The New 102.3 The River.” The River began
> flowing at noon with continuous Christmas music to air
> through Christmas Day. On December 26, The River will
> provide positive music and family safe entertainment with
> songs that inspire from artists such as Steven Curtis
> Chapman, Newsboys, Jars of Clay, and Mercy Me.
>
> “We are thrilled to bring this unique blend of positive
> entertainment to Austin and plan to reflect the needs and
> wants of our community,” said Mac Daniels, Regional Vice
> President of Programming for Clear Channel Austin. “The
> Austin community deserves a station where the spirit will be
> celebrated year round and the reason for the holiday season
> will flow throughout the year on The River. Contemporary
> Christian music is one of the fastest growing music genres
> in the country. People are hungry for music that’s
> encouraging and uplifting—and that is safe for their entire
> family.” Live talent is expected on The New 102.3 The River
> in January.
>
>
>
> “Good radio is built on a foundation of serving
> listeners and the community,” said Dusty Black, Regional
> Vice President for Clear Channel Southwest. “Our goal at
> 102.3 The River is to serve our listeners with entertainment
> that truly relates to all facets of their life, from their
> family life to their spiritual walk. If you have ever
> searched the dial for music that picks you up and makes you
> feel good—or music that really speaks to your life, you’re
> going to enjoy 102.3 The River.”
>
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[gallen]

Re: Austin: Liberal???

> Or as someone from the leftist persuasion has stated,
> "Austin is the liberal oasis in the middle of a conservative
> desert."

Actually, a friend of mine put it better:

Austin IS a liberal town...

...by Texas standards...

 

[gallen]

> Here is the truth:
>
> "Keep Austin Weird."
>
> How many cities would embrace that statement to the point of
> putting it on bus transfers?

Several other cities across the US, apparently.

http://www.keeplouisvilleweird.com/
http://www.keepportlandweird.com/
http://www.keepamarilloweird.com/
http://booksense-stores.booksense.com/images/nonbooks/01/00/FCNB14020001.JPG

Honestly, Austin was never that weird to begin with. It just seemed that way compared to Dallas or San Antonio.

Apparently, Amarillo did, too.

 

[intx]

Re: what he meant

Also, don't forget Travis County was the only county in the state to vote against the recent gay marriage ban. Austinites are, by and large, very liberal.

On a somewhat related note, the geniuses at CC should stop promoting Channel 1023 at the Trail of Lights. The banners were still up last night. Trail of Lights would be the ideal place to introduce people to this new frequency, esp. since they're playing holiday tunes now.

> Wrong!
>
> I do not know of a single Republican judge in Travis County.
> Austin has not elected a Republican or conservative US
> Congressman since Texas entered the union. (A little
> bombast here, but there is a point).
>
> Texas does not have party registration for voting (open
> primaries) so there is no statistic on party affiliation. I
> would guess that 80% of elected office holders are Democrat.
> The only Republicans would be from the extremities adjacent
> to neighboring counties.
>
> How about the Austin-American Statesman?
>
> Texas congress has in the past threatened to make Austin a
> Washington type district for the state legislature, to deny
> Austin a liberal Senator in the state senate.
>
>
>
>
>
> > I believe that only the central most parts of Austin
> > (downtown and the UT areas are less conservative). Most
> of
> > the rest of the city, far north, south, east and to an
> > extent west, is as conservative as Waco, Temple, or
> Lubbock.
> > Thats why it always interesting how people say Austin is
> > liberal when it only refers to probably less than an 1/8
> of
> > the population. Williamson, Hays, Bastrop counties are no
>
> > more conservative than Travis country outside the city
> core.
> >
> >
> >
> > > > > I do believe Austin is a mostly consevative
> religious
> > > > town,
> > > > > but certainly not enough to support FOUR christian
> > > > stations.
> > > > > Spanish is certain on this frequency.
> > > >
> > > > On what do you base your belief that "Austin is a
> mostly
> >
> > > > conservative religious town"? Those of us who know
> > Austin
> > >
> > > > also know that statement couldn't be further from the
> > > truth.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I think that Ethan meant to say "Williamson is a mostly
> > > conservative religious county", which would be correct.
> > >
> > > HR
> > >
> >
>

 

[sa_radio2]

Re: what he meant

Ethan,

Not sure how long you have been living in Austin, but it is apparent that you are not that familiar with it. You don't need a demographics study to see how liberal most of the population is compared to other cities here in Texas.

Having lived there before, I resent your assertion that Austin is “the heart of the bible belt”. Austin is a liberal and deep thinking city that happens to be located in a very conservative state. That’s not to say that Austinites aren’t faithful. Also, you have your pockets of conservative Christians in the central city. Even those conservatives are quite liberal compared to other conservative Texans and are somewhat tolerant of others who may not fall in line with their beliefs.