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Only warning since this thread is already devolving into personal political attacks and comments that are going to lead nowhere, it is obvious that this topic cannot be discussed by the majority of those in this thread. It continues to be a handful of people that are ruining it for everyone. Keep it polite or this thread will be closed.
 
ted chittenden said:
When I was a student at LMU during the early 1980s, I had a liberal history professor who I disagreed with on many issues that were discussed in class (I was a conservative back then). As I increased my participation in life, I came to understand that a lot of what this professor said was not "liberal" but quite factual and verifiably so.
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Can you give us an example?

I tend to be conservative and it bothers me that I hear so many anti-conservative statements with no specifics. I like reasonable discussion.

OTOH, maybe this is not the place for it so I'll rely on your discretion.
 
Don CT said:
in the 1930s Germans thought Hitler was a nice guy too.
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No, they did not think that Hitler was a "nice guy". They had enormous resentment towards the Allies' reparations demanded of Germany after The Great War, and found in Hitler a promise of "getting back". Hitler gave Germans things to hate, like the Allies, the Jews and even the retarded and the Romani and united them under a spirit of vengeance.

Hitler was the playground bully who could fight back at Germany's perceived enemies.

Comparing anything or anyone today, over 100 years after the end of The Great War, with Hitler and the social situation in post-war Germany in the 1930's is quite absurd.

There are plenty of translations of Hitler's radio speeches and, while horribly long at time, they were filled with "blame placing" on different national and ethnic groups.

Echoing Lance's note, this is still a radio and TV board, and, while Kirk was a radio "personality" or host, it is hard to keep discussion of the radio aspect away from pure partisan politics. Nobody should be shot because of their beliefs, however much each of us might be in disagreement with them.
 
davideduardo said:
No, they did not think that Hitler was a "nice guy". They had enormous resentment towards the Allies' reparations demanded of Germany after The Great War, and found in Hitler a promise of "getting back". Hitler gave Germans things to hate, like the Allies, the Jews and even the retarded and the Romani and united them under a spirit of vengeance.

Hitler was the playground bully who could fight back at Germany's perceived enemies.

Comparing anything or anyone today, over 100 years after the end of The Great War, with Hitler and the social situation in post-war Germany in the 1930's is quite absurd.
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Replace Hitler with our current leader and you will see some similarities in the timeline.

Listen to his speeches, it's all grievances about perceived enemies. We can bring it right back to Kirk, same formula. Promote hate make money.
 
crainbebo said:
Radio impact: a couple of hundred news/talk affiliates, and Salem itself, are now going to have to scramble and figure out how to replace 3 hours of programming. Because obviously, it would be disrespectful to have tons of guest hosts rotating on "The Charlie Kirk Show". I suspect some news/talkers will be switching to other Salem shows (like Dennis Prager or Hugh Hewitt), Fox Across America may get some new affiliates, and possibly Clay and Buck too.
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Kirk replaced Prager on the Salem network. That was already mentioned earlier in this thread by myself.
 
Don CT said:
Replace Hitler with our current leader and you will see some similarities in the timeline.
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No, you won't. Start with reading Mein Kampf, and then read some of his speeches made as he rose to power. Hitler was the product of a Germany that was being castigated far to greatly by the victors in The Great War to the extent that there was widespread poverty and nearly all monies had to go to the Allies. Germany was a severely oppressed nation, not the leader of the free world.
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Listen to his speeches, it's all grievances about perceived enemies. We can bring it right back to Kirk, same formula. Promote hate make money.
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That is all in your perspective. I see it differently. I won't get into the political aspect. But Kirk's main focus was showing younger Americans how to participate in the political process even in situations where they might be castigated for such views.
 
davideduardo said:
No, you won't. Start with reading Mein Kampf, and then read some of his speeches made as he rose to power. Hitler was the product of a Germany that was being castigated far to greatly by the victors in The Great War to the extent that there was widespread poverty and nearly all monies had to go to the Allies. Germany was a severely oppressed nation, not the leader of the free world.

That is all in your perspective. I see it differently. I won't get into the political aspect. But Kirk's main focus was showing younger Americans how to participate in the political process even in situations where they might be castigated for such views.
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Kirk was a maga republican, that's not a neutral get out and vote stance. He was against gun reforms and didn't care if little kids got murdered in school. Guess what, 3 were shot today in Denver.
 
wadio said:
David is a fair and balanced moderator on this forum. We're lucky to have him.
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Thanks for the compliment. Frank Berry asked me to co-moderate so that there would be equal "red" and "blue" perspectives, and that is what I try to do even today.

Personally, based on having lived and worked in extremely "difficult" political situations in places like Chile, El Salvador, Guatemala, Ecuador and even Argentina, I became a rather conservative on economics and the size of government and a liberal in the areas of social issues. That gives me a rather broad perspective and, sometimes, some strong feelings!
 
crainbebo said:
Radio impact: a couple of hundred news/talk affiliates, and Salem itself, are now going to have to scramble and figure out how to replace 3 hours of programming. Because obviously, it would be disrespectful to have tons of guest hosts rotating on "The Charlie Kirk Show". I suspect some news/talkers will be switching to other Salem shows (like Dennis Prager or Hugh Hewitt), Fox Across America may get some new affiliates, and possibly Clay and Buck too.

DavidEduardo's earlier post was right on track. Post #19
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Scott Jennings recently started hosting the 2pm hour (EDT), but they'll still need to find someone for Noon-2pm (EDT) unless Scott is willing to expand his show to all 3 hours.
 
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