Christmas is back

[beaun]

Q101.9, and Magic 95.5 have gone Chritmas and Bob Fm has their Christmas Channel again this year. Any other holiday flips so far?

 

[fredcantu]

An online "Christmas Channel?" Does that even count? You can find holiday music year-round on the web.

 

[Anonymouse]

An online "Christmas Channel?" Does that even count? You can find holiday music year-round on the web.

TuneIn actually has Bob's Christmas channel as 103.5 HD3.

 

[Krash Kelly]

Fred - I don't see why "BOB's Xmas Channel' wouldn't count. Just like BOB FM (and all of our sub-channels) it's 100% local and produced in-house.

 

[fredcantu]

I wouldn't call Bob FM 100% local and produced in-house.

It's a syndicated format concept that's been around for years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_FM
I'm sure it's customized for the market, but 100% local?

And how different is Austin's Bob Christmas Channel from... say... Sedalia, MO's Bob Christmas Player?

http://923bobfm.com/listen-live/christmas-player/

100% local? I don't think so.

 

[jras20]

An online "Christmas Channel?" Does that even count? You can find holiday music year-round on the web.

TuneIn actually has Bob's Christmas channel as 103.5 HD3.

There's no HD-3 on 103.5

 

[sdh483]

We've had Christmas music in Houston for over a week now on KODA 99.1. Way too early in my opinion.

 

[Anonymouse]

We've had Christmas music in Houston for over a week now on KODA 99.1. Way too early in my opinion.

Yep, stations have been flipping as early as October. This is ridiculous.

In December or maybe late November at the absolute earliest, sure it's okay. Maybe a day or two after Christmas as well but that might be cutting it too late.

But Christmas music should *not* be played on the radio in October.

 

[Krash Kelly]

I wouldn't call Bob FM 100% local and produced in-house.

It has been since Aug 20, 2004.

It's a syndicated format concept that's been around for years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_FM

Adult Hits is a format, BOB-FM is a brand. Jones/TM did offer a syndicated version of BOB FM for a time, however Austin was never associated with that

I'm sure it's customized for the market, but 100% local?

Yes, we are one of the most live and local stations in Austin - as is the majority of the Emmis Austin Radio cluster.

And how different is Austin's Bob Christmas Channel from... say... Sedalia, MO's Bob Christmas Player?

We may share a few titles, but otherwise you are comparing apples to oranges. They are quite different, give them a listen.

100% local? I don't think so.

100% local? I know so. And as an added bonus, the BOB which KBPA was named after is a real person.

 

[fredcantu]

Krash, I respect the work you put into KBPA and it's success in the Austin market. But after surfing the wiki list of Bob FM stations and hearing the same positioning, same irreverent imaging, same "we play anything" mantra and often the same red block logo on the web site, I just can't buy the claim that Austin's Bob FM is 100% local.

BTW-- We apparently have different definitions of syndicated. You referred to Dial's satellite version of Bob which was designated for smaller markets. Syndication is more than a network you carry on your air. I was talking about someone selling a format concept, i.e. name, positioning, liners, music and programming consultation, etc.

Best of luck to you in '13.

 

[MisterRadio]

I think that the definitions of live, local, syndicated, etc. have all changed in the radio biz over the last several years. Krash, I would have these questions for you: 1) Is the person who puts together your music logs in Austin? Does that person put those logs together for Austin only? 2) Are there DJ's for all your dayparts? Are they live or tracked? Are they all in Austin? How much control do they have over their "show"? 3) Is there an out of market consultant or group providing production elements, logos or programming guidelines?

I will certainly allow that Emmis probably has the most live local shows of all the groups in Austin, but I do think that people's standards have changed over time so I'm not always sure what that means.

 

[Kent]

BTW-- We apparently have different definitions of syndicated. You referred to Dial's satellite version of Bob which was designated for smaller markets. Syndication is more than a network you carry on your air. I was talking about someone selling a format concept, i.e. name, positioning, liners, music and programming consultation, etc.

If that's your definition of syndicated, at least 90% of what you hear on the radio is syndicated and has been for a long time.

 

[willdav713]

Fred - I don't see why "BOB's Xmas Channel' wouldn't count. Just like BOB FM (and all of our sub-channels) it's 100% local and produced in-house.

I just heard your ad for Bob-FM on KXBT a few hours ago.

I wish KGSR would flip to Austin's Greatest Hits.

After all when KUTX signs on they will also be somewhat of the same format as KGSR, from what I heard.

Krash, do you know KEYI's numbers and cume before the switch to BOB?

And is it possible you could do a 1969 9 @ 9?

 

[beaun]

back to the original thread, in Austin Spirit 105 has now flipped. That means Austin now has 2.5 stations, and San Antonio has 1.

 

[Anonymouse]

back to the original thread, in Austin Spirit 105 has now flipped. That means Austin now has 2.5 stations, and San Antonio has 1.

You're forgetting Magic (KSMG), I think I heard them play a Christmas song earlier.

 

[Kent]

As of last week, Magic wasn't all-Christmas, though it may have been occasionally adding Christmas tunes into the rotation. Cox is apparently not doing all-Christmas for an entire month on very many stations this year.

 

[saradio1]

back to the original thread, in Austin Spirit 105 has now flipped. That means Austin now has 2.5 stations, and San Antonio has 1.

IMO, one station is enough.

 

[daypart]

IMO, one station is enough.

This format is not about audience demand. It's about delivering an audience that is receptive to holiday advertising. It's a wonder every cluster doesn't have one.

 

[Kent]

This format is not about audience demand. It's about delivering an audience that is receptive to holiday advertising. It's a wonder every cluster doesn't have one.

All-Christmas certainly isn't about audience demand. I've always thought it was more about getting on every retailers radio so people were forced to listen to you, but I wouldn't be surprised if the sales staff sold it as you described.

However, I'm not surprised fewer stations are doing all-Christmas this year. Since multiple all-Christmas stations in a single market have been the norm the past 10-12 years, it's rare to find more than one station getting a significant gain. Most of the others hit low points.

 

[fredcantu]

I've always thought it was more about getting on every retailers radio so people were forced to listen to you..

I can't think of the last time I heard a business playing the radio for customers. Sometimes I hear it coming from the kitchen.