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They've already made changes in both Atlanta & Washington D.C., is Dallas next?
 
What about ABC Radio Networks over in Dallas?
Any news from that group?
:eek:It's not looking too damn good for the near future.
 
Dallas is next. I know of at least 5 people from Lamar that will be gone very soon.

Some sales... Some Programming... ALL not nice and underperforming people.

Karma is one bad dude.

That is too bad. Well really it isnt. Its their lazy fault that Citadel DFW is in this mess to begin with. Go sell something - don't blow off your day making promises you can't keep.

Mickey-D
 
Wow Mickey....pretty harsh. You might not like the way Citadel/ABC (or anyone for that matter) does business.....but we are talking about people losing their jobs. Really not something to take lightly or to throw accusations of laziness around like that.

IMHO that is ;D
 
Sorry man. This is real. I am not taking it lightly.

What goes around. Comes around. People get to comfy. Stations get to fat. Complacency kills. Lack of forward thinking and creativity will do you in.

reality.

Mickey-D
 
Let’s not forget the bloodbath at Clear Channel this past November. Dozens were put on the beach in a corporate move to make to company look better as they go private.
 
Does thie really come as a shock to anyone? Generally two months after newowners come in, its lay off time.
 
the sad thing is that we lost a really good guy in Tom Hunter and many others i didn't get to know that well, since I have only been there for a couple of months and work very early hours to see them, but from what the others told me, they were really good people.

Having just gone through this with ClearChannel in November and seeing this happen again so quickly is really sad to see in an industry where people want to have fun and be creative.

Good luck to you all and your families. These are really tough times.
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Tom was a good guy. So was Walt Troup.

Who else got the Axe on Lamar today? PLEASE tell me some of the bad people did too.

I had a list - I want to see if it was right.

Mickey-D
 
McD-LT said:
Tom was a good guy. So was Walt Troup.

Who else got the Axe on Lamar today? PLEASE tell me some of the bad people did too.

I had a list - I want to see if it was right.

Mickey-D
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So when you vomited "I know of at least 5 people from Lamar that will be gone very soon. Some sales... Some Programming... ALL not nice and underperforming people", and then went on to call them fat and lazy, you didn'treally know that. It was just wishful bile, right?
 
I think Mr. Mickey D chose the appropriate name to join our fun exchange. Now he may go back to the deep fryer and shake out another order of freedom fries.

I am sure he has worked in radio. He's probably still getting some mic time. Every time he works the drive-thru window.
 
no no no... not hardley...

just relax people.... I have worked in radio for many years... i just heard that there going to be some people blown out from Lamar and I was hoping it was the jerks not the good guys.

Troup was a good guy. I wish a bullet could have gone elsewhere.

I had a list of candidates and his name wasnt on it. Hunter was, because he had no clue what he was doing.

I am just curious who else got cut.
 
Sorry, no insight on the Citadel stuff (I usually find out AFTER you guys do anyway!)

Did want to chime in that, with CC's layoffs in November, CBS's in January, Citadel's Friday, and USA Radio Networks on Friday, is there anyone still gainfully and securely employed in DFW radio that's not in management or under some historic contract? This is about the worst I've seen ever, and factor in the annual October bloodbath at, um, a certain TV station/newspaper downtown, that's a lot of broadcast media people out on their duffs. And the smaller players have done their share lately and semi-lately as well...990, 1190, etc. Then again, Cumulus runs the 'employment opportunities' PSA of theirs relentlessly every day, at least on The Bone.

There's just not enough jobs in radio or TV here to put these folks back to work AND with a decent salary AND with some dignity and respect for what they know and where they've been. Now with inflation and a recession going on *secretly* behind the White House's back, how do you stay afloat? Been there many times myself, but this is especially one hell of a time to lose your job. I count my blessings every day...but can't help but worry and feel pretty rotten for a lot of talented people who didn't deserve the situation they're now in...and no "right" words to say or anything positive to share to give them some hope.
 
People get too comfy. Stations get too fat. Complacency kills. Lack of forward thinking and creativity will do you in.
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Creativity and thinking -- "forward" or any other kind -- are not assets for radio employees in this era of corporate ownership. Too often, those traits will mark you with a bulls eye when the orders for the next round of layoffs are sent down. Sadly, that talent for creativity and thinking probably grandfathered you into the new system at a higher salary than the current ownership has any intention of paying.

In its takeover deal with ABC, Citadel agreed to delay these moves until March 2008. The grace period is over, and one more Dallas cluster is being ushered into the world that CBS, ClearChannel and Cumulus employees have been complaining about for years.

But maybe, even with this fresh bit of evidence hitting his doorstep, Mark Davis will hop on the board and explain to us all how lax ownership limits (leading to the corporate takeover of the radio industry) have been for the best. And then he and David Eduardo can go bloat up on several more rounds of corporate kool-aid.

As someone else pointed out on this thread, there are far more unemployed radio workers in DFW than there are job openings. If you can't land on your feet in radio, then my advice is to get some kind of job outside of radio and then consider lending your talents to an independent news, sports or entertainment web site on the side. Or find an internet radio station that you can help out part time. These will be labors of love. But they will also inject momentum into corporate radio's competition. And more of us will get valuable training in delivering independent internet content.
 
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And then he and David Eduardo can go bloat up on several more rounds of corporate kool-aid.
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Hardly, These are not good developments, for whatever the reason. Anything that makes radio less interesting, entertaining or fun is bad... as simple as that.

Consolidation is not bad per se. In many other nations, it has been the reason behind more varied formats and has created a supply chain of formats. Many consolidators in the US did not see the programming advantages, and are going to suffere even more after all the expenses are cut and stations sound like a parade of iPods with antennas on them.

However, let's not forget that we have a bad economy, so some of the cost cutting is no different than that being done at GM, GE or any other company.
 
Hardly, These are not good developments, for whatever the reason. Anything that makes radio less interesting, entertaining or fun is bad... as simple as that.
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My apologies, David. I anticipated a different response from you. My bad.

Consolidation is not bad per se. In many other nations, it has been the reason behind more varied formats and has created a supply chain of formats.
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I can't speak for other radio environments in other countries. If you've witnessed markets that benefited from consolidation, then I have no basis to disagree.

But I think media consolidation here in the U.S. was a predictably harmful development. For those of us who have been skeptically watching it for the better part of two decades, we are now exactly where we thought we'd be.

For those who are interested, Ben Bagdikian first warned of the negative effects of media consolidation back in the 1980's in a book titled, The Media Monopoly:
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media/CommunCartel_Bagdikian.html

He's still on the case with The New Media Monopoloy:
http://benbagdikian.net/inde.htm

Bagdikian is a newspaper man. So his never devotes his analysis to radio. However, his basic case against media consolidation covers broadcast and print alike.
 
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