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ClassX going to next level!!

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Whiplash

A new stick that helps cover the market, and now a PD.

Lash To Program

SPRYEX Classic Rocker WMWX (CLASSX)/CINCINNATI brings aboard veteran programmer CHRIS LASH as PD.
Said Pres. BILL SPRY, "With over 30 years in the broadcast industry, he's going to make some serious noise in CINCINNATI, taking CLASSX to the next level!"
 
I agree that the new signall may not cover Cincinnati much at all but I am in the blue line. I can also get WMWX pretty well with a roof mounted antenna at the house which is out of the predicted coverage area for that station here in Grant County KY.
 
I live in far western Colerain TWP & commute to Forest Park. WMWX is pretty darn strong @ home and listenable (in the car) in Forest Park. I also have to go to Brookville, IN a lot. There, it is pretty much a blowtorch. I also get a fairly listenable WTTS, 92.3, Bloomington/Indy there, too.
 
When I compare WMWX to WMKV, WMWX is almost full quiet in stereo where as WMKV is noisy in stereo. I'm sure once 89.1 powers up WMKV will be non existent here.
 
Elephant said:
Where exactly inside this blue line do you live, microbob?

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM1339265.html

Not really a blowtorch and not close to covering the market. Is there another one to fill in the northeast corner? WMWX doesn't cover much either, but more power to ya!
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First of all, the link above does not lead to WMWX...it leads to something in Northern Kentucky. Second, looking at the FCC website, WMWX shows a License only. Unless the FCC website is wrong (rare, but it happens), WMWX has no CP to "go to the next level". Can anyone supply a link to the CP so I (we) can see just how promising this 'next level' will be? Inquiring minds want to know!
 
I've given Class X a listen numerous times when traveling down to Cin'ti on business. I find the music to be pretty unusual, obscure, and not always listenable. As a child of the 70s & 80s with a fair knowledge of what was played, I find that I can often listen to Class X for a half hour and not recognize nor appreciate a single tune. That music probably didn't get much air play back then - for good reason. I am sure that there are a few listeners who love the format, and respect their right to express that opinion. One could put on a selection of Chinese Acoustic Rap on the radio, and there would be at least one person who would rave about the music.

My answer to Class X's current music selection is to push the button while in Cin'ti and listen to 102.7. Here in Dayton, I tend to flip between 103.9 and 104.7. Fortunately, we all have the ability to select a radio station that we enjoy hearing!

I hope the new PD has the latitude and good sense to revamp the format to appeal to a broader listener base. Class X may well need it to survive.
 
Bob in Dayton, you're the man!!!

I know these guys don't like when someone tells them the truth, but there it is.

Look, I hope you guys have a great, successful ride with Class X. I just find it amusing that you think you're going to "make some noise" with this station (stations) with this obscure format full of stiffs and a PD who's never actually programmed in a large market competitive situation. I've listened and heard some great stuff. But then it's followed up by a song that barely cracked the Top 100. If that's what you guys want to do, more power to ya. But you're going to have a ton of button pushing and I don't think it's going to be very mass appeal. That's the way to build Time Spent Listening! Play what the people want to hear! You're going waaayyy too deep and obscure. You should play some of the tunes that the OLD 94.9 The FOX used to play, but they don't play on 92.5. Go to the playlist at yes.com for WDRV in Chicago and pick out the stuff The FOX doesn't play anymore. TONS of stuff. Just ONCE, I'd like to hear 92.5 play Blind Faith, Joe Cocker, The Band, Buffalo Springfield, and CSN tracks that are not played here anymore. And what about the Beatles? I NEVER hear the Abbey Road medleys anymore! Rubber SOul cuts like "I'm Looking Through You" or the deeper stuff on Sgt. Peppers. man they used to play some great stuff when the FOX first started back in '88. When was the last time you heard "Can You Hear me Knockin'?" by The Stones? More and more is coming to me, but this is getting too long.

Real radio stations do what they do and play what they play because it works. Anecdotal info from your firends who say "'EBN sucks! or The FOX sucks!", just isn't relevant. In fact, the latest PPM shows The FOX and 'EBN gaining tons of cume. Naybe you don't care about the ratings and who can blame you. But, it would sure be nice to look at the ratings page and see those call letters there because you cleaned it up.

I really hope you have success. But it;s not as easy as it looks.
 
Bob in Dayton, you're the man!!! 

I know these guys don't like when someone tells them the truth, but there it is.

Look, I hope you guys have a great, successful ride with Class X.  I just find it amusing that you think you're going to "make some noise" with this station (stations) with this obscure format full of stiffs and a PD who's never actually programmed in a large market competitive situation.  I've listened and heard some great stuff.  But then it's followed up by a song that barely cracked the Top 100.  If that's what you guys want to do, more power to ya.  But you're going to have a ton of button pushing and I don't think it's going to be very mass appeal.

"Good Lord ELEPHANT, you obviously don't listen to the station and are obviously not from Cincinnati and obviously don't know the market and obviously never listened to WEBN back in the 70's.  If you did you would certainly not have just put your foot in your mouth.  Have you ever even listener to Traditional AOR?  ClassX is an AOR station not a cookie cutter Classic Rocker."


  That's the way to build Time Spent Listening!  Play what the people want to hear!  You're going waaayyy too deep and obscure.  You should play some of the tunes that the OLD 94.9 The FOX used to play, but they don't play on 92.5.  Go to the playlist at yes.com for WDRV in Chicago and pick out the stuff The FOX doesn't play anymore.  TONS of stuff.  Just ONCE, I'd like to hear 92.5 play Blind Faith, Joe Cocker, The Band, Buffalo Springfield, and CSN tracks that are not played here anymore.   And what about the Beatles?  I NEVER hear the Abbey Road medleys anymore!  Rubber SOul cuts like "I'm Looking Through You" or the deeper stuff on Sgt. Peppers.  man they used to play some great stuff when the FOX first started back in '88.  When was the last time you heard "Can You Hear me Knockin'?" by The Stones?  More and more is coming to me, but this is getting too long. 

"Geez will you pleeeeez listen to the station and quit making a fool of yourself.  All of the stuff you just mention IS played ALL of the time on ClassX".


Real radio stations do what they do and play what they play because it works.  Anecdotal info from your firends who say "'EBN sucks! or The FOX sucks!", just isn't relevant.  In fact, the latest PPM shows The FOX and 'EBN gaining tons of cume.  Naybe you don't care about the ratings and who can blame you.  But, it would sure be nice to look at the ratings page and see those call letters there because you cleaned it up.

I really hope you have success.  But it;s not as easy as it looks.


"ClassX is not and can not compete with the big dogs.  ClassX is a non-com.  It's a different audience.  But ClassX CAN be a thorn in their side and they are.  Several major market stations have already stolen some of their liners, several local stations are adding music they've never played before because ClassX is playing it.  One station is making fun of ClassX on air because they were voted as Cincinnati's BEST Radio station in 2009 by City Beat.  You are right, ClassX has it all wrong.  CityBeat is wrong, all of the ClassX listeners are wrong and the 6.4 million web hits they got last month prove it."
 
OK Rocknuts! I'm from here. Lived my whole life here. You don't know what you're talking about. WEBN did not play 80s stiffs. When I listen to Class X, I hear 80s metal band rejects. Lonts of great electric piano. Major tune out.

If you're playing those songs, they must be when I'm home and out of signal range. Don't hear those tunes enough. Maybe that's the problem.

You are NOT a thorn in anyone's side. Don't pat yourself on the back. really. They don't even know you're there.

City Beat is a joke. Anti-establishment for the sake of being anti-establishment.

I will no longer offer you guys any constructiive criticism. You just don't get it.

Keep rockin' dude.
 
Elephant

So you don't like it. So be it. Good music is in the ears of the beholder. But ClassX DOES play many of the album cuts that the Wood's WEBN played and stopped playing when it was sold including those you mentioned. That's why people love it. As I recall WOXY also stepped out of cookie cutter central and started a whole new format and sound for Cincinnati. But it didn't do very well either, did it, Rain Man.

It's called INNOVATION. When I was young there was plenty of it. But it died with the Corporate takeovers. Now it's just "Play it safe radio". Cookie Cutter Central.
 
Before the last series of posts got pulled, I had asked Mr. Elephant to post his resume. I'm sorry to inform him that I've programmed several large stations, prior to going into ownership, building or owning six stations. Three which I'm happy to say I built with my own bare hands.

Following the death of my wife from cancer, I decided to come to Ohio and start over. And its been a great decision!

I do like "The Drive", WDRV so at least where on the same page on that. So give the old guy some time, before you bash. ClassX, and all non com's need to be different. With a great passionate staff of volunteers, the future is nothing but positive growth.

So please, if your going to armchair program, post details on your resume. But don't get yourself stuck in 500-1000 song corporate radio hell, with nothing but national music logs, on stations that have more salespeople than jocks. Like WOXY, gotta agree ClassX is and will continue to be innovative.
 
Just ONCE, I'd like to hear 92.5 play Blind Faith, Joe Cocker, The Band, Buffalo Springfield, and CSN tracks that are not played here anymore. And what about the Beatles? I NEVER hear the Abbey Road medleys anymore! Rubber SOul cuts like "I'm Looking Through You" or the deeper stuff on Sgt. Peppers. man they used to play some great stuff when the FOX first started back in '88. When was the last time you heard "Can You Hear me Knockin'?" by The Stones? More and more is coming to me, but this is getting too long.

To my Pachyderm friend,
it's so funny you mentioned some of these bands & songs here, if you'd have tuned in to ClassX at 2:17 today you would have HEARD "Can't You Hear Me Knocking" as well as Buffalo Springfield....either you're not paying as much attention as you say you are, OR you're being tongue-in-cheek? I think it's the "little boy in love" syndrome, you like someone & trying not to seem emotionally overwhelmed, & subject to ridicule by the "cool kids", you lash out at the one you like the most. It's okay, you can admit it if you like ClassX, we won't make fun of you, too much. It's just comical to see how everyone complains "no one plays THIS stuff anymore" get turned into "you're playing old stuff that no one plays" when it suits the mood.
Can't have it both ways pal, either you drink the stale unsweetened kool-aid of the "big boys" & smile as you choke it down, or you bite the bullet & take a swig of something different, and X marks the spot dude.
 
I feel sorry for those people that made the comments that Classx is not very listenable, that they go too deep, and play too many obscure tunes. You guys need to stay with the Fox and 'EBN just to get your daily fix of Free Bird and Stairway to Heaven.
As for Buffalo Springfield, Joe Cocker, the Stones, they're all in the playlist. When's the last time you heard anything completely new from some of the old artists? (Steve Miller, Dave Mason, etc.) Cincinnati, open up your ears! I'd rather hear new tunage than the same old same old!!!
 
Elephant said:
OK Rocknuts! I'm from here. Lived my whole life here. You don't know what you're talking about. WEBN did not play 80s stiffs. When I listen to Class X, I hear 80s metal band rejects. Lonts of great electric piano. Major tune out.

If you're playing those songs, they must be when I'm home and out of signal range. Don't hear those tunes enough. Maybe that's the problem.

You are NOT a thorn in anyone's side. Don't pat yourself on the back. really. They don't even know you're there.

City Beat is a joke. Anti-establishment for the sake of being anti-establishment.

I will no longer offer you guys any constructiive criticism. You just don't get it.

Keep rockin' dude.
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Hmmm...and I have lived in Cincinnati since 1988...TRIED many times to get into Clear Channel. Even though I have a day job in Audio Visual and I have been a volunteer at ClassX for 2 years now. I think I hear a hint of jealousy in your comments Elephant. What's the term? There's Definately an Elephant in the room, and in this thread.

Nice to know that we have folks at Clear Channel who are jealous...oh; and by the way if you actually LISTENED to the station; we play more than the so called "80s Metal Reject Bands" as you like to refer to them.... and even... dare I say? Progressive Rock in a 2 hour show!! Yeah, you read that right....where else are you going to hear old school Prog Rock, instead of the same old rehash of "Another Brick in the Wall" by Floyd....you DO know that they recorded music LONG before The Wall was released right? Oh that's right, you work for Clear Channel; so the only Pink Floyd album you are aware of IS "The Wall"...

Maybe I should stop now before I get myself into a hole. Obviously Elephant is Definately Behind The Wall because they aren't hearing anything I am saying....

Just nod if you can hear me


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Say what you want about a Non-Comm...we are real, and we aren't going away anytime soon.
As Ginny stated, maybe you would be better off sticking with your 3 tracks of Skynard, and Brick in the Wall by Floyd...but there is MORE to a Rock station then the same old songs played, rehashed, and packaged every stinking day.
 
Goodness, we seem to have touched a nerve with some folks. So the article is true...we're making noise. ;D

Elephant, I appreciate your comments, but it's kinda hard for me to respond when the songs you say you wished we played..we play, and the songs you say you wish we didn't play....we play cuz someone ELSE likes them. The only way you're going to hear a radio station that plays ONLY the songs you like is to tune into WiPOD.

All I really got out of this thread is that the big stations suck because they're establishment, and we and CityBeat suck because we're anti-establishment. Uhhh.....okay. I'd need to be a gymnast to follow that logic.

The station is there for folks who want to listen to it and check it out. I'll even be on there Monday afternoon at three if you want to hear me and critique. I welcome it...we can all always get better. However, if you're continuing to listen to a station that you don't like, then I would recommend ending the self-torture.
 
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