Clear Channel bloody Thursday

[TheBigA]

I have no evidence that they're using money from laid off employees to pay back their loan.

I have the evidence. But I've already said too much.

They can't fire their way to paying back their loan, or even making a small dent in it. Citadel already proved that.

 

[xmusicmatt]

The River has gone down the drain and should just pull the plug on themselves. Last night, Adam was voicetracked ..after a song played, he pipes in "107-5 The River" ..that's it. Another song played (Stereo Hearts) and they go directly in the "Furniture Light and Gallery" singing commercial. What a joke. This station might as well be 1000 watts on AM out in the middle of Nowheresville, USA.

If your going to settle for voice tracking .. at least do it right... Sounds like he tracked in the wrong part of the log and did not track going into the spot block ... Must been no one left in the building to teach him the Nexgen Voice Track module. :-/

 

[kr0nic]

The River has gone down the drain and should just pull the plug on themselves. Last night, Adam was voicetracked ..after a song played, he pipes in "107-5 The River" ..that's it. Another song played (Stereo Hearts) and they go directly in the "Furniture Light and Gallery" singing commercial. What a joke. This station might as well be 1000 watts on AM out in the middle of Nowheresville, USA.

If your going to settle for voice tracking .. at least do it right... Sounds like he tracked in the wrong part of the log and did not track going into the spot block ... Must been no one left in the building to teach him the Nexgen Voice Track module. :-/

Makes no sense to me anyway. If you layoff the night time jock to save money, why voice track local unless you're replacing him with another local jock. Why not just put one of those premium choice jocks in there like they did when they blew out Proud Mary on WNRQ.

 

[firepoint525]

I hardly ever hear VT-ing during late evening or overnight hours. Seems like they just "let the music play" during those hours, and I hardly ever hear a dj speak. Unless it is a station with some sort of syndicated program, like Delilah, etc.

 

[kr0nic]

CC is nothing if not transparent. Watch all those local eliminated positions - except traffic, probably the only true CC layoffs - return under different titles. New OM is building his own team.

 

[jojosunbeam1]

You can say it's just business. The pilgrims thought it was "just business" when they slaughtered Native Americans. The interesting thing to me is that many of the positions of the people blown out are open. So the new guy must be building his team. How is it "just business" that you fire employees that are performing well in the ratings? Can you not make up that salary in advertising based on the excellent ratings that Mary Glenn was pulling down? I will say that South Central did allow all of the jocks from Oldies cross the street without enforcing their non-competes. THAT was a business decision that also allowed that excellent staff to hold on to a job. I'm sure SC could have said you all signed non-completes.....sorry. They actually looked a the human element there. If I understand correctly, CC is holding each terminated employee to a 6 month non-compete. So what good is a contract when they can terminate you at any time and then tell you you can't work elsewhere? That should be illegal! It is sad what some will excuse by saying it's just business. There's no bitterness on my part from working at CC. I worked there when they seemed to have a little more sense. Business or not, people element aside, you would think that CC would want to do things to GROW their audience....to build up their stations. Taking out personalities that were doing great to replace them with a VT'er is not in the best interest of the station. I forgot, it's not about quality programming. It's just about bottom line $$$ at any cost. Put Seacrest on the River 24/7 with his stupid "sleeze" and call it a day. Wait, I shouldn't have suggested that. They might just do it!

 

[secondchoice]

I'm not a lawyer, non have I ever pretended to be one, but IIRC Tennessee is a right to work state. Unless they are still paying you, if you register with the unemployment office and draw benefits, and they sent your out to a "job interview" or you get a job offer, and you get that "job" then CC will have to sue you and the State Government. The State will back you up just to not have to pay your unemployment claim. It worked for me in GA, after a state employee explained what it would do to my previous employer's unemployment tax contribution rate by enforcing the non-compete.

 

[Radio456]

Absolutely right...They can't enforce a non-compete unless they are paying out your contract. If they aren't paying you, you have the right to work wherever you choose.

 

[70SaturdayNight]

They can't enforce a non-compete unless they are paying out your contract. If they aren't paying you, you have the right to work wherever you choose.

Even so, if the employer finds out you have a non-compete, and THEY don't know the law, they may be afraid to hire you.
I've seen it happen.

 

[jojosunbeam1]

I continue to be amazed! You would think that CC Nashville is A- a local yocal outfit or B- they are on the verge of being bankrupt. I'm flipping around the other evening on the way home and hear the new afternoon jock on WSIX say "Ryno has another chance for you to win at 7:05". I think to myself, no way! Sure enough, 7:05, Ryno, the long time afternoon jock on the River is on the Big 98. Stop and think of where this industry and radio in this city have gone. We are talking about two legendary stations, not just in Nashville but across the country. WSIX at one time was looked at as "the country station" in the US. The legend of Y107 is still talked about. Both of these stations sounded great and had engaging personalities that related to their audience. Now, we're down to this! Sadly this is the radio programming the audience has come to expect.

 

[TheBigA]

Sadly this is the radio programming the audience has come to expect.

I bet the WSIX listeners have no idea who Ryno is. All they care about is winning the damn contest. What's in it for me?

 

[olebud]

jojosunbeam1 sayid

The interesting thing to me is that many of the positions of the people blown out are open. So the new guy must be building his team. How is it "just business" that you fire employees that are performing well in the ratings? Can you not make up that salary in advertising based on the excellent ratings that Mary Glenn was pulling down

when radio was still a radio business, sure the new guy brings his own guys with him...he wants/needs folks loyal to him/her. But in today's BIG BUSINESS radio, there may not be new guys brought in to replace those released. There's a 'voice' in Oklahoma or somewhere who'll do V-T for many $$$ less a year than it costs to hire a real talent to work at it. When I was with CC I wasn't really a news person, but they used me for commercials, news and any other place I could fill in. THeir cost...my salary with the TN Radio Network.

 

[Tibbs4]

Well, from where I am standing, I see it as even worse. What does the ADVERTISER think. And that answer is this version of mass corp radio is offering a lot less for 'me.' All the well placed comments cannot replace the TRUTH. Radio on life support is it's own worst enemy. There will soon be no nose to cut off. Anyone wanna try to argue that and win?

 

[Tibbs4]

And, Buddy, my post was not a retort at you, sir. It was a combination of those prior. I am pretty sure no one wasting their time on this board can dare question you comments or integrity...except for Chris of course...

How do you get that shade of blue, btw? ;D

 

[TheBigA]

Well, from where I am standing, I see it as even worse. What does the ADVERTISER think.

The advertiser buys numbers. It's a business to the advertiser. In a way, advertisers have created what radio is now. And at clusters, it's not unusual for advertisers to buy time on several stations in the group, across formatic lines.

 

[olebud]

Tibbs....I can be questioned anytime...I've learned a lot from others over the years... for the colors, go to the tool line at the top here...and look for the change color and make your pick
And is it just me....but I NEVER stay on a station when they go to a commercial break. I'm not gonna be there for 4 to 9 minutes for what they're offering.
and in response to the BigA....do advertisers really think they're getting their moneys worth being lumped in with all those others? I doubt I'd spend a penny on it.

 

[TheBigA]

and in response to the BigA....do advertisers really think they're getting their moneys worth being lumped in with all those others?

As you can expect, advertisers have done studies on listeners staying with stations through long breaks, and the data shows that they do.

Given a choice between a spot between every song, and a couple long breaks, they prefer a couple of long breaks.

 

[olebud]

Big A writes

As you can expect, advertisers have done studies on listeners staying with stations through long breaks, and the data shows that they do.

I don't have as many years left as you young guys...I'm still not gonna sit through a long break for whatever they may offer. And I remember riding around when I was a teen and swapping from WKDA to WMAK when they'd go to a break....guess it's just me..

 

[TheBigA]

I don't have as many years left as you young guys...I'm still not gonna sit through a long break for whatever they may offer. And I remember riding around when I was a teen and swapping from WKDA to WMAK when they'd go to a break....guess it's just me.

That's funny! I think some of that happens, but what I've noticed is that a lot of stations run their breaks at about the same time. So you can switch stations, even change formats, but you'll probably hit some commercials. It's a necessary evil, and if you adjust your spots to attract listeners from a competitor, you'll probably lose them when you go to your break. Only a temporary victory.

For a lot of people, it's not the number of spots, but the products. If a commercial is for a product you're interested in, you'll pay attention even if it's the 9th spot in the break. Commercials are like marriage: You only hear what you wanna hear.

 

[ShadowB]

I'm with Buddy on this and I'm MUCH younger than he is! (haha) "Commercials are like marriage: You only hear what you wanna hear"...True But the same goes for research and studies.