"Clear Channel: iPhone Not a Competitive Threat"

[oaktree]

Here's what is not an astute statement, but merely fact:

"iPhone Not a Competitive Threat - Clear Channel"

Surely, there is more than one "Inside Radio" subscriber here besides me.

Anyone notice who OWNS "Inside Radio" and has for five years?

That's right ... CLEAR CHANNEL!

Now, what the heck would you EXPECT Clear Channel to say before the broadcasting masses it serves?

Remember: Clear Channel OWNS "Inside Radio".

Now, if that's not being a "company mouthpiece," I don't know what is.

Don't over analyze the facts. Just consider the source and the stupidity of it all.

Conglomeration has failed Clear Channel since 1996, now they are selling off. iPhones are more than a competitive threat. They are reality.

 

[R.F. Burns]

Clear Channel doesn't make telephones, Apple doesn't make radios (or produce radio programming). They DO distribute programming produced by others, including Clear Channel. Clearly, these are not competitive technologies. Duh!

Any entertainment device that allows you to listen to internet broadcasts, streaming music, or whatever is not broadcasting over the conventional commercial broadcast band, is a competitor to terrestrial radio.

When I'm listening to an MP3 player, internet stream or Satellite Radio channel. I'm NOT listening to a terrestrial radio station.

But radio today is not something you sit down and listen to all evening. It's a 15 minutes here, 30 minutes there device. If you're listening to your I-Pod all your waken hours that's another point. That means you don't participate in society or watch TV or read a paper and on and on. Listening to radio is only part of the normal day for people. The only difference between I-pods and CD Walkmen is that you can carry more music with you. In all those years people listened to their CD Walkmen but still found time to listen to radio. The same is true for most people today. The ratings prove that point.

 

[PocketRadio]

Clear Channel doesn't make telephones, Apple doesn't make radios (or produce radio programming). They DO distribute programming produced by others, including Clear Channel. Clearly, these are not competitive technologies. Duh!

Any entertainment device that allows you to listen to internet broadcasts, streaming music, or whatever is not broadcasting over the conventional commercial broadcast band, is a competitor to terrestrial radio.

When I'm listening to an MP3 player, internet stream or Satellite Radio channel. I'm NOT listening to a terrestrial radio station.

But radio today is not something you sit down and listen to all evening. It's a 15 minutes here, 30 minutes there device. If you're listening to your I-Pod all your waken hours that's another point. That means you don't participate in society or watch TV or read a paper and on and on. Listening to radio is only part of the normal day for people. The only difference between I-pods and CD Walkmen is that you can carry more music with you. In all those years people listened to their CD Walkmen but still found time to listen to radio. The same is true for most people today. The ratings prove that point.

"Bridge Ratings Audience Erosion Study 2006 - Q2 Update"

"In November, 2004, Bridge Ratings & Research released initial results from a multi-year-long Audience Attrition project. The results in that report reflected audience erosion from terrestrial radio due to generally less time spent with AM/FM radio and more time spent with a variety of digital media, including MP3 players (including iPods), Internet radio, satellite radio and Compact Disc."

http://www.bridgeratings.com/press_Where Are Listeners Going Update.04.07.2006.htm

Yea, the ratings sure do, Burns !

 

[R.F. Burns]

Clear Channel doesn't make telephones, Apple doesn't make radios (or produce radio programming). They DO distribute programming produced by others, including Clear Channel. Clearly, these are not competitive technologies. Duh!

Any entertainment device that allows you to listen to internet broadcasts, streaming music, or whatever is not broadcasting over the conventional commercial broadcast band, is a competitor to terrestrial radio.

When I'm listening to an MP3 player, internet stream or Satellite Radio channel. I'm NOT listening to a terrestrial radio station.

But radio today is not something you sit down and listen to all evening. It's a 15 minutes here, 30 minutes there device. If you're listening to your I-Pod all your waken hours that's another point. That means you don't participate in society or watch TV or read a paper and on and on. Listening to radio is only part of the normal day for people. The only difference between I-pods and CD Walkmen is that you can carry more music with you. In all those years people listened to their CD Walkmen but still found time to listen to radio. The same is true for most people today. The ratings prove that point.

"Bridge Ratings Audience Erosion Study 2006 - Q2 Update"

"In November, 2004, Bridge Ratings & Research released initial results from a multi-year-long Audience Attrition project. The results in that report reflected audience erosion from terrestrial radio due to generally less time spent with AM/FM radio and more time spent with a variety of digital media, including MP3 players (including iPods), Internet radio, satellite radio and Compact Disc."

http://www.bridgeratings.com/press_Where Are Listeners Going Update.04.07.2006.htm

Yea, the ratings sure do, Burns !

How about the Arbitrons. Those are radio ratings not the bridge ratings. These other media have nothing to do with radio. Again you will go anywhere to say negative things about radio. You aren't changing anyones mind and add nothing to the HD discussion. This is an HD board after all.

 

[PocketRadio]

Clear Channel doesn't make telephones, Apple doesn't make radios (or produce radio programming). They DO distribute programming produced by others, including Clear Channel. Clearly, these are not competitive technologies. Duh!

Any entertainment device that allows you to listen to internet broadcasts, streaming music, or whatever is not broadcasting over the conventional commercial broadcast band, is a competitor to terrestrial radio.

When I'm listening to an MP3 player, internet stream or Satellite Radio channel. I'm NOT listening to a terrestrial radio station.

But radio today is not something you sit down and listen to all evening. It's a 15 minutes here, 30 minutes there device. If you're listening to your I-Pod all your waken hours that's another point. That means you don't participate in society or watch TV or read a paper and on and on. Listening to radio is only part of the normal day for people. The only difference between I-pods and CD Walkmen is that you can carry more music with you. In all those years people listened to their CD Walkmen but still found time to listen to radio. The same is true for most people today. The ratings prove that point.

"Bridge Ratings Audience Erosion Study 2006 - Q2 Update"

"In November, 2004, Bridge Ratings & Research released initial results from a multi-year-long Audience Attrition project. The results in that report reflected audience erosion from terrestrial radio due to generally less time spent with AM/FM radio and more time spent with a variety of digital media, including MP3 players (including iPods), Internet radio, satellite radio and Compact Disc."

http://www.bridgeratings.com/press_Where Are Listeners Going Update.04.07.2006.htm

Yea, the ratings sure do, Burns !

How about the Arbitrons. Those are radio ratings not the bridge ratings. These other media have nothing to do with radio. Again you will go anywhere to say negative things about radio. You aren't changing anyones mind and add nothing to the HD discussion. This is an HD board after all.

"When radio ignores under-25's, under-25's go away"

"Arbitron has already shown declines among teens (see the stats from the NYT article below), a phenomenon which is easily explained and should surprise us not at all. Ditto for 18-24's."

http://www.hear2.com/2006/09/when_radio_igno.html

"Edison Study: Teen Radio Listening Down"

"A new study from Edison Media Research examines the continuing decline in radio listening by 12-24 year-olds."

http://www.fmqb.com/article.asp?id=274456

Nice try - your previous post, which I responded to, had no mention of HD Radio and you were comparing terrestrial radio to iPods. Your off-topic post just goes to show that terrestrial radio is losing Gen Y to iPods, cell phones, gaming-systems, etc. and has no future, or just a shell of one.

 

[R.F. Burns]

Clear Channel doesn't make telephones, Apple doesn't make radios (or produce radio programming). They DO distribute programming produced by others, including Clear Channel. Clearly, these are not competitive technologies. Duh!

Any entertainment device that allows you to listen to internet broadcasts, streaming music, or whatever is not broadcasting over the conventional commercial broadcast band, is a competitor to terrestrial radio.

When I'm listening to an MP3 player, internet stream or Satellite Radio channel. I'm NOT listening to a terrestrial radio station.

But radio today is not something you sit down and listen to all evening. It's a 15 minutes here, 30 minutes there device. If you're listening to your I-Pod all your waken hours that's another point. That means you don't participate in society or watch TV or read a paper and on and on. Listening to radio is only part of the normal day for people. The only difference between I-pods and CD Walkmen is that you can carry more music with you. In all those years people listened to their CD Walkmen but still found time to listen to radio. The same is true for most people today. The ratings prove that point.

"Bridge Ratings Audience Erosion Study 2006 - Q2 Update"

"In November, 2004, Bridge Ratings & Research released initial results from a multi-year-long Audience Attrition project. The results in that report reflected audience erosion from terrestrial radio due to generally less time spent with AM/FM radio and more time spent with a variety of digital media, including MP3 players (including iPods), Internet radio, satellite radio and Compact Disc."

http://www.bridgeratings.com/press_Where Are Listeners Going Update.04.07.2006.htm

Yea, the ratings sure do, Burns !

How about the Arbitrons. Those are radio ratings not the bridge ratings. These other media have nothing to do with radio. Again you will go anywhere to say negative things about radio. You aren't changing anyones mind and add nothing to the HD discussion. This is an HD board after all.

"When radio ignores under-25's, under-25's go away"

"Arbitron has already shown declines among teens (see the stats from the NYT article below), a phenomenon which is easily explained and should surprise us not at all. Ditto for 18-24's."

http://www.hear2.com/2006/09/when_radio_igno.html

"Edison Study: Teen Radio Listening Down"

"A new study from Edison Media Research examines the continuing decline in radio listening by 12-24 year-olds."

http://www.fmqb.com/article.asp?id=274456

Nice try - your previous post, which I responded to, had no mention of HD Radio and you were comparing terrestrial radio to iPods. Your off-topic post just goes to show that terrestrial radio is losing Gen Y to iPods, cell phones, gaming-systems, etc. and has no future, or just a shell of one.

OK, now are you going to keep repeating the same thing over and over again? The music industry is in a funk. Traditional stores have gone out of business. Kids listen for new music and it stinks. They download it from the internet (for free in most cases). The money demo 25-54 is still there and as kids grow up and make use of radios other virtues radio will adapt and succeed. Any thoughts on television as long as we're talking?

 

[wgliradio]

Yet. That's the qualifier. We all know this technology changes rapidly and what doesn't exist 'yet' will be here tomorrow. The fact that a lot of heavy hitters, including Microsoft, are investing in Wi-MAX and more and more cities are committing to muni wi-fi indicates that it will be here much sooner than later.

The reasoning, 'yes, but you can get HD-Radio now,' betrays a short-sighted thinking. By the time HD-Radio acheives any significant penetration (assuming it ever does) Wi-MAX will be everywhere and the public will be listening to radio on their next generation smartphones or wi-fi enabled iPods.

That's the future, we'll just have to get ready for to it.

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There is so much money to be made in Wi-MAX that I can't see all these companies (Microsoft, Apple, AT&T, Sprint, etc) sitting on their hands.

 

[wgliradio]

Then there's the HD radios are expensive argument and how $150 is way too much for new technology (But $300 for a Bose wave radio isn't), but not a word about the $500 dollar I-phone.

A marketing problem. Apple hyped it in such a way the IPhone became a status symbol. Some things are must have devices no matter what the price. That's why, so far, all of the HD offerings have been pin-drop items.

Unless you wear a pocket protector, they aren't sexy... for lack of a better term (and I will go on the list of pocket protector wearers).

 

[wgliradio]

Any entertainment device that allows you to listen to internet broadcasts, streaming music, or whatever is not broadcasting over the conventional commercial broadcast band, is a competitor to terrestrial radio.

When I'm listening to an MP3 player, internet stream or Satellite Radio channel. I'm NOT listening to a terrestrial radio station.

This was discussed in one of the radio trade magazines not too long ago (I think it was Radio Ink) and I agree with it

A summary of the article was that broadcasters have to stop thinking that they are only competing with others in their circle. Anything in the car that can take the listener's ear away from your content.. a cell phone, an MP3 player, satellite radio... is competition.

It's nice if CC wants to put on a brave face, but the IPhone will compete for radio listeners as both a media player and a cell phone. I personally think it is foolish for a broadcaster to downplay something like this. It's not good to ignore the white elephant in the room.