Clear Channel Must be Doing Something Right

[Barry]

When Clear Channel is mentioned on radio boards, it is often in a negative manner. And no doubt there are things to criticize.
But let's give them their due; they apparently know how to program and promote successful stations, even in the tough New York market.

In the June PPM, New York 25-54 :
#1 WLTW (Clear Channel).
#2 WKTU (Clear Channel).
#3 WHTZ (Clear Channel).
#4 WAXQ (Clear Channel)
#10 WWPR (Clear Channel)

18-34:
#1 WHTZ (Clear Channel)
#2 WQHT (Emmis- CC can't win 'em all)
#3 WKTU (Clear Channel)
#4 WWPR (Clear Channel)
#6 WLTW (Clear Channel)

Just sayin' .

June PPM's, by Vince Santarelli: http://www.examiner.com/ny-in-new-york/june-ppm-s

 

[magicjellybeans]

Yeah ,they are all music formats.....They play the safe familiar songs that everyone wants to hear.
So they get ratings or they have the right advertisers backing them..

 

[ansky212]

Yeah ,they are all music formats.....They play the safe familiar songs that everyone wants to hear.
So they get ratings or they have the right advertisers backing them..

Exactly. WHTZ and WKTU are practically carbon copies of each other. And during the day WLTW plays a lot of songs that are also heard on WHTZ and WKTU. All of these, especially WHTZ play the same songs over and over.

 

[Barry]

Yeah ,they are all music formats.....They play the safe familiar songs that everyone wants to hear.
So they get ratings or they have the right advertisers backing them..

Aren't most other commercial music stations trying to do the same thing, with less success? If it was so simple, everyone would be on top of the heap.

 

[GooberVision]

Yeah ,they are all music formats.....They play the safe familiar songs that everyone wants to hear.
So they get ratings or they have the right advertisers backing them..

This is the MOST ignorant statement I have ever heard. Wow. Just...wow. Really?

 

[Radaioman]

Yeah ,they are all music formats.....They play the safe familiar songs that everyone wants to hear.
So they get ratings or they have the right advertisers backing them..

This is the MOST ignorant statement I have ever heard. Wow. Just...wow. Really?

Yes. Perhaps the dumbest thing I have read on a radio message board. Its like saying "That Italian restaurant is only popular because it serve classic Italian food really well and has great service. Yeah, a recipe for failure.

 

[Radaioman]

Yeah ,they are all music formats.....They play the safe familiar songs that everyone wants to hear.
So they get ratings or they have the right advertisers backing them..

Exactly. WHTZ and WKTU are practically carbon copies of each other. And during the day WLTW plays a lot of songs that are also heard on WHTZ and WKTU. All of these, especially WHTZ play the same songs over and over.

They overlap is 30-40% of their playlists. Carbon copies? Hardly. That's like saying all rock music sounds the same if you don't really understand rock music

 

[lalumia]

They play the safe familiar songs that everyone wants to hear.
So they get ratings or they have the right advertisers backing them..
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I mean, really...Top 40 radio has been doing this successfully since the 1950s, because, ummm,,duh.
THAT'S WHAT THE AVERAGE PERSON WANTS!

 

[butchfm]

Yes, AL2 is right get familiar and practice safe radio!

 

[DToTheJ]

Re: from the original post: "CC can't win 'em all."

Case in point: In their home base of San Antonio, an FM station that they own at 92.5 with a bird-fed conservative talk format (in all fairness, one with a weak signal in some areas) failed to make the latest PPM. (More info on the SATX/Austin board. : )

 

[Wildstyle K]

Well hopefully this success will reflect on Atlanta's WWVA soon. They really need to get in the top 10 because it's really the only hope Atlanta has right now for finally having a full chr top 40 that delivers ALL the hits, regardless of whether it leans rhythmic or not!

 

[SonoSational18]

Yeah ,they are all music formats.....They play the safe familiar songs that everyone wants to hear.
So they get ratings or they have the right advertisers backing them..

Well, yeah. Play the hits. Run some good promotions. Get ratings. Get more advertisers at higher rates. Isn't that basically what radio's all about?

 

[DanceDiva3]

That is what you get when you own too many stations in one market. It's called a "MONOPOLY" and ClearChannel Thanks Bill Clinton for passing the bill! Go light up another cigar and maybe you can share one with Ryan Seacrest this time around

 

[uncamark]

That is what you get when you own too many stations in one market. It's called a "MONOPOLY" and ClearChannel Thanks Bill Clinton for passing the bill! Go light up another cigar and maybe you can share one with Ryan Seacrest this time around

It isn't a monopoly when there are 50 other signals in the market not owned by CC and CC has competition in CHR, AC and urban.

 

[GooberVision]

That is what you get when you own too many stations in one market. It's called a "MONOPOLY" and ClearChannel Thanks Bill Clinton for passing the bill! Go light up another cigar and maybe you can share one with Ryan Seacrest this time around

Once again.. another ignorant statement. What do you people read? Do you even read? You make yourself look like an idiot.

 

[BJSteigner]

That is what you get when you own too many stations in one market. It's called a "MONOPOLY" and ClearChannel Thanks Bill Clinton for passing the bill! Go light up another cigar and maybe you can share one with Ryan Seacrest this time around

Clear Channel is the one who paid Bill Clinton to pass the "bill" But he wasn't alone..A ton of people in Congress were paid off as well.

As for Ryan Seacrest, I have duct tape to tape his mouth shut...HE SUCKS as a radio personality and on air TV talent.

 

[flashback]

it may not be a monopoly but it is not a good idea to allow as many stations to be owned in one market by a single company.

 

[Radaioman]

it may not be a monopoly but it is not a good idea to allow as many stations to be owned in one market by a single company.

Why not? They own only 5 out of 50 and use that to attract guests and large scale concerts, offer lower group rates on ad sales which are all benefits to the listener.

 

[pjc1961]

And there's nothing stopping another media company from owning as many stations CC has in this or any market. There are FCC cap limits in place to regulate such things based on number of stations in each band in a market (based on market size) and percentage share of audience. So as to ownership, there's no monopoly at work, just a company that's spread itself across the country.

I guess there's no complaints about CBS Radio owning as many outlets in the major markets? Or maybe Entercom's 4 FM & 3 AM stations in Kansas City or Greater Media's 5 FM stations in Boston, for example? Or the soon to be Cumulus/Citadel company?

An argument may be made that the cap limits should be tightened a bit, but you can't blame the big dogs for taking a bigger piece of the pie when it was made available.

Now might CC be, uh, somewhat leveraged these days since they might be spread a bit too thin? Different story. How each company runs its business is a different matter - I'm sure there's many differing opinions amongst radio professionals as to which radio company handles things the best. Can be quite subjective.

 

[uncamark]

And there's nothing stopping another media company from owning as many stations CC has in this or any market. There are FCC cap limits in place to regulate such things based on number of stations in each band in a market (based on market size) and percentage share of audience. So as to ownership, there's no monopoly at work, just a company that's spread itself across the country.

I guess there's no complaints about CBS Radio owning as many outlets in the major markets? Or maybe Entercom's 4 FM & 3 AM stations in Kansas City or Greater Media's 5 FM stations in Boston, for example? Or the soon to be Cumulus/Citadel company?

An argument may be made that the cap limits should be tightened a bit, but you can't blame the big dogs for taking a bigger piece of the pie when it was made available.

Now might CC be, uh, somewhat leveraged these days since they might be spread a bit too thin? Different story. How each company runs its business is a different matter - I'm sure there's many differing opinions amongst radio professionals as to which radio company handles things the best. Can be quite subjective.

The problem with CC is that they've become the symbol of Evil Corporate Radio, thanks to all those newspaper and online articles about the Mays family and about Randy Michaels when he was there. CBS, Citadel, Cumulus or any other multiple station owner can be just as bad or worse, but Mr. Indie Rock Fan doesn't know about them and so when he wants to vent about his darlings not being played above 92 FM, he blames CC. (It doesn't help, of course, that they used to own what is now LiveNation.) And below 92, Mr. Indie Rock Fan can now blame colleges for wanting to sell off radio stations and Public Radio Capital for trying to make sure that they stay out of the hands of EMF/AFA and the other religious owners and into the hands of NPR stations for news or classical music, not indie rock. (In fact, Mr. Indie Rock Fan/LPM Advocate now considers NPR just as evil as CC, but not for political reasons.)