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Clear Channel Slashes Rates With It's "Weekend Warrior" Package

W

wennykindham

Guest
With earnings down company-wide this year to the tune of over 100 million Clear Channel has apparantly put out the word to "Sell Something, Dammit!" The latest offering in Jackson is a smooth little weekend package called the "Weekend Warrior" package. This package offers advertisers 10 spots on Saturday and 10 spots on Sunday to run 6a-12 midnight. You get the same deal on all six of their stations. That's 120 spots total for just $1,100-yep, less than 10 dollars a holler. Now that is a bargain! I encourage all sales execs in the area to be sure and inform their clients about this opportunity- especially the ones who are paying $50/spot on Miss 103. They might need to get in on the action. I can see it now- big, fat, 7 minute spotsets on all CC stations from 6A-12mid all week-end while program directors pull out the rest of their hair trying to keep listeners from bolting. Meanwhile USJ plugs away with 30 minute commercial free sets of music. Funny stuff. Look for them to start growing crops on their tower sites next- it should be fertile ground given the neverending supply of, shall we say, "Soil amendments."
 
> With earnings down company-wide this year to the tune of
> over 100 million Clear Channel has apparantly put out the
> word to "Sell Something, Dammit!" The latest offering in
> Jackson is a smooth little weekend package called the
> "Weekend Warrior" package. This package offers advertisers
> 10 spots on Saturday and 10 spots on Sunday to run 6a-12
> midnight. You get the same deal on all six of their
> stations. That's 120 spots total for just $1,100-yep, less
> than 10 dollars a holler. Now that is a bargain! I encourage
> all sales execs in the area to be sure and inform their
> clients about this opportunity- especially the ones who are
> paying $50/spot on Miss 103. They might need to get in on
> the action. I can see it now- big, fat, 7 minute spotsets on
> all CC stations from 6A-12mid all week-end while program
> directors pull out the rest of their hair trying to keep
> listeners from bolting. Meanwhile USJ plugs away with 30
> minute commercial free sets of music. Funny stuff. Look for
> them to start growing crops on their tower sites next- it
> should be fertile ground given the neverending supply of,
> shall we say, "Soil amendments."
>

So sad. We get to reap the "rewards" of chump channel's "march to the sea". Pathetic. Thanks for ruining radio, cc!
 
"I can see it now- big, fat, 7 minute spotsets on all CC stations from 6A-12mid all week-end while program directors pull out the rest of their hair trying to keep listeners from bolting. Meanwhile USJ plugs away with 30 minute commercial free sets of music. Funny stuff. Look for them to start growing crops on their tower sites next- it should be fertile ground given the neverending supply of,
shall we say, "Soil amendments."



Couple items here:

1) Under Less is More, a stopset CAN NOT be 7 minutes long. The maximum length is 4 minutes, in most cases.

2) So tell us, Wenny, where in the New South building do you work? I don't seem to remember meeting any CC-obsessed fanatics when I was there in early February to interview for the night position at WYOY... A "30 minute commercial free set" only means so much, when you get down to the real reason for the radio station being on the air... TO MAKE MONEY. I'd also be willing to bet that what's being billed as "30 minutes" is not, in fact, a true 30 minutes.

3) When in your past did you work for CC and get canned by them? I have yet to see you post ANYTHING on this board that was not a Clear Channel slam.

Happy trails.<P ID="signature">______________
Aaron Tyler
Afternoons / MD
WVZA / Marion - Carbondale, IL
www.kissfm927.com

Weekends / Swing
KSLZ / St. Louis
WAKZ / Youngstown, OH
</P>
 
> "I can see it now- big, fat, 7 minute spotsets on all CC
> stations from 6A-12mid all week-end while program directors
> pull out the rest of their hair trying to keep listeners
> from bolting. Meanwhile USJ plugs away with 30 minute
> commercial free sets of music. Funny stuff. Look for them to
> start growing crops on their tower sites next- it should be
> fertile ground given the neverending supply of,
> shall we say, "Soil amendments."
>
>
>
> Couple items here:
>
> 1) Under Less is More, a stopset CAN NOT be 7 minutes long.
> The maximum length is 4 minutes, in most cases.
>
> 2) So tell us, Wenny, where in the New South building do
> you work? I don't seem to remember meeting any CC-obsessed
> fanatics when I was there in early February to interview for
> the night position at WYOY... A "30 minute commercial free
> set" only means so much, when you get down to the real
> reason for the radio station being on the air... TO MAKE
> MONEY. I'd also be willing to bet that what's being billed
> as "30 minutes" is not, in fact, a true 30 minutes.
>
> 3) When in your past did you work for CC and get canned by
> them? I have yet to see you post ANYTHING on this board
> that was not a Clear Channel slam.
>
> Happy trails.
>
Wow, you're an angry elf!
Only item #1 applies. The rest is just anger.
 
> Wow, you're an angry elf!
> Only item #1 applies. The rest is just anger.


Where do you get "anger" out of any of that? They were simple points..

Are you implying that I have a grudge against New South? Ha. Absolutely not. The position with Y101, as I understand it, was mine to turn down.. and I did so, for reasons of family and the chance to have a shot at working for my dream station, nothing else.

The point about "Wenny Kindham" posting nothing but slams against Clear Channel is valid... Show me just ONE post where the individual did not..

I'm waiting...

...

...

Still waiting...

...

...

Thought so. Happy trails to you too, kind sir.
<P ID="signature">______________
Aaron Tyler
Afternoons / MD
WVZA / Marion - Carbondale, IL
www.kissfm927.com

Weekends / Swing
KSLZ / St. Louis
WAKZ / Youngstown, OH
</P>
 
> "I can see it now- big, fat, 7 minute spotsets on all CC
> stations from 6A-12mid all week-end while program directors
> pull out the rest of their hair trying to keep listeners
> from bolting. Meanwhile USJ plugs away with 30 minute
> commercial free sets of music. Funny stuff. Look for them to
> start growing crops on their tower sites next- it should be
> fertile ground given the neverending supply of,
> shall we say, "Soil amendments."
>
>
>
> Couple items here:
>
> 1) Under Less is More, a stopset CAN NOT be 7 minutes long.
> The maximum length is 4 minutes, in most cases.
>
> 2) So tell us, Wenny, where in the New South building do
> you work? I don't seem to remember meeting any CC-obsessed
> fanatics when I was there in early February to interview for
> the night position at WYOY... A "30 minute commercial free
> set" only means so much, when you get down to the real
> reason for the radio station being on the air... TO MAKE
> MONEY. I'd also be willing to bet that what's being billed
> as "30 minutes" is not, in fact, a true 30 minutes.
>
> 3) When in your past did you work for CC and get canned by
> them? I have yet to see you post ANYTHING on this board
> that was not a Clear Channel slam.
>
> Happy trails.
>

Oh Tyler, I don't have a beef with you so don't take it personally , okay?
And I'm sorry you couldn't get the night gig at WYOY- I don't know who's better off for it- You or Y-101. But it's flattering to know you follow my occasional post and for that devotion I'll reward you with a reply to your questions. I'm always happy to help you inexperienced young folks avoid the pitfalls that have ensnared so many before you, so feel free to ask any time. Here goes:
1)You said: "Under Less is More, a stopset CAN NOT be 7 minutes long.
> The maximum length is 4 minutes, in most cases." Yes that's the way it's
supposed to be- but in practice it's not so. 7 minutes may be a slight
exaggeration but 6-6.5 will happen if they can actually sell the package.
Trust me, I know these people. And who's a PD to complain to anyway- they'd
be in the doghouse if not gone shortly afterward.
2) I'd never work for someone with purple hair... or New South.
3) I've never been fired from Clear Channel. As a matter of fact my CC
employee file has nothing but praise for my performance and ability to
bring projects in on time and on budget. What's yours say?
You say the primary reason stations are on the air is to make money-How much can you make at $10 a spot while the competition easily sells out at $50/spot :)30 or :60) for the same daypart? Just curious, not crazed.
The only time "Less is More" is when you're on all fours and they've locked the cell doors.
WK
"Got my hater blockers on..."
 
> > "I can see it now- big, fat, 7 minute spotsets on all CC
> > stations from 6A-12mid all week-end while program
> directors
> > pull out the rest of their hair trying to keep listeners
> > from bolting. Meanwhile USJ plugs away with 30 minute
> > commercial free sets of music. Funny stuff. Look for them
> to
> > start growing crops on their tower sites next- it should
> be
> > fertile ground given the neverending supply of,
> > shall we say, "Soil amendments."
> >
> >
> >
> > Couple items here:
> >
> > 1) Under Less is More, a stopset CAN NOT be 7 minutes
> long.
> > The maximum length is 4 minutes, in most cases.
> >
> > 2) So tell us, Wenny, where in the New South building do
> > you work? I don't seem to remember meeting any
> CC-obsessed
> > fanatics when I was there in early February to interview
> for
> > the night position at WYOY... A "30 minute commercial
> free
> > set" only means so much, when you get down to the real
> > reason for the radio station being on the air... TO MAKE
> > MONEY. I'd also be willing to bet that what's being
> billed
> > as "30 minutes" is not, in fact, a true 30 minutes.
> >
> > 3) When in your past did you work for CC and get canned
> by
> > them? I have yet to see you post ANYTHING on this board
> > that was not a Clear Channel slam.
> >
> > Happy trails.
> >
> Wow, you're an angry elf!
> Only item #1 applies. The rest is just anger.
>

Thanks Pimp- I honestly don't know why they think I'm obsessed with Clear Channel. Hell, when you own over half the 100KW sticks in town and are running them into the ground I think it deserves notice and comment.
WK
 
> > Wow, you're an angry elf!
> > Only item #1 applies. The rest is just anger.
>
>
> Where do you get "anger" out of any of that? They were
> simple points..
>
> Are you implying that I have a grudge against New South?
> Ha. Absolutely not. The position with Y101, as I
> understand it, was mine to turn down.. and I did so, for
> reasons of family and the chance to have a shot at working
> for my dream station, nothing else.
>
> The point about "Wenny Kindham" posting nothing but slams
> against Clear Channel is valid... Show me just ONE post
> where the individual did not..
>
> I'm waiting...
>
> ...
>
> ...
>
> Still waiting...
>
> ...
>
> ...
>
> Thought so. Happy trails to you too, kind sir.
>
No.....you do sound a little angry that Wenny posts on Clear Channel stuff. And since radiopimp hasn't answered your challenge I took the time to review wenny's posts and I have to tell you that you are wrong-go ahead and look for yourself- and don't make stupid comments without checking your facts. He bitches about all kinds of crap- jeez my eyes hurt reading all of it.
By the way-I listened to your bits-nice delivery but not funny. Try and tighten them up and get to the punch line faster-that might help. They run way too long. Almost as irritating as the way you string out your post. I see you are a MD at a CC station- that's funny. What do you do-dub the music in when they send you the list? Does it stand for "Music Dubber?" I've always wondered since the MD has zero influence on programming at CC. Maybe MD stands for "Musiclog-Do'er". Anyway, thanks for stopping by our board-yall come back now, ya hear!
Give em hell Wenny!
Richard
 
I work in radio sales (not in Mississippi) and Wenny is absolutely right. In order to increase sales you can either

1. Sell more or

2. Sell the same amount (of spots) for a higher price.

It's always easier AND MORE PROFITABLE LONG TERM to do number two.

This is basis radio sales 101. Attend an RAB (the next one is in New Orleans next February) and talk to any of the sales pro's there. If you can get them to speak to you privately, they'll tell you the same thing.

If someone is selling spots for 50 dollars in the market, that means that it is possible to sell spots for 50 dollars in the market. If someone finds that the only way they can sell spots is for 80% less, then that facility needs either a new market manager or general sales manager....or maybe both.


Note - I don't know the people involved, just talking in theory and in general.

This is a very short sighted move by Clear Channel. They should be ashamed of themselves.
 
I didn't want to add fuel to his fire, but this might do it:

Moody's Revises Clear Channel Outlook & Prognosis Is Negative

As reported by Reuters, Moody's Investors Service yesterday revised the outlook on Clear Channel Communication’s debt ratings to "negative" from "review for possible downgrade."

Clear Channel's rating from Moody's is the lowest investment grade at "Baa3" on the company's senior unsecured debt. A cut would have pushed them down to junk status.


> > > Wow, you're an angry elf!
> > > Only item #1 applies. The rest is just anger.
> >
> >
> > Where do you get "anger" out of any of that? They were
> > simple points..
> >
 
> Thanks Pimp- I honestly don't know why they think I'm
> obsessed with Clear Channel. Hell, when you own over half
> the 100KW sticks in town and are running them into the
> ground I think it deserves notice and comment.
> WK
>
Anytime. The CC fanatics need to be slapped. I compare them to the young children in New Jack City who loooove Nino because he buys them stuff, no matter how bad a person he was.
 
Oh Lord..

"I see you are a MD at a CC station- that's funny. What do you do-dub the music in when they send you the list? Does it stand for "Music Dubber?" I've always wondered since the MD has zero influence on programming at CC. Maybe MD stands for "Musiclog-Do'er".


LMFAO.

Really... seriously.... It amazes me that people still believe that Clear Channel has a "corporate playlist" for its stations. Here's a bit o'news for you:

They don't.

I have NEVER been told by anyone superior to me in rank "You WILL add this song" or "You will NOT play this particular record." It DOESN'T HAPPEN. I have NEVER been told by my RVP, "I don't like record X, so I'm not going to give you access to it or let you add it to your radio station."

Particularly in the case of my station, an MD within CC has QUITE A BIT of control over what they put on the air. The difference between a good one and one that runs a station that you might think is being run by a "corporate playlist" is knowing when to stick your neck out on a record and when something just needs to be left alone to die, not to mention that you have some MDs that actually spend time with their logs, like myself and I'm certain countless others in the company, and those that just choose to let the scheduling software kick out a log and load it into Prophet.

The concept of a "corporate playlist" in Clear Channel is a myth. One of many, actually.

Next.<P ID="signature">______________
Aaron Tyler
Afternoons / MD
WVZA / Marion - Carbondale, IL
www.kissfm927.com

Weekends / Swing
KSLZ / St. Louis
WAKZ / Youngstown, OH
</P>
 
Re: Oh Lord..

> "I see you are a MD at a CC station- that's funny. What do
> you do-dub the music in when they send you the list? Does it
> stand for "Music Dubber?" I've always wondered since the MD
> has zero influence on programming at CC. Maybe MD stands for
> "Musiclog-Do'er".
>
>
> LMFAO.
>
> Really... seriously.... It amazes me that people still
> believe that Clear Channel has a "corporate playlist" for
> its stations. Here's a bit o'news for you:
>
> They don't.
>
> I have NEVER been told by anyone superior to me in rank "You
> WILL add this song" or "You will NOT play this particular
> record." It DOESN'T HAPPEN. I have NEVER been told by my
> RVP, "I don't like record X, so I'm not going to give you
> access to it or let you add it to your radio station."
>
> Particularly in the case of my station, an MD within CC has
> QUITE A BIT of control over what they put on the air. The
> difference between a good one and one that runs a station
> that you might think is being run by a "corporate playlist"
> is knowing when to stick your neck out on a record and when
> something just needs to be left alone to die, not to mention
> that you have some MDs that actually spend time with their
> logs, like myself and I'm certain countless others in the
> company, and those that just choose to let the scheduling
> software kick out a log and load it into Prophet.
>
> The concept of a "corporate playlist" in Clear Channel is a
> myth. One of many, actually.
>
> Next.

P-lease spare us of the over importance of the MD director job at ANY radio station these days. You are doing the wishes of someone- whether it be someone at corporate or someone in the next cubicle-. ...and while I'm at it, "sticking your neck out on a record".... ha ha ha .... so, you been breaking any new artists lately becuase you added them to the rotation in Jackson. Got a few Gold records lining the wall at home (cause MD's don't get offices anyomre these days)? They'll probably even give you a shout out on TV during the record awards this year for "sticking your neck out". Do you even know how many spins it takes on a Naitonal basis to make a blip on the charts? Bet you don't. OMG- you do have a good sense of worth don't you? Thanks for the chuckle.
>
Tung
 
> > With earnings down company-wide this year to the tune of
> > over 100 million Clear Channel has apparantly put out the
> > word to "Sell Something, Dammit!" The latest offering in
> > Jackson is a smooth little weekend package called the
> > "Weekend Warrior" package. This package offers advertisers
>
> > 10 spots on Saturday and 10 spots on Sunday to run 6a-12
> > midnight. You get the same deal on all six of their
> > stations. That's 120 spots total for just $1,100-yep, less
>
> > than 10 dollars a holler. Now that is a bargain! I
> encourage
> > all sales execs in the area to be sure and inform their
> > clients about this opportunity- especially the ones who
> are
> > paying $50/spot on Miss 103. They might need to get in on
> > the action. I can see it now- big, fat, 7 minute spotsets
> on
> > all CC stations from 6A-12mid all week-end while program
> > directors pull out the rest of their hair trying to keep
> > listeners from bolting. Meanwhile USJ plugs away with 30
> > minute commercial free sets of music. Funny stuff. Look
> for
> > them to start growing crops on their tower sites next- it
> > should be fertile ground given the neverending supply of,
> > shall we say, "Soil amendments."
> >
>
> So sad. We get to reap the "rewards" of chump channel's
> "march to the sea". Pathetic. Thanks for ruining radio,
> cc!

All of you act as if this doesn't happen at any other station or group.
Fire sales are common, especially with inventory that is not moving well.
It's a business for god's sake! Retailers do it, car dealers do it. Employee pricing from GM, you think they're doing it to be nice or to move some product.
It's a business and any business does what it takes to move product. If I were Kenny at CC Jackson, I would figure out how to voice track every daypart except morning drive and drive even more to the bottom line. They could bring in great talent from anywhere in the country through Prophet for that chore and it would save a bundle!

Then you gentlemen would really have something to talk about on this bitch board.
>
 
> > > With earnings down company-wide this year to the tune of
>
> > > over 100 million Clear Channel has apparantly put out
> the
> > > word to "Sell Something, Dammit!" The latest offering in
>
> > > Jackson is a smooth little weekend package called the
> > > "Weekend Warrior" package. This package offers
> advertisers
> >
> > > 10 spots on Saturday and 10 spots on Sunday to run 6a-12
>
> > > midnight. You get the same deal on all six of their
> > > stations. That's 120 spots total for just $1,100-yep,
> less
> >
> > > than 10 dollars a holler. Now that is a bargain! I
> > encourage
> > > all sales execs in the area to be sure and inform their
> > > clients about this opportunity- especially the ones who
> > are
> > > paying $50/spot on Miss 103. They might need to get in
> on
> > > the action. I can see it now- big, fat, 7 minute
> spotsets
> > on
> > > all CC stations from 6A-12mid all week-end while program
>
> > > directors pull out the rest of their hair trying to keep
>
> > > listeners from bolting. Meanwhile USJ plugs away with 30
>
> > > minute commercial free sets of music. Funny stuff. Look
> > for
> > > them to start growing crops on their tower sites next-
> it
> > > should be fertile ground given the neverending supply
> of,
> > > shall we say, "Soil amendments."
> > >
> >
> > So sad. We get to reap the "rewards" of chump channel's
> > "march to the sea". Pathetic. Thanks for ruining radio,
> > cc!
>
> All of you act as if this doesn't happen at any other
> station or group.
> Fire sales are common, especially with inventory that is not
> moving well.
> It's a business for god's sake! Retailers do it, car
> dealers do it. Employee pricing from GM, you think they're
> doing it to be nice or to move some product.
> It's a business and any business does what it takes to move
> product. If I were Kenny at CC Jackson, I would figure out
> how to voice track every daypart except morning drive and
> drive even more to the bottom line. They could bring in
> great talent from anywhere in the country through Prophet
> for that chore and it would save a bundle!
>
> Then you gentlemen would really have something to talk about
> on this bitch board.
> >
> What I believe the consensus is on this "bitch board",as you call it,is a concern of people who truly care about the lack of down-the-road thinking on the part of management. The attempt to fill up inventory at any price lowers the average rate on the station,adds clutter to the programming,(which loses listeners),and lowers credibility in the eyes of advertisers.And,when a group such as CC in Jackson owns 4 class C's in the market,desperation packages like the one mentioned above influences the entire market. If CC in Jackson wants to start giving it away because they don't have the ratings they once had,it lowers the value of the whole market. According to Miller-Kaplan,the market is still down, partly because CC's management's lack of ,shall we say,male scrotum attachments, in showing value of their product,instead of panicky gimmick packages.
 
Re: Oh Lord..

> > "I see you are a MD at a CC station- that's funny. What do
>
> > you do-dub the music in when they send you the list? Does
> it
> > stand for "Music Dubber?" I've always wondered since the
> MD
> > has zero influence on programming at CC. Maybe MD stands
> for
> > "Musiclog-Do'er".
> >
> >
> > LMFAO.
> >
> > Really... seriously.... It amazes me that people still
> > believe that Clear Channel has a "corporate playlist" for
> > its stations. Here's a bit o'news for you:
> >
> > They don't.
> >
> > I have NEVER been told by anyone superior to me in rank
> "You
> > WILL add this song" or "You will NOT play this particular
> > record." It DOESN'T HAPPEN. I have NEVER been told by my
>
> > RVP, "I don't like record X, so I'm not going to give you
> > access to it or let you add it to your radio station."
> >
> > Particularly in the case of my station, an MD within CC
> has
> > QUITE A BIT of control over what they put on the air. The
>
> > difference between a good one and one that runs a station
> > that you might think is being run by a "corporate
> playlist"
> > is knowing when to stick your neck out on a record and
> when
> > something just needs to be left alone to die, not to
> mention
> > that you have some MDs that actually spend time with their
>
> > logs, like myself and I'm certain countless others in the
> > company, and those that just choose to let the scheduling
> > software kick out a log and load it into Prophet.
> >
> > The concept of a "corporate playlist" in Clear Channel is
> a
> > myth. One of many, actually.
> >
> > Next.
>
> P-lease spare us of the over importance of the MD director
> job at ANY radio station these days. You are doing the
> wishes of someone- whether it be someone at corporate or
> someone in the next cubicle-. ...and while I'm at it,
> "sticking your neck out on a record".... ha ha ha .... so,
> you been breaking any new artists lately becuase you added
> them to the rotation in Jackson. Got a few Gold records
> lining the wall at home (cause MD's don't get offices
> anyomre these days)? They'll probably even give you a shout
> out on TV during the record awards this year for "sticking
> your neck out". Do you even know how many spins it takes on
> a Naitonal basis to make a blip on the charts? Bet you
> don't. OMG- you do have a good sense of worth don't you?
> Thanks for the chuckle.
> >
> Tung
>
Wait a minute,Tungnut! You mean to tell me that a Music Director isn't the all- powerful Oz? Does that mean those hard-workin' guys who get congratulated on receiving their Assistant Music Director STRIPES aren't movin' up the corporate food chain??? Well, kiss me on the mouth and call me Madonna! Guess you'll say next that board ops on those Saturday night shows aren't programming genuises....
 
Re: Oh Lord..

Okay, example. I was APD/MD at Wizard 106 in Tupelo a few years back and Tom Freeman was my PD. Tom was also OM of the cluster and had a lot of extra responsibilities. He all but gave me full reign over the music. We had music meetings and he and I usually saw eye to eye on things. We had consultants, but they were just that...consultants. They didn't have the PD power that some of these consultants have today. They encouraged us to do what was right in our market. We were not required to go by the weekly list that came to us, and I can think of specific examples of songs that were not on the list that I added regardless...one of which, a George Strait song that I added straight into medium rotation. Clear Channel never mandated a thing to me musically.

I was fortunate to experience two different companies and two different views of how things are done when I was at Wizard. When we were still owned by Cumulus, the music list I received was the rotation I followed and there were no questions asked. Cumulus gave me no choice. Clear Channel did. In fact, while we were under LMA for the Clear Channel purchase, I had no consultant to deal with whatsoever. I did the music strictly on my own following some tips that Tom taught me, and had it pretty consistent with what other country stations were doing.

Long story short, I have to agree that MDs with Clear Channel often to have a lot of power and control over music, but that all hinges on the amount given to them by their PD.

MC
 
Re: Oh Lord..

> Okay, example. I was APD/MD at Wizard 106 in Tupelo a few
> years back and Tom Freeman was my PD. Tom was also OM of the
> cluster and had a lot of extra responsibilities. He all but
> gave me full reign over the music. We had music meetings and
> he and I usually saw eye to eye on things. We had
> consultants, but they were just that...consultants. They
> didn't have the PD power that some of these consultants have
> today. They encouraged us to do what was right in our
> market. We were not required to go by the weekly list that
> came to us, and I can think of specific examples of songs
> that were not on the list that I added regardless...one of
> which, a George Strait song that I added straight into
> medium rotation. Clear Channel never mandated a thing to me
> musically.
>
> I was fortunate to experience two different companies and
> two different views of how things are done when I was at
> Wizard. When we were still owned by Cumulus, the music list
> I received was the rotation I followed and there were no
> questions asked. Cumulus gave me no choice. Clear Channel
> did. In fact, while we were under LMA for the Clear Channel
> purchase, I had no consultant to deal with whatsoever. I did
> the music strictly on my own following some tips that Tom
> taught me, and had it pretty consistent with what other
> country stations were doing.
>
> Long story short, I have to agree that MDs with Clear
> Channel often to have a lot of power and control over music,
> but that all hinges on the amount given to them by their PD.
>
>
> MC
>
Oh God... this is tempting... like someone lofting me a softball to slam out of the park.... but.... I... must... resist....


Tung
 
Re: Oh Lord..

> > Okay, example. I was APD/MD at Wizard 106 in Tupelo a few
> > years back and Tom Freeman was my PD. Tom was also OM of
> the
> > cluster and had a lot of extra responsibilities. He all
> but
> > gave me full reign over the music. We had music meetings
> and
> > he and I usually saw eye to eye on things. We had
> > consultants, but they were just that...consultants. They
> > didn't have the PD power that some of these consultants
> have
> > today. They encouraged us to do what was right in our
> > market. We were not required to go by the weekly list that
>
> > came to us, and I can think of specific examples of songs
> > that were not on the list that I added regardless...one of
>
> > which, a George Strait song that I added straight into
> > medium rotation. Clear Channel never mandated a thing to
> me
> > musically.
> >
> > I was fortunate to experience two different companies and
> > two different views of how things are done when I was at
> > Wizard. When we were still owned by Cumulus, the music
> list
> > I received was the rotation I followed and there were no
> > questions asked. Cumulus gave me no choice. Clear Channel
> > did. In fact, while we were under LMA for the Clear
> Channel
> > purchase, I had no consultant to deal with whatsoever. I
> did
> > the music strictly on my own following some tips that Tom
> > taught me, and had it pretty consistent with what other
> > country stations were doing.
> >
> > Long story short, I have to agree that MDs with Clear
> > Channel often to have a lot of power and control over
> music,
> > but that all hinges on the amount given to them by their
> PD.
> >
> >
> > MC
> >
> Oh God... this is tempting... like someone lofting me a
> softball to slam out of the park.... but.... I... must...
> resist....
>
>
> Tung
>

Bring it. Perhaps you choose to disagree with me, or perhaps you claim to know more about my programming experience and work history than I do. I welcome your opinion, but please don't embarrass yourself. ;)

MC<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Chatham5150 on 08/20/05 07:07 PM.</FONT></P>
 
> > > With earnings down company-wide this year to the tune of
>
> > > over 100 million Clear Channel has apparantly put out
> the
> > > word to "Sell Something, Dammit!" The latest offering in
>
> > > Jackson is a smooth little weekend package called the
> > > "Weekend Warrior" package. This package offers
> advertisers
> >
> > > 10 spots on Saturday and 10 spots on Sunday to run 6a-12
>
> > > midnight. You get the same deal on all six of their
> > > stations. That's 120 spots total for just $1,100-yep,
> less
> >
> > > than 10 dollars a holler. Now that is a bargain! I
> > encourage
> > > all sales execs in the area to be sure and inform their
> > > clients about this opportunity- especially the ones who
> > are
> > > paying $50/spot on Miss 103. They might need to get in
> on
> > > the action. I can see it now- big, fat, 7 minute
> spotsets
> > on
> > > all CC stations from 6A-12mid all week-end while program
>
> > > directors pull out the rest of their hair trying to keep
>
> > > listeners from bolting. Meanwhile USJ plugs away with 30
>
> > > minute commercial free sets of music. Funny stuff. Look
> > for
> > > them to start growing crops on their tower sites next-
> it
> > > should be fertile ground given the neverending supply
> of,
> > > shall we say, "Soil amendments."
> > >
> >
> > So sad. We get to reap the "rewards" of chump channel's
> > "march to the sea". Pathetic. Thanks for ruining radio,
> > cc!
>
> All of you act as if this doesn't happen at any other
> station or group.
> Fire sales are common, especially with inventory that is not
> moving well.
> It's a business for god's sake! Retailers do it, car
> dealers do it. Employee pricing from GM, you think they're
> doing it to be nice or to move some product.
> It's a business and any business does what it takes to move
> product. If I were Kenny at CC Jackson, I would figure out
> how to voice track every daypart except morning drive and
> drive even more to the bottom line. They could bring in
> great talent from anywhere in the country through Prophet
> for that chore and it would save a bundle!
>
> Then you gentlemen would really have something to talk about
> on this bitch board.
> >

Now that sir is great advice! Problem is ole KW at CC don't take no advice, he knows everything already. He learned it all at MC-it's standard for sociology majors.
>
 
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