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alcapone
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By your user name I am certain you have to be an engineer but how many years have you been in the business. Unless your Lowry Mays you've got to be kidding. CC is done, like over. That's like saying the Jaguars will be in Jacksonville forever. You live in fantasyland my friend.
brilliant post, capone...just brilliant
Hey Al, How in the world can you say that Clear Channel is history when it's obviously worth $80 million bucks?
Good grief, what have you been smoking?
Happy Widow....
Good grief, what have you been smoking?
Happy Widow....
Actually it is still worth 26.7 billion until the stations change hands. So they are keeping Panama City? You might be a Red Neck if, your last name is Mays! Hop in the General Lee Lowry, see you at Hammerhead Fred's!RadioWidow said:Hey Al, How in the world can you say that Clear Channel is history when it's obviously worth $80 million bucks?
Good grief, what have you been smoking?
Happy Widow....
Less is truly going to be more. Less Clear Channel owned stations will mean MORE JOBS!
'Cane, over and out, and I admit I have some Evil Empire stock! Yeeee Haahhhh!
Al...or whoever you are....I have been an engineer for about 35 years......I have been working for CC since 1998 (I was a Paxson engineer before that)....before that consulting engineer since 1984.....Director of Engineering at NPR 1983....I could keep going but I think you get the picture....from an engineer's perspective, CC supports its enginnering people with a great salary and the appropriate amount of equipment to get the job done....I have NO reservations about working at CC.
I have more than "some" CCU stock...I buy it every paycheck and even have some options I will be exercising when the appropriate time comes...
IMHO, you are just another blah blah CC basher with no real experience with or knowledge of them ...I guess you are just pissed because you don't work for them. Why in the hell did you buy CC stock if you think they are such a lousy company?
Oh, one more thing.....I chew Redman and hunt deer....AND I drive a pickup truck with a dog box on it........so you might have ONE thing right....I might just be a redneck....yeeehah!
Charlie aka cceng
I have more than "some" CCU stock...I buy it every paycheck and even have some options I will be exercising when the appropriate time comes...
IMHO, you are just another blah blah CC basher with no real experience with or knowledge of them ...I guess you are just pissed because you don't work for them. Why in the hell did you buy CC stock if you think they are such a lousy company?
Oh, one more thing.....I chew Redman and hunt deer....AND I drive a pickup truck with a dog box on it........so you might have ONE thing right....I might just be a redneck....yeeehah!
Charlie aka cceng
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wcrzx
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It looks like they are keeping Tallahassee as well.
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chota
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It would be nice if Clear Channel brought in a CHR a la Z-103! ;D
Clear Channel owns 3 stations/markets I once managed (in Texas, Ohio & Florida), so I get a variety of feedback. Generally, a little more controlling than the groups of old, with tight operating budgets and challenging sales budgets. But obviously--their performance record is public knowledge--they know what they're doing. And success creates a positive environment wherever you are. This recent rash of downsizing has given CC an even more negative image than their well-earned (negative) reputation as The Behemoth. Nobody likes the big, bad giant--unless they're part of it.
In Florida, Paxson acted as an acquisitions agent for Clear Channel, gathering up a bunch of stations (40? 50?) to fold into CC when the timing was right. Used to be called "trafficking." And in many cases, like Panama City, they simply bought already-dominant stations. Clear Channel didn't build WPAP & WFSY into the dominant players they are. That happened long before anyone from CC or Paxson every stepped through the front door. All CC has really done there is say "keep doing what you've been doing." Not even much tweaking, really. They've sounded the same for a long, long time.
My own memory is too fuzzy. Maybe Charlie can tell us who actually created PAP & Sunny and built them into the big guns they are.
The Great Downsizing of '06 does sadden me. No real reason for it except to shine up cash flow for the big sale. Pensacola's GM Jeannie Hufford did a nice job for them for 10 years; hope they rewarded her appropriately.
In Florida, Paxson acted as an acquisitions agent for Clear Channel, gathering up a bunch of stations (40? 50?) to fold into CC when the timing was right. Used to be called "trafficking." And in many cases, like Panama City, they simply bought already-dominant stations. Clear Channel didn't build WPAP & WFSY into the dominant players they are. That happened long before anyone from CC or Paxson every stepped through the front door. All CC has really done there is say "keep doing what you've been doing." Not even much tweaking, really. They've sounded the same for a long, long time.
My own memory is too fuzzy. Maybe Charlie can tell us who actually created PAP & Sunny and built them into the big guns they are.
The Great Downsizing of '06 does sadden me. No real reason for it except to shine up cash flow for the big sale. Pensacola's GM Jeannie Hufford did a nice job for them for 10 years; hope they rewarded her appropriately.
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alcapone
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Clear Channel has had a terrible reputation for decades. The very rich are a bunch of power hungry, baby control freaks. The Three Stooges are said to have places with the new company but if history holds true these new owners will get tired of them looking over their shoulders, pay them off and tell them to get lost before this time next year. The biz wil be better off.
Charlie. Hope you're not referring to me as a CC basher. I merely said that there will be more jobs in the biz now and there will. I got a limited amount of stock when I worked there!cceng said:IMHO, you are just another blah blah CC basher with no real experience with or knowledge of them ...I guess you are just pissed because you don't work for them. Why in the hell did you buy CC stock if you think they are such a lousy company?
Oh, one more thing.....I chew Redman and hunt deer....AND I drive a pickup truck with a dog box on it........so you might have ONE thing right....I might just be a redneck....yeeehah!
Charlie aka cceng
A friend of mine worked with you in Panama City, if you are the same engineer who was there 3 and a half or 4 years ago. He said you were very programming friendly and had won some awards from Clear Channel. Said you were one of the good guys.
Suppose you're a Nole! That's something we can be at odds about!
'Cane
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radiofriend1
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cceng said:Al...or whoever you are....I have been an engineer for about 35 years......I have been working for CC since 1998 (I was a Paxson engineer before that)....before that consulting engineer since 1984.....Director of Engineering at NPR 1983....I could keep going but I think you get the picture....from an engineer's perspective, CC supports its enginnering people with a great salary and the appropriate amount of equipment to get the job done....I have NO reservations about working at CC.
I have more than "some" CCU stock...I buy it every paycheck and even have some options I will be exercising when the appropriate time comes...
IMHO, you are just another blah blah CC basher with no real experience with or knowledge of them ...I guess you are just pissed because you don't work for them. Why in the hell did you buy CC stock if you think they are such a lousy company?
Oh, one more thing.....I chew Redman and hunt deer....AND I drive a pickup truck with a dog box on it........so you might have ONE thing right....I might just be a redneck....yeeehah!
Charlie aka cceng
types like that are just pissed they couldn't cut it in this biz and it's easier to blame everybody else including the *big dog* than to look in the mirror
Alcaphoney
Ain't even a person wif half a brain postin' or readin' on this board unwilling to be a Mays or be called the
"The Three Stooges" .... 'cept maybe you and I'd hope none, cludin' yew, would be willin' to not cash in
that winning LOTTOCC ticket when it HITS THE WINNING 26 BILLION NUMBERS.
Seriously, I don't agree with all CC has done, but they didn't ass me for my opinion. And to not know Charlie is the
KING of CC ENG on the world's most beautiful white sand beaches is, well, not endearing your heartfelt tidings in
anyones heart.
Would ya be willing to consider a recant?
Ain't even a person wif half a brain postin' or readin' on this board unwilling to be a Mays or be called the
"The Three Stooges" .... 'cept maybe you and I'd hope none, cludin' yew, would be willin' to not cash in
that winning LOTTOCC ticket when it HITS THE WINNING 26 BILLION NUMBERS.
Seriously, I don't agree with all CC has done, but they didn't ass me for my opinion. And to not know Charlie is the
KING of CC ENG on the world's most beautiful white sand beaches is, well, not endearing your heartfelt tidings in
anyones heart.
Would ya be willing to consider a recant?
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radiofriend1
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BIG APE said:Clear Channel Sucks and always has..No Mercy
Salami,
BIG APE
ooh boy that was deep and powerful insight
spoken like a reject who just couldn't make the big time i guess
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attackpoodle
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Ya'll might all be rednecks. Tell it like it is, what a bunch of chickens kissin butts...so what, someone has been the engineer since Marconi...or knows the Mays..who gives a rats *&^ ...my gun hangs in my gun rack just like yours. CC is what it is..good or bad..depends on your paycheck and whether or not you got blown out or not. Face it being an engineer in the past has meant job security, times are a changin....things are smaller and getting easier....learn or leave!
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Radio Flyer
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An Open Invitation
For those of you that speak negatively of Clear Channel Radio, you are cordially invited to a facility tour of Clear Channel Panama City. You are invited to talk to anyone on our staff about what they think about working for Clear Channel Radio. I will personally take you to visit our local Chambers of Commerce, local charities, the local Ad Fed, or any other local organization of your choosing to ask their opinion of their relationship with Clear Channel Radio Panama City. I will share all valid comments verbatim on this site.
Pete Norden
Market Manager - Clear Channel Panama City
850.769.1408 x 228
For those of you that speak negatively of Clear Channel Radio, you are cordially invited to a facility tour of Clear Channel Panama City. You are invited to talk to anyone on our staff about what they think about working for Clear Channel Radio. I will personally take you to visit our local Chambers of Commerce, local charities, the local Ad Fed, or any other local organization of your choosing to ask their opinion of their relationship with Clear Channel Radio Panama City. I will share all valid comments verbatim on this site.
Pete Norden
Market Manager - Clear Channel Panama City
850.769.1408 x 228
Nice gesture, Pete.
I would venture, though, that the negative feeling that is generally felt throughout the industry toward your company has less to do with the performance of individual stations or clusters, or individual employees. Common sense says that there are plenty of terrific people working for CC, and many of them are producing great radio.
What Clear Channel has done to the industry, though, isn't so pretty. Lowry Mays & Tom Hicks hatched a brilliant scheme taking advantage of their access to Wall Street billions and DC politicians--involving an attack on federal regulations written to serve the common good (the public interest). Through their political connections, they rewrote those regulations to enable themselves to grab one-tenth of the nation's radio stations and one-fourth (one-third?) of the industry's revenue, then strip most of those stations of their primary asset: their people. They've single-handedly cast out tens of thousands of talented, creative people in order to finesse an exhorbitantly profitable exit.
So they basically trashed American radio in a little more than 10 years and walked away with $ Billions.
Nobody's really pissed at you or the folks at PAP/FSY. It's the A-holes you work for.
I would venture, though, that the negative feeling that is generally felt throughout the industry toward your company has less to do with the performance of individual stations or clusters, or individual employees. Common sense says that there are plenty of terrific people working for CC, and many of them are producing great radio.
What Clear Channel has done to the industry, though, isn't so pretty. Lowry Mays & Tom Hicks hatched a brilliant scheme taking advantage of their access to Wall Street billions and DC politicians--involving an attack on federal regulations written to serve the common good (the public interest). Through their political connections, they rewrote those regulations to enable themselves to grab one-tenth of the nation's radio stations and one-fourth (one-third?) of the industry's revenue, then strip most of those stations of their primary asset: their people. They've single-handedly cast out tens of thousands of talented, creative people in order to finesse an exhorbitantly profitable exit.
So they basically trashed American radio in a little more than 10 years and walked away with $ Billions.
Nobody's really pissed at you or the folks at PAP/FSY. It's the A-holes you work for.
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