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Coming soon... K-EARTH 101 streaming live in September!

J

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"Coming soon" has been on the K-EARTH web site for nearly 2 months. Sounds like K-Earth is using definition number 4.

Soon:
adv., soon·er, soon·est.

1. In the near future; shortly.
2. Without hesitation; promptly: came as soon as possible.
3. Before the usual or appointed time; early.
4. Whenever we get good and ready
 
With CBS dumping yet another oldies stations today, KFRC/San Franicsco, does it really matter if K-Earth streams? This station doesn't have much of a shelf life left. K-Earth station hasn't gained .1 of a point since Jhani Kaye came in and ruined it. And it's demos grow older and older each day. But not as much as its' sales have been dropping.
 
Face it, the time has come to dump the music of the 40's, 50s, and 60's and a good part of the 70's onto the dust heap of history! And the sooner the better!!!!! The listeners have all moved onto I-pods, satellite, and other interests more in line with their lifestyles or so it seems! This music has enjoyed a very very long life and now its time to bury it forever as it shrivels up just like we'll be doing! lol lol lol.. cue: Vincent Price laughing............as in thriller.......sorry couldn't help myself!
 
Yeah, let's flip it to Hip Hop and grab KDAY from 93.5.

Just kidding, that would be a even bigger waste of a 50kw stick.
 
With the recent flips of all the other oldies stations, Im affraid K-Earth will be flipping in the near future as well. I sure as hell hope not. But I won't be surprised if they would......So, streaming the station over the www, well, I guess thats the last thing that's gonna happen....
 
Re: Coming soon... KNX-FM NEWSRADIO

I think the great "Solid Gold Rock and Roll" and such is fading vis vis the music. The old formatics that made K-Earth so great are timeless. Anyway, since the money demos are basically using FM, maybe it's time to RESTORE one of the news and info stations to some sense of quality and put it where the audience is today- FM! There is the beinning of a trend seen in other markets toward this end. CBS Radio has two FM sticks that are underperforming in L.A. Put maybe KNX on the FM //KNX(AM).
 
Re: Coming soon... ADD TO ABOVE POST

Regarding the above post (I don't know how to edit these things yet) I just want to ask if anyone has the "hypothetical" yearly billing totals for KNX and KRTH. The stations I think have a combined share of 4.4? older demos, so maybe a simulcast would not make sense. With its resources in news, KNX-A could go more toward local talk and seriously compete with the loud-mouth tabloid KFI and maybe get a leg up on KABC before Citadel takes it more local. KNX-F could then be more all-news. Thoughts or variations for this idea welcome.
 
Re: Coming soon... ADD TO ABOVE POST

la112 said:
Regarding the above post (I don't know how to edit these things yet) I just want to ask if anyone has the "hypothetical" yearly billing totals for KNX and KRTH. The stations I think have a combined share of 4.4? older demos, so maybe a simulcast would not make sense. With its resources in news, KNX-A could go more toward local talk and seriously compete with the loud-mouth tabloid KFI and maybe get a leg up on KABC before Citadel takes it more local. KNX-F could then be more all-news. Thoughts or variations for this idea welcome.
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Los Angeles has so much news, it doesn't need an FM news station. We've already got two AM CBS news stations and a ton of local live tv news starting at 5 AM all the way through midnight. The only hours not covered with tv news are 10-11 AM, 1-2 PM, 3:30-4 PM and 7-8 PM in this market. Most of time with multiple stations doing local tv news.

KFI is a great station. If anyone is going to compete with them, they better be as in-your-face as they are or they will be a loser. Just as KFWB, KNX and KABC currently are.

KNX and KFWB need a new program director. David G. Hall is an idiot who hasn't done a damn thing with them except bring them down.

One or the other, KNX or KFWB needs to end their all news format. And since they've recently been combining the newsrooms of the two, I think it's on the way.

When K-Earth ends oldies it will be for something in the money demos. Much younger than what they have now. They can last maybe a couple more years but that's about it. Whatever the next "fad" format is (like Jack was in the last 2 years and Movin is this year) that isn't in this market, I'm sure they'll jump on it.
 
Krth's website dosen't mention streaming coming soon now!
They do have morning show pod casts, whoopie!

;D
 
RadioStarOne said:
Face it, the time has come to dump the music of the 40's, 50s, and 60's and a good part of the 70's onto the dust heap of history! And the sooner the better!!!!!
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While I'm not as enthusiastically cheering the demise of some great music, it's hard to argue with the demographic issues here.

When K-Earth debuted as an oldies station in 1972, the oldest song it played was from 1955...17 years earlier. That's the same as 1989 (nearly 1990) today. Even adult-targeting stations like KMPC rarely played anything more than 20 years old. KFI did have Chuck Cecil playing swing music in afternoon drive that year, but it was bumped to nights and then to weekends within a year...and was gone altogether in another two. And Chuck rarely played anything more than 35 years old...which is the equivalent of a 1971 record today.

Time has marched on. Movin' is oldies for women in their early-mid 30s.

---Michael Hagerty
 
An oldies station has to be for more than just women in order to survive, Michael! Will this work in a market like San Francisco? I guess us old timers will just have to move on to satellite and our old relics in our record
collections after we transfer them to our digital music players.
 
If Movin' is oldies for women, then perhaps Jack is oldies for men.

---Michael Hagerty
 
Michael,

I hate to disagree with a valid comparision, but you ignore the seminal change that happened to music in the 1960s.

The era of 1964 to the mid '70s was a time of very eclectic musical tastes, broadly shared acorss demographics.

More importantly, the era of music that is roughly encapsulated by KRTH and its sisters was the last time that mass audiences pretty much listened to the same types of stations, and those stations crossed genres.

After the golden era of top 40, formats and listener tastes splintered. Stations didn't play the Beatles followed by a sould record, followed by a country crossover, followed by an instrumental.

KRTH is frozen at that end of the era. As that audience ages, there is no broad-based successor music to move on to. As KRTH tries to modernize its list, it runs into the inevitable fact that it cannot play "hits of the 80s" and be as broad based.
 
Hans:
I'm not sure where we disagree. I don't believe that either Movin' or Jack, if they are in fact the oldies formats of the present day, will be as broad-based as K-EARTH.

But I do believe that 35 or 40 years is a long time for the same records to be getting daily airplay. It's some kind of record (of the historic, not the sound reproduction type), not even seen in daily radio on major stations in our parents' generation, as hidebound as we thought them to be when we were teenagers listening to KHJ. And I don't think that record will go a lot farther.

To the people that own radio stations, a listener between 35 and 40 is getting a little too close to the upper end of the demo. Records that old are beyond consideration.

Any of these sound familiar?

"Some of These Days" by Sophie Tucker with Ted Lewis's Jazz Band
"Valencia (A Song of Spain)" by Paul Whiteman & His Orchestra
"When the Red, Red Robin Comes Bob-Bob-Bobbin' Along" Paul Whiteman & His Orchestra
"He's The Last Word" by Ben Pollock & His Californians
"When My Baby Smiles At Me" by Ted Lewis & His Jazz Band
"In A Little Spanish Town" by Paul Whiteman & His Orchestra
"Red Hot Henry Brown" by Margaret Young
"Ya Gotta Know How To Love" by Esther Walker
"Black Bottom" by Johnny Hamp's Kentucky Serenaders
"Do, Do, Do" by Gertrude Lawrence

Well, in 1966, when we were listening to the Beatles and the Stones and the Spoonful, those were 40-year old records...the Top 10 from 1926. Not a one of 'em getting play on KMPC or KFI.

Improvements in technology, support from inclusion in commercials and movies and the fact that some (but by no means all) of today's music has its roots in rock has kept 1966 music from being as completely alien to the younger (under 35) people of today as the list above is to us, but not by a lot. I can't blame radio station owners for recognizing that and attempting to serve an audience born after 1971.

---Michael Hagerty
 
I see your point, and we are on the same page.

I think oldies usually meant popular mass music from 1 or 2 decades back.

But once you hit the late 60s, the concept of popular mass music stopped.

There was no popular mass radio format after the 1970s. Music in the 1980s had already fragmented into many specializedd formats. Crossovers ended.

KRTH is stuck in the 60/70s because there is nowhere left to go. Jack might be a small step in the direction of back to mass appeal, but I doubt it. More likely, it is an example that people are bored with narrow formats, tested music and small playlists.
 
Thank you for the link to KRTH, Mattii.

Oddly when you sign up to listen - you are sent an email that welcomes to KRTH from the email address [email protected] with the following message:

Thank you for registering for AM 1090's online stream. In just a minute you'll be able to listen to AM 1090 live on your computer anytime you want. It'll be just like what you hear on the radio

I hope you enjoy the AM 1090 online stream. We've worked hard to make sure it's the best sounding station on the Internet and we'll be doing lots of special things for our Net listeners like exclusive giveaways and a few unique at-work surprises. Just keep listening while you're on the job for the stress free music that'll help the work day fly by!

To finalize your registration for the AM 1090 online stream CLICK HERE and you'll be good to go.

Thanks for listening to AM 1090 online and on the radio! .

Has anyone noticed the mouse click SFX that comes up at or near the end of an element? What's up with that??

CJ
 
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