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Cost to air Limbaugh

Do those other two Lutheran programs, the second LCMS and the ELCA one have websites for online listening?
 
MikefromDelaware said:
Do those other two Lutheran programs, the second LCMS and the ELCA one have websites for online listening?

The ELCA radio program is called "Grace Matters".

On the website is this notice:

Welcome to the home page for Grace Matters.

On April 12, 2009, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America discontinued production of new programs for its radio ministry, but past programs are available on this Web site.


The Lutheran Hour has episodes available as podcasts or for streaming.
 
MikefromDelaware said:
Do those other two Lutheran programs, the second LCMS and the ELCA one have websites for online listening?

No, the ELCA program is from a local church, basically a 30-minute edit of the previous week's service, the LCMS is from an organization in Sioux City and is run on a handful of stations in northwest Iowa.

We used to run the ELCA Grace Matters program, too, until it ceased production. And we have a weekly church service, two Sundays a month from a local LCMS church. If you listen on the right Sunday, we're all Lutheran from 7:30-10am. The other weeks are Baptist or Methodist churches.

I think this is right, I'm not listening... I'm running the sound board at my church Sunday mornings, Methodist not Lutheran.
 
Sounds like an interesting station that is serving its community quite well on Sunday mornings, and offers quite a variety of religious programs Lutheran, Methodist, and Baptist.
 
Thanks, there's one more religious program we run at 10am, The Beacon, an AC music/inspirational program: http://beaconradio.org/
The rest of the time we're Hot AC, with a lot of local news, high school sports, local programming. The George Jones we play on our other FM, which is pretty much all country music.
 
MikefromDelaware said:
I believe Amos and Andy didn't get their start until 1929...

That brings up another question or two about the Mormon programs. Music and the Spoken Word is produced by Bonneville-owned KSL Salt Lake City and distributed by CBS to its radio affiliates that wish to carry it (thereby making it the longest-running network program in broadcasting history) and by Bonneville directly to stations in markets where the CBS affiliate turns it down...
is CBS radio airing the program free, or does both Music and Word pay CBS to distribute it to their affiliates? If done free or barter, is CBS Inc. or CBS radio Mormon owned as the Marriott Hotel Chain is?
...Bonneville, and therefore KSL, is Mormon-owned; KSL had been one of CBS' earliest affiliates, and the deal to carry Music & The Spoken Word is pretty much grandfathered in from the Paley days. Amos 'n' Andy was originally a syndicated program (one of the very first) through WMAQ Chicago in 1928 (Freeman Gosden and Charles Correll had been doing a similar local program, Sam 'n' Henry, for WGN since 1926); it was moved to the Blue Network of NBC in 1929, then CBS in 1939, back to NBC in 1943, and finally back to CBS in 1949, finally signing off for the last time in November 1960...
 
Thanks for the update on Bonneville and KSL and the CBS deal with Mormon Music and Spoken Word; and the history of Amos and Andy on the radio. I'm assuming the 1960 cutoff date was for both the radio and TV version of Amos and Andy. If I recall correctly, there was a court ruling which ended the show rather than poor ratings.
 
Mike said; I'm assuming the 1960 cutoff date was for both the radio and TV version of Amos and Andy.

I beleieve the rado and tv were 2 different animals. On CBS radio, "The Amos and Andy Music Hall" went off in '60. I heard the last broadcast.

TV syndication continued, as it was certainly on WCIU-tv in Chicago, which didn't sign on til 1964.
 
Bengalsfan said:
One of my clients runs a news/talk with no other station in a 70 mile radius carrying Limbaugh. He was asking me how much I thought it would cost to air the show and who to call about it. Does anyone on here have an idea on what it costs to carry the show? I'm sure it's not barter anymore. And I figure it's tied into market size. The county the station is in has a population of about 1600.

At the risk of jolting the thread back to the original question... we've got one of those small-market non-rated affiliates out in the woods and it costs us around $1000 a month. I'm not sure how typical that is, though, since we've been carrying the show for a couple of decades at this point. As somebody noted, Premiere is the syndicator, nowadays.
 
amfmxm said:
Bengalsfan said:
One of my clients runs a news/talk with no other station in a 70 mile radius carrying Limbaugh. He was asking me how much I thought it would cost to air the show and who to call about it. Does anyone on here have an idea on what it costs to carry the show? I'm sure it's not barter anymore. And I figure it's tied into market size. The county the station is in has a population of about 1600.

At the risk of jolting the thread back to the original question... we've got one of those small-market non-rated affiliates out in the woods and it costs us around $1000 a month. I'm not sure how typical that is, though, since we've been carrying the show for a couple of decades at this point. As somebody noted, Premiere is the syndicator, nowadays.

Are you saying that you can't find anyone semi-decent to work for three hours a day on the air and to spend the rest of his day selling spots in his own show that would be a net cost to you of less than $1,000 a month?
 
MikefromDelaware said:
Thanks for the update on Bonneville and KSL and the CBS deal with Mormon Music and Spoken Word; and the history of Amos and Andy on the radio. I'm assuming the 1960 cutoff date was for both the radio and TV version of Amos and Andy. If I recall correctly, there was a court ruling which ended the show rather than poor ratings.
...Amos 'n' Andy (by that time it was actually The Amos 'n' Andy Music Hall, with Gosden & Correll playing Amos, Andy and The Kingfish as disc jockeys with occasional comedy and guests between the records) left CBS Radio in 1960 because the network was phasing out most of its nighttime radio entertainment programs (Gunsmoke, Suspense and Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar continued for a couple more years after that). The TV series was only in production for two years, 1951 to 1953, but was in syndicated reruns for ten years after that. In 1961, Gosden & Correll used the voices for Andy and The Kingfish and applied them to cartoon characters in an ABC series, Calvin & The Colonel, which only ran for one season but was extensively rerun in Australia throughout the '60s and '70s (four episodes of that series are downloadable at archive.org). The only court decision I can recall related to Amos 'n' Andy was when an attempt was made to stage a Broadway play based on the characters and early scripts of the radio series, titled "Fresh Air Taxi," and CBS claimed it owned the characters. The court decided in Silverman v. CBS that all material relating to the programs prior to CBS' purchasing of the rights in 1948 had lapsed into the public domain, while all material from 1949 onwards was owned by CBS (including the complete run of the television series)...
 
Prais said:
Mike said; I'm assuming the 1960 cutoff date was for both the radio and TV version of Amos and Andy.

I beleieve the rado and tv were 2 different animals. On CBS radio, "The Amos and Andy Music Hall" went off in '60. I heard the last broadcast.

TV syndication continued, as it was certainly on WCIU-tv in Chicago, which didn't sign on til 1964.

We ran a program through the early 90's called the Best of Radio's Christmas Past. Included among the episodes was the Amos & Andy Christmas show. It was uncut except for the original shows commercials. It's the one where Andy gets a job in a department store as a Santa in order to buy a doll Arbadella wants for Christmas.

I still have the programs and my 28 year old son has a copy that he plays every Christmas of these classic shows.
 
amfmxm said:
Bengalsfan said:
One of my clients runs a news/talk with no other station in a 70 mile radius carrying Limbaugh. He was asking me how much I thought it would cost to air the show and who to call about it. Does anyone on here have an idea on what it costs to carry the show? I'm sure it's not barter anymore. And I figure it's tied into market size. The county the station is in has a population of about 1600.

At the risk of jolting the thread back to the original question... we've got one of those small-market non-rated affiliates out in the woods and it costs us around $1000 a month. I'm not sure how typical that is, though, since we've been carrying the show for a couple of decades at this point. As somebody noted, Premiere is the syndicator, nowadays.

Finally, an answer to the question! I had placed a couple of calls to other smaller stations that carry Limbaugh and that's about what they are paying, too. They can sell that easily. The name recognition alone on Limbaugh's name brings in a grand for some of them.

And Goat, yes, I did leave a zero off of that figure.....and I seems to have divided it by half. :-\
 
Bengalsfan said:
One of my clients runs a news/talk with no other station in a 70 mile radius carrying Limbaugh. He was asking me how much I thought it would cost to air the show and who to call about it. Does anyone on here have an idea on what it costs to carry the show?

It costs the station it’s reputation!
 
kc1ih said:
Bengalsfan said:
One of my clients runs a news/talk with no other station in a 70 mile radius carrying Limbaugh. He was asking me how much I thought it would cost to air the show and who to call about it. Does anyone on here have an idea on what it costs to carry the show?

It costs the station it’s reputation!
...at least to any listener with a functioning brain...
 
Ultimajock said:
kc1ih said:
Bengalsfan said:
One of my clients runs a news/talk with no other station in a 70 mile radius carrying Limbaugh. He was asking me how much I thought it would cost to air the show and who to call about it. Does anyone on here have an idea on what it costs to carry the show?

It costs the station it’s reputation!
...at least to any listener with a functioning brain...

So, how does that have a negative impact on attracting listeners who like listening to talk radio?
 
Ultimajock said:
kc1ih said:
Bengalsfan said:
One of my clients runs a news/talk with no other station in a 70 mile radius carrying Limbaugh. He was asking me how much I thought it would cost to air the show and who to call about it. Does anyone on here have an idea on what it costs to carry the show?

It costs the station it’s reputation!
...at least to any listener with a functioning brain...

Just more sour grapes at Limbaugh's success.
 
Bengalsfan said:
Ultimajock said:
kc1ih said:
Bengalsfan said:
One of my clients runs a news/talk with no other station in a 70 mile radius carrying Limbaugh. He was asking me how much I thought it would cost to air the show and who to call about it. Does anyone on here have an idea on what it costs to carry the show?

It costs the station it’s reputation!
...at least to any listener with a functioning brain...
Just more sour grapes at Limbaugh's success.
Sounds like you're right.
 
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