Do those other two Lutheran programs, the second LCMS and the ELCA one have websites for online listening?
MikefromDelaware said:Do those other two Lutheran programs, the second LCMS and the ELCA one have websites for online listening?
MikefromDelaware said:Do those other two Lutheran programs, the second LCMS and the ELCA one have websites for online listening?
...Bonneville, and therefore KSL, is Mormon-owned; KSL had been one of CBS' earliest affiliates, and the deal to carry Music & The Spoken Word is pretty much grandfathered in from the Paley days. Amos 'n' Andy was originally a syndicated program (one of the very first) through WMAQ Chicago in 1928 (Freeman Gosden and Charles Correll had been doing a similar local program, Sam 'n' Henry, for WGN since 1926); it was moved to the Blue Network of NBC in 1929, then CBS in 1939, back to NBC in 1943, and finally back to CBS in 1949, finally signing off for the last time in November 1960...MikefromDelaware said:I believe Amos and Andy didn't get their start until 1929...
That brings up another question or two about the Mormon programs. Music and the Spoken Word is produced by Bonneville-owned KSL Salt Lake City and distributed by CBS to its radio affiliates that wish to carry it (thereby making it the longest-running network program in broadcasting history) and by Bonneville directly to stations in markets where the CBS affiliate turns it down...
is CBS radio airing the program free, or does both Music and Word pay CBS to distribute it to their affiliates? If done free or barter, is CBS Inc. or CBS radio Mormon owned as the Marriott Hotel Chain is?
Bengalsfan said:One of my clients runs a news/talk with no other station in a 70 mile radius carrying Limbaugh. He was asking me how much I thought it would cost to air the show and who to call about it. Does anyone on here have an idea on what it costs to carry the show? I'm sure it's not barter anymore. And I figure it's tied into market size. The county the station is in has a population of about 1600.
amfmxm said:Bengalsfan said:One of my clients runs a news/talk with no other station in a 70 mile radius carrying Limbaugh. He was asking me how much I thought it would cost to air the show and who to call about it. Does anyone on here have an idea on what it costs to carry the show? I'm sure it's not barter anymore. And I figure it's tied into market size. The county the station is in has a population of about 1600.
At the risk of jolting the thread back to the original question... we've got one of those small-market non-rated affiliates out in the woods and it costs us around $1000 a month. I'm not sure how typical that is, though, since we've been carrying the show for a couple of decades at this point. As somebody noted, Premiere is the syndicator, nowadays.
...Amos 'n' Andy (by that time it was actually The Amos 'n' Andy Music Hall, with Gosden & Correll playing Amos, Andy and The Kingfish as disc jockeys with occasional comedy and guests between the records) left CBS Radio in 1960 because the network was phasing out most of its nighttime radio entertainment programs (Gunsmoke, Suspense and Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar continued for a couple more years after that). The TV series was only in production for two years, 1951 to 1953, but was in syndicated reruns for ten years after that. In 1961, Gosden & Correll used the voices for Andy and The Kingfish and applied them to cartoon characters in an ABC series, Calvin & The Colonel, which only ran for one season but was extensively rerun in Australia throughout the '60s and '70s (four episodes of that series are downloadable at archive.org). The only court decision I can recall related to Amos 'n' Andy was when an attempt was made to stage a Broadway play based on the characters and early scripts of the radio series, titled "Fresh Air Taxi," and CBS claimed it owned the characters. The court decided in Silverman v. CBS that all material relating to the programs prior to CBS' purchasing of the rights in 1948 had lapsed into the public domain, while all material from 1949 onwards was owned by CBS (including the complete run of the television series)...MikefromDelaware said:Thanks for the update on Bonneville and KSL and the CBS deal with Mormon Music and Spoken Word; and the history of Amos and Andy on the radio. I'm assuming the 1960 cutoff date was for both the radio and TV version of Amos and Andy. If I recall correctly, there was a court ruling which ended the show rather than poor ratings.
Prais said:Mike said; I'm assuming the 1960 cutoff date was for both the radio and TV version of Amos and Andy.
I beleieve the rado and tv were 2 different animals. On CBS radio, "The Amos and Andy Music Hall" went off in '60. I heard the last broadcast.
TV syndication continued, as it was certainly on WCIU-tv in Chicago, which didn't sign on til 1964.
amfmxm said:Bengalsfan said:One of my clients runs a news/talk with no other station in a 70 mile radius carrying Limbaugh. He was asking me how much I thought it would cost to air the show and who to call about it. Does anyone on here have an idea on what it costs to carry the show? I'm sure it's not barter anymore. And I figure it's tied into market size. The county the station is in has a population of about 1600.
At the risk of jolting the thread back to the original question... we've got one of those small-market non-rated affiliates out in the woods and it costs us around $1000 a month. I'm not sure how typical that is, though, since we've been carrying the show for a couple of decades at this point. As somebody noted, Premiere is the syndicator, nowadays.
Bengalsfan said:One of my clients runs a news/talk with no other station in a 70 mile radius carrying Limbaugh. He was asking me how much I thought it would cost to air the show and who to call about it. Does anyone on here have an idea on what it costs to carry the show?
...at least to any listener with a functioning brain...kc1ih said:Bengalsfan said:One of my clients runs a news/talk with no other station in a 70 mile radius carrying Limbaugh. He was asking me how much I thought it would cost to air the show and who to call about it. Does anyone on here have an idea on what it costs to carry the show?
It costs the station it’s reputation!
Ultimajock said:...at least to any listener with a functioning brain...kc1ih said:Bengalsfan said:One of my clients runs a news/talk with no other station in a 70 mile radius carrying Limbaugh. He was asking me how much I thought it would cost to air the show and who to call about it. Does anyone on here have an idea on what it costs to carry the show?
It costs the station it’s reputation!
Ultimajock said:...at least to any listener with a functioning brain...kc1ih said:Bengalsfan said:One of my clients runs a news/talk with no other station in a 70 mile radius carrying Limbaugh. He was asking me how much I thought it would cost to air the show and who to call about it. Does anyone on here have an idea on what it costs to carry the show?
It costs the station it’s reputation!
Sounds like you're right.Bengalsfan said:Just more sour grapes at Limbaugh's success.Ultimajock said:...at least to any listener with a functioning brain...kc1ih said:Bengalsfan said:One of my clients runs a news/talk with no other station in a 70 mile radius carrying Limbaugh. He was asking me how much I thought it would cost to air the show and who to call about it. Does anyone on here have an idea on what it costs to carry the show?
It costs the station it’s reputation!