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Country Gold is gone

For those of us outside the listening range of 105.1 and trying to keep score at home...

Is the HD2 still Classical? Streaming not available.

Is the HD3 still Oldies, but without the K -Surf branding? Streaming not available.

At least the HD4 Smooth Jazz is streaming. But wouldn't this be a better fit on a KKJZ HD subchannel?
 
ayyyy, I can add 1260 back to my car & shower radio presets! Kind of a shame that classic country has disappeared altogether, if it was my call I would've booted the classical... but it's all Saul's call at the end of the day. I appreciate the adjustment on 1260.
 
Yesterday, Aug. 1, while cleaning the nav screen on my car, I scanned AM. listened and noticed 1260 was jazz, today, Sat. morning, 1260 is back to classical.
 
BLA said:
Yesterday, Aug. 1, while cleaning the nav screen on my car, I scanned AM. listened and noticed 1260 was jazz, today, Sat. morning, 1260 is back to classical.
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It's one thing to do multiple format flips, but a different format every day? We'll have to see what happens. One certainty, Saul sure keeps us talking about his 1260.
 
Perhaps in the process of creating the new format, it got sent to the 1260 transmitter in Mission Hills accidentally.
 
Loverofradio said:
Someone tell Saul to hire me and flip 1260 to sports. Give me a year, and I’ll draw 2.5 (6+) on that signal
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Never happen. I know Saul and he has no interest in that format, especially in a market that barely supports the sports-formatted stations we already have.
 
Loverofradio said:
Someone tell Saul to hire me and flip 1260 to sports. Give me a year, and I’ll draw 2.5 (6+) on that signal
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Well, lessee here....if you did that...

  • You'd be tied for 17th (with KKGO).
  • You'd be the second-highest-rated AM standalone (behind KFI at #9 with a 3.8).
  • You'd have almost a full point more than the next-highest rated AM standalone, KLAC, which has the benefit of the Dodgers games, a much stronger signal and is currently tied for 26th with a 1.6.

Pretty big hill to climb there in a year (if at all) in the toughest market in America.
 
KilowattKat said:
Oh my! Smooth Jazz, now that's a new one.
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It's what Saul does---a format no longer on a major signal that appeals to people in their 70s. He did standards until most of the audience was dead, switched to oldies, found that's an 80+ audience today, and now is hoping the 1980s thirtysomethings might have a little nostalgia for smooth jazz.

I'll turn 70 in seven months and I do have a little nostalgia for smooth jazz---but not on AM. Not even on digital AM.

But as I've said here for years, if you had 1260 in L.A., what would you do that's better (we've already heard from Loverofradio)? If Saul leased the signal out to ethnic or religious broadcasters, he'd make money (we've been told repeatedly that 1260 doesn't even make enough to pay its own power bill).

Instead, Saul chooses to actually put something listenable on the air with minimal commercial interruption (though, again, more commercials would be a good thing for him---IF he could sell them).
 
michael hagerty said:
But as I've said here for years, if you had 1260 in L.A., what would you do that's better (we've already heard from Loverofradio)? If Saul leased the signal out to ethnic or religious broadcasters, he'd make money (we've been told repeatedly that 1260 doesn't even make enough to pay its own power bill).
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A marginal AM in LA? Hooboy! That's not an easy one for obvious reasons. Sports would be an option, but it would cost money to do it right (local hosts) and Saul hates it.

Brokered ethnic would probably pay the bills, but would probably be too boring for Saul.

Stay away from classical or jazz. There are non-com FM stations already doing that. And any format featuring music recorded after 1980.

So I guess that leaves oldies. At least nobody else is doing it. Same with classic country.

But what I'd consider doing is R&B oldies. Similar to WDIA or WDAS. But Saul is not equipped to do that at all. Their setup is built around a country station, for cryin' out loud. But I always figured that R&B oldies from the 60s and 70s would play well, especially in a market with a sizeable African-American population and strong business structure. Much of the music was engineered to sound good on AM as well. And there's a little history too - KDAY was on an AM frequency up until the late 80s-early 90s.

So, while that idea is way outside Saul's wheelhouse, that's what I'd consider trying. More interesting than leasing it out to non-hispanic ethnic groups.
 
Fighting Irish said:
But what I'd consider doing is R&B oldies. Similar to WDIA or WDAS. But Saul is not equipped to do that at all. Their setup is built around a country station, for cryin' out loud.
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I'm not sure that's a disqualifier. There's also a jazz station (KKJZ) under the roof and he's done standards and oldies. In fact, there's arguably a throughline between Smooth Jazz and R&B oldies---it's the first material smooth jazz folded into the formula when it began to lose altitude in the early 90s.

Music libraries are downloads. No sweat.

Fighting Irish said:
But I always figured that R&B oldies from the 60s and 70s would play well, especially in a market with a sizeable African-American population and strong business structure. Much of the music was engineered to sound good on AM as well. And there's a little history too - KDAY was on an AM frequency up until the late 80s-early 90s.
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I actually can't find fault with it. It would probably do better than anything else.
 


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