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Court reaffirms CPB's independence

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TheBigA said:
Back to the original topic of this thread, the DOJ yesterday filed a lawsuit against the three fired CPB board members:


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Trump’s DOJ sues to oust Hollywood movie CEO and 2 others from broadcasting board, citing medieval legal tool

The Department of Justice filed a rare action against three Corporation for Public Broadcasting board members.
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Of course the whole thing could be moot, since congress is considering rescinding all federal funding to CPB. Doing that would effectively end CPB.
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This aint going to be pretty.. diane Kaplan is the widow of Mel Sather, a long time force in the engineering side of radio in this state and her son is Charles Sather, the COO of KNBA 90.3/Native Voice One Network...... the family has a big history of devoting their life to public radio in the state and her being part of the Rasmussen foundation. They won't go down easy.
 
umfan said:
nypost.com

Vance casts tie-breaking votes to move forward $9.4B rescissions package — which would defund PBS and NPR — in Senate

Three Republicans – Sens. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) and Susan Collins (R-Maine) – joined all Democrats in opposition to the bill.
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The Bill is heading to passage in the Senate and the House will accept the amended version. This is happening.
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Im glad so many thing f&*king rural station who will die without this funding is a good thing, not saying you.. but so many think that
 
SomeRadioGuy said:
Im glad so many thing f&*king rural station who will die without this funding is a good thing, not saying you.. but so many think that
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I really don't think that will happen, but I guess a few stations might close up shop. In the current environment, stations regularly are being taken off the air. I feel for all employees that are affected, but regard the recission action as appropriate.
 
umfan said:
The Bill is heading to passage in the Senate and the House will accept the amended version. This is happening.
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You miswrote, "they'll blindly fall in line like lemmings."
umfan said:
I really don't think that will happen, but I guess a few stations might close up shop. In the current environment, stations regularly are being taken off the air.
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What a callous thing to say about the last remaining part of terrestrial radio and over-the-air television that was still viable. A dial littered with nothing but godcasters and paleoconservative talk radio cannot and will not survive and this will be the death knell of an entire industry. Maybe even two.
umfan said:
but regard the recission action as appropriate.
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No it wasn't. This was a purely political move by an old, vengeful man and his pliable, supple political party that bends to his every whim and demand—no matter how offensive or extraconstitutional—like clockwork.

In any event, terrestrial radio and over-the-air television was nice while it lasted.
 
TheBigA said:
Back to the original topic of this thread, the DOJ yesterday filed a lawsuit against the three fired CPB board members:


www.aol.com

Trump’s DOJ sues to oust Hollywood movie CEO and 2 others from broadcasting board, citing medieval legal tool

The Department of Justice filed a rare action against three Corporation for Public Broadcasting board members.
www.aol.com www.aol.com

Of course the whole thing could be moot, since congress is considering rescinding all federal funding to CPB. Doing that would effectively end CPB.
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This administration is certainly trying to cover all of its bases. If it loses in the Senate, it can fall back on the Courts, particularly the U.S. Supreme Court.
 
TheBigA said:
Procedural vote to advance the bill to a vote passes by 51-50. They'll debate on Wednesday.

Collins, Murkowski, and McConnell were the three no votes.

www.nbcnews.com

Senate Republicans narrowly advance Trump's $9 billion spending cut package

GOP senators said they would remove $400 million in cuts to PEPFAR from the rescissions proposal, which targets foreign aid and public broadcasting, ahead of a Friday deadline.
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They had to make some changes to get it to pass. Rounds of SD got money for tribal radio.
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Yes, they made minor changes to get the needed support. That was anticipated. The CPB/NPR cuts remain untouched as well as other cuts. Collins killed her credibility. She was given a concession and still voted no. It's less likely she'll be accommodated in the future. McConnell was hoping he'd be able to stick it to the President the way Burr did several years ago, but the President and GOP leadership upped their game since then preventing that.

Johnson has the House teed up to pass this once the Senate completes today.
 
ted chittenden said:
This administration is certainly trying to cover all of its bases. If it loses in the Senate, it can fall back on the Courts, particularly the U.S. Supreme Court.
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I suspect they continue to pursue it because it could establish precedent for some other planned actions.
 
umfan said:
Johnson has the House teed up to pass this once the Senate completes today.
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Your eagerness to see public broadcasting—and for that matter, all of linear media—killed off like this is honestly sickening and highly offensive when I know multiple people who will be without a job due to this wholly unnecessary act.

I am in favor of this thread getting locked tbqh.
 
umfan said:
I think I called it correctly.
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While you are most likely correct, you can truly say that you have called it correctly *only* after the final vote has been scheduled, because when that vote has been scheduled, you will know that Senator Thune is certain that he has enough votes to pass the rescission.
 
umfan said:
That was anticipated. The CPB/NPR cuts remain untouched as well as other cuts. Collins killed her credibility. She was given a concession and still voted no.
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What Collins said is true. The letter doesn't specify what programs will be cut. Senators think they're cutting NPR. In fact, only $6 million goes to NPR, and half of it is for the satellite system. None of it goes to NPR News. But the senators don't know that. They also don't know they they're cutting millions of dollars to their own states. They're just doing what they're told.

Collins defended her “no” vote by arguing that OMB didn’t provide senators with details about what programs would be scrapped as a result of the clawback. “The rescissions package has a big problem — nobody really knows what program reductions are in it,” she said in a statement. “That isn’t because we haven’t had time to review the bill. Instead, the problem is that OMB has never provided the details that would normally be part of this process.”
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umfan said:
I suspect they continue to pursue it because it could establish precedent for some other planned actions.
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Absolutely. They're not done attacking public broadcasting. Saving taxpayer money was not the endgame, and that was made clear earlier.
 
TheBigA said:
What Collins said is true. The letter doesn't specify what programs will be cut. Senators think they're cutting NPR. In fact, only $6 million goes to NPR, and half of it is for the satellite system. None of it goes to NPR News. But the senators don't know that. They also don't know they they're cutting millions of dollars to their own states. They're just doing what they're told.





Absolutely. They're not done attacking public broadcasting. Saving taxpayer money was not the endgame, and that was made clear earlier.
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That's the purpose of compromise. If she isn't going to support unless she gets all she wants, she'll be maneuvered around as an obstacle and forfeit ability to have her priorities considered for negotiation.
 
ted chittenden said:
While you are most likely correct, you can truly say that you have called it correctly *only* after the final vote has been scheduled, because when that vote has been scheduled, you will know that Senator Thune is certain that he has enough votes to pass the rescission.
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Agreed.
 
umfan said:
That's the purpose of compromise. If she isn't going to support unless she gets all she wants, she'll be maneuvered around as an obstacle and forfeit ability to have her priorities considered for negotiation.
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There's nothing to compromise about an extreme act. And Sen. Collins is up for reelection in 2028.
 
umfan said:
That's the purpose of compromise. If she isn't going to support unless she gets all she wants, she'll be maneuvered around as an obstacle and forfeit ability to have her priorities considered for negotiation.
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It really didn't matter. They don't need her vote. They have three votes to spare. If the other Alaska senator joined Murkowski, it would have been defeated, or McConnell would have been a yes vote. It's just a game. The point is it's an unpopular bill. They know it's unpopular, but they're voting for it anyway.
 
TheBigA said:
It really didn't matter. They don't need her vote. They have three votes to spare. If the other Alaska senator joined Murkowski, it would have been defeated, or McConnell would have been a yes vote. It's just a game. The point is it's an unpopular bill. They know it's unpopular, but they're voting for it anyway.
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Not really unpopular. Most Americans would agree that some spending needs to be cut and would likely conclude that the very minor spending cuts covered by this bill contain little, if anything, meaningful to their lives.
 
umfan said:
Not really unpopular. Most Americans would agree that some spending needs to be cut and would likely conclude that the very minor spending cuts covered by this bill contain little, if anything, meaningful to their lives.
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I posted polls earlier in this thread, and these specific cuts are not popular, even among repubs. The fact that these votes were so close is indicative of how unpopular this is. $1 billion is a drop in the bucket for a multi-trillion dollar budget. This isn't about saving money, and everyone knows it. And as I said, it won't end with defunding CPB. It's just the first step. It doesn't matter if it's popular or not. They're not doing this to win elections.
 
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