Cox & The Dixie Chicks!!!

[OldiesCat]

Dixie Chicks

"In the U.S.A., it is not only O.K. to disagree with our government, but it is a right protected by our nation's constitution. ...Just because we may disagree with what they say doesn't mean we shouldn't also applaud the courage it took for them to say it."

I agree that disagreeing with the president, the Dixie Chicks or anyone else is a constitutionally protected right. As far as I know no one has said it isn't. But I don't see the logic in feeling obligated to applaud someone for having the courage to say someting really stupid.

But, again- "stupid" to who? They've been bashed and trashed and called every name in the book for expressing an opinion. We can do that here. Many are suggesting they "shouldn't". Why not? If they had done the same thing but their opinion was about anti-war protesters, 99.9% of the critics would have loved it, yet in either case, all they are doing is expressing an opinion.

 

[raccoonradio]

They have the right to say what they want and also the obligation to take responsibility for what they say.
I have the right to ignore them if they insult me and other country fans like me. If they want to ignore
their fan base and become the house band for Air America, go right ahead girls...just don't blame anyone else
if you start getting hurt in the wallet/purse.

They could have come out and said, "Look, we don't like what the President is doing" without insulting their
fanbase. Our soldiers fight and die for the right of free speech and our other freedoms but free speech
has consequences. Not everyone is going to agree with you, girls, and don't be so thin-skinned--if you're
gonna say what you'd like to say, then accept the fact that not everyone agrees!

http://www.fortliberty.org/patriotic-humor/patriotic-pictures/dixie-chicks-saddam.jpg

 

[OldiesCat]

Dixie Chicks

They have the right to say what they want and also the obligation to take responsibility for what they say.
I have the right to ignore them if they insult me and other country fans like me. If they want to ignore
their fan base and become the house band for Air America, go right ahead girls...just don't blame anyone else
if you start getting hurt in the wallet/purse.

They could have come out and said, "Look, we don't like what the President is doing" without insulting their
fanbase. Our soldiers fight and die for the right of free speech and our other freedoms but free speech
has consequences. Not everyone is going to agree with you, girls, and don't be so thin-skinned--if you're
gonna say what you'd like to say, then accept the fact that not everyone agrees!

http://www.fortliberty.org/patriotic-humor/patriotic-pictures/dixie-chicks-saddam.jpg

But they understand what the fan base might say. They have never backed away from what they said. In fact, it would appropirate to view them as pretty corageous, considering the backlash. People with lesser values and conviction would have immediately backed off, put out some fake apologies just to keep selling records, etc. They made the choice not to and should be commended for stick with their convictions.

I get a real kick out of many on the right who continue to back President Bush and applaud him for "sticking with his convictions" in the face of tremendous criticism, yet the Dixie Chicks do the same and they're slammed by the same people. It's such hypocritical behavior that just cost the right in the recent elections.

 

[smashedcd]

ok well fk country (redneck pop ) radio. the dixie chicks rock. who needs lame ass programmers telling anyone who to listen to. long live xm radio! the chicks are all over hwy 16! country radio= hick redneck right wingers!

 

[smashedcd]

ps i am ashamed of our president also. for lying to get us into his daddys war. btw my best friend is in iraq so yes i do support our troops. but not their leader!

 

[smashedcd]

It's such hypocritical behavior that just cost the right in the recent elections.

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[john77]

i am a dixie chicks fan. i dont listen to fm country radio. what a horrible format. its ok if jackson brown or bruce springsteen bashes bush but its not ok if the chicks do? wtf?

It's not OK for Jackson Brown, the Boss or the chicks to bash on anyone, let alone the President.

The problem with the chicks isn't so much they bashed on Bush, it's what the did post-incident... they bashed on their own fans, and also Country music stations - even those that CONTINUED to support them after the incident!!! Other things, such as the shots at other Country artists like Toby Keith, and that infamous porn magazine cover a few years back have hurt them as well.

They are reaping what they have sown... to the tune of 14 cancelled US dates, and attendance which in many cities is 50% or less of what it was on their last major US tour. Their album is struggling in the lower half of the album chart only 6 months after release... it's not even at 30% of the units their last commercial release sold. All in all, you would have to consider this project a huge commercial flop.

get over it. it's america. it's OK to disagree with the president, even publicly. and if u have this thing about "celebs shouldn't voice their political opinions", please tell me where this is in our constitution, that because you're famous or in the public eye U don't have the right to be vocal.

finally, their CD did hit #1 its first week in release. u are under the dillusion that the dixie chicks career is in ruins and they are about to go on welfare. far from it. they understand the situation, the consequences. do we only speak out in america when we're sure everybody will agree with us, when we know it won't cost us anything? that's called being politically-correct, something right wingers are supposed to abhore.

can't have it both ways you know

The VAST majority of the sales of TTLW were in the first 3 weeks of release, and if you look around, you'll see lots of stories of people picking up 5,10, even 20 of their CD's just to make a point during the initial weeks it was out... It hasn't even moved 3/4 of a million units it's past 23 weeks of release!!! It's a HUGE flop in most people's books, especially when you consider what their previous efforts did. Most critics said 3x Platinum was a given with TTLW and truth be told is they are struggling to get to even 2x Platinum... Their movie is doing horrifically bad, they are playing to arenas that aren't selling close to the number of tickets as they sold last tour and they only got a "smattering" of applause at the AMA's the other night, unlike the rest of the performers...

You can attempt to spin it however you like, the numbers don't lie though, and from a numbers perspective the current Dixie Chicks album, movie and concert sales say they are a commercial failure when compared to their past success.

the only people calling their latest cd a flop are their critics. and theres good news for U-- THE CHICKS AREN'T LOSING SLEEP OVER YOUR OPINION OF THEM

btw-their early success was stunning. how many acts, regardless of format, become one of the best-selling of their genre right out of the gate but throughout their career they keep topping what they've done previously?

(answer: VERY, VERY FEW)

I am simply pointing out the facts, and as we can see, their fans here have NO REPLY when you put the numbers and facts in front of them.

And that last part of your statement is COMPLETELY laughable... the haven't topped ANYTHING with this current effort. In terms of studio albums with new tracks, it is far and away their WORST seller to date.

Try to spin it, you can't win it.

 

[john77]

"In the U.S.A., it is not only O.K. to disagree with our government, but it is a right protected by our nation's constitution. ...Just because we may disagree with what they say doesn't mean we shouldn't also applaud the courage it took for them to say it."

I agree that disagreeing with the president, the Dixie Chicks or anyone else is a constitutionally protected right. As far as I know no one has said it isn't. But I don't see the logic in feeling obligated to applaud someone for having the courage to say someting really stupid.

That is as profound as anything on this entire thread... well put!

 

[radiofriend1]

And that last part of your statement is COMPLETELY laughable... the haven't topped ANYTHING with this current effort. In terms of studio albums with new tracks, it is far and away their WORST seller to date.

Try to spin it, you can't win it.

not true. their new cd hit #1 FIRST WEEK OUT.

deal with it

 

[smashedcd]

And that last part of your statement is COMPLETELY laughable... the haven't topped ANYTHING with this current effort. In terms of studio albums with new tracks, it is far and away their WORST seller to date.

Try to spin it, you can't win it.

not true. their new cd hit #1 FIRST WEEK OUT.

deal with it

they cant it would hurt their right wing conspiracy :

 

[PTBoardOp94]

Lots of albums hit the charts in the top five and hang in the top five for several weeks. The Chicks were on top for two weeks. And no single was higher than #37 on the country chart.

 

[OldiesCat]

and?

Lots of albums hit the charts in the top five and hang in the top five for several weeks. The Chicks were on top for two weeks. And no single was higher than #37 on the country chart.

So what? Gotta tell ya, gang- for an act you are all but calling insignificant, you sure do spend a lot of time talking and writing about them. This isn't at all about music, it's about politics. And, as Americans, they are just as free to voice their opinions on anything they like. Whether they're still selling CDs or concert tickets is quite beside the point, despite your insistance on trying to make the case they are abject failures now.

Move on, please. You're really beginning to bore me.

 

[smashedcd]

Lots of albums hit the charts in the top five and hang in the top five for several weeks. The Chicks were on top for two weeks. And no single was higher than #37 on the country chart.

thats because of stupid ass programmers and CONsultants not adding the song!! duh!! :

 

[john77]

Lots of albums hit the charts in the top five and hang in the top five for several weeks. The Chicks were on top for two weeks. And no single was higher than #37 on the country chart.

thats because of stupid ass programmers and CONsultants not adding the song!! duh!! :

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Stations NATIONWIDE were getting calls from listeners saying they didn't want to hear them on their radio stations... research showed it as well... the reason the stations stopped playing was because they didn't want to hurt their ratings... it's really that simple.

Bottom line is you can't put any positive spin on a faliure.

 

[john77]

And that last part of your statement is COMPLETELY laughable... the haven't topped ANYTHING with this current effort. In terms of studio albums with new tracks, it is far and away their WORST seller to date.

Try to spin it, you can't win it.

not true. their new cd hit #1 FIRST WEEK OUT.

deal with it

Anyone with good marketing and any sort of fanbase can hit #1 first week out... and when you have the left wing of the media behind you, some big numbers can happen. It also didn't hurt that you had people buying 5, 10 or even 20+ copies of the CD in the early weeks to make a statement... the album has sold more in it's 1st 3 weeks than it has in the past 23 weeks COMBINED by a very wide margin. You can look at ANY other album in the top 100 of the chart, and you're not going to find another who did so well initially and has done so poorly after the initial hype. You have to put this album right alongside the new Jessica Simpson and Janet Jackson albums as amongst the biggest flops of 2006.

 

[OldiesCat]

not quite

Stations NATIONWIDE were getting calls from listeners saying they didn't want to hear them on their radio stations... research showed it as well... the reason the stations stopped playing was because they didn't want to hurt their ratings... it's really that simple.

Bottom line is you can't put any positive spin on a faliure.

Actually, most of that initial wave of discontent was generated by conservative political groups bent on making those who voiced dissent about the war in Iraq pay dearly for speaking out. The campaign was swiftly organized and orchestrated, then publicized as listener backlash- only then did country radio programmers and listeners hop on board (albiet blindly).

To their credit, it was brilliant grass roots marketing.

 

[radiofriend1]

And that last part of your statement is COMPLETELY laughable... the haven't topped ANYTHING with this current effort. In terms of studio albums with new tracks, it is far and away their WORST seller to date.

Try to spin it, you can't win it.

not true. their new cd hit #1 FIRST WEEK OUT.

deal with it

Anyone with good marketing and any sort of fanbase can hit #1 first week out... and when you have the left wing of the media behind you, some big numbers can happen. It also didn't hurt that you had people buying 5, 10 or even 20+ copies of the CD in the early weeks to make a statement... the album has sold more in it's 1st 3 weeks than it has in the past 23 weeks COMBINED by a very wide margin. You can look at ANY other album in the top 100 of the chart, and you're not going to find another who did so well initially and has done so poorly after the initial hype. You have to put this album right alongside the new Jessica Simpson and Janet Jackson albums as amongst the biggest flops of 2006.

well whatever. it is obvious you have a grudge against them. B.F.D. you hate the dixie chicks, great. SO WHAT???????????????

 

[smashedcd]

And that last part of your statement is COMPLETELY laughable... the haven't topped ANYTHING with this current effort. In terms of studio albums with new tracks, it is far and away their WORST seller to date.

Try to spin it, you can't win it.

not true. their new cd hit #1 FIRST WEEK OUT.

deal with it

Anyone with good marketing and any sort of fanbase can hit #1 first week out... and when you have the left wing of the media behind you, some big numbers can happen. It also didn't hurt that you had people buying 5, 10 or even 20+ copies of the CD in the early weeks to make a statement... the album has sold more in it's 1st 3 weeks than it has in the past 23 weeks COMBINED by a very wide margin. You can look at ANY other album in the top 100 of the chart, and you're not going to find another who did so well initially and has done so poorly after the initial hype. You have to put this album right alongside the new Jessica Simpson and Janet Jackson albums as amongst the biggest flops of 2006.

well whatever. it is obvious you have a grudge against them. B.F.D. you hate the dixie chicks, great. SO WHAT???????????????

at least they are actual music. not like the crap they play on country radio in 2006 :

 

[radiofriend1]

but if they don't wave the red white n' blue with every song like toby keith they're *UN=AMERICAN*

so much for freedom & democracy, right

 

[john77]

And that last part of your statement is COMPLETELY laughable... the haven't topped ANYTHING with this current effort. In terms of studio albums with new tracks, it is far and away their WORST seller to date.

Try to spin it, you can't win it.

not true. their new cd hit #1 FIRST WEEK OUT.

deal with it

Anyone with good marketing and any sort of fanbase can hit #1 first week out... and when you have the left wing of the media behind you, some big numbers can happen. It also didn't hurt that you had people buying 5, 10 or even 20+ copies of the CD in the early weeks to make a statement... the album has sold more in it's 1st 3 weeks than it has in the past 23 weeks COMBINED by a very wide margin. You can look at ANY other album in the top 100 of the chart, and you're not going to find another who did so well initially and has done so poorly after the initial hype. You have to put this album right alongside the new Jessica Simpson and Janet Jackson albums as amongst the biggest flops of 2006.

well whatever. it is obvious you have a grudge against them. B.F.D. you hate the dixie chicks, great. SO WHAT???????????????

It has nothing to do with a grudge or hatred... I'm simply educating those that haven't looked closer at the numbers... and those numbers speak volumes. Case closed.