That's certainly part of it, but it's also their arrogance as is exemplified by their action in this regard.
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CPB doesn't own it. CPB funds it. There is no government ownership of anything in the system.
NPR built & owned the system until 1984. Then ownership was turned over to the stations by NPR's board. The legal action is strictly about the grant. Not ownership. The distribution system has it's own board, as you can see from my earlier post.
What "other income?"
Everyone has a right to sue. The president does it all the time. It's not arrogant to utilize one's rights.
Both sides presented their cases yesterday, and the judge has taken the case and will decide at the end of a month.
The judge didn't note any arrogance from anyone.
Robert Douglas
Banned
Trusted - by who? It's full of lies and distortions and constant references to the climate change hoax. That is fine, they have a right to their opinions. But NOT AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE."So many"? PBS and NPR are among the most trusted news sources in America:
Trust in Media 2025: Which news sources Americans use and trust
The American news landscape remains polarized by political party, with few news sources both used and trusted widely among Democrats and Republicans.today.yougov.com
Trusted by people who don't agree with you. As I've said, there was no taxpayer money used for NPR News.
As a result, the funding cut had no effect on them.
I know I should not touch the hot oven but here it goes.
What are the lies and distortions. Be specific.
According to this poll, trust in media depends on age and political party.
barrettmedia.com
Obviously if you're being told by the government that media is fake news, it will have an impact on your opinion. Regardless of the reality.
The fact of the matter is people say one thing and do another. Even the government likes to quote the media when it helps them prove their point.
Meanwhile 68% say they oppose government pressure on broadcasters:
radioink.com
Trust in Media Reaches New Lows in 2025, New Gallup Data Shows
For the first time, those who identify as Republicans saw their trust in media drop to single digits.
barrettmedia.com
Obviously if you're being told by the government that media is fake news, it will have an impact on your opinion. Regardless of the reality.
The fact of the matter is people say one thing and do another. Even the government likes to quote the media when it helps them prove their point.
Meanwhile 68% say they oppose government pressure on broadcasters:
68% of Americans Reject Government Pressure on Broadcasters - Radio Ink
A YouGov poll finds two-thirds of Americans oppose government pressure on broadcasters, as FCC Chairman Carr faces backlash and NPR sues CPB.
radioink.com
This reminds me of when a company called FBI went out of business.
Heritage Home Group took over all the operations but something called FBI Wind Down sold all its properties.
So now CPB has in fact "ceased operations." It has laid off 70% of its staff. They warn of station closures due to lack of funds.
www.insideradio.com
None of this has really affected NPR or PBS. But having fewer affiliates will affect their revenue at some point.
NPR has other outlets besides radio. They have a very robust podcasting business that appears to be gaining support.
CPB Cuts Staff, Warns Of Station Closures After Funding Rescission.
The Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB) has issued a release on the impact of the federal rescission of public media funding. With more than $1 billion in funding eliminated, CPB
None of this has really affected NPR or PBS. But having fewer affiliates will affect their revenue at some point.
NPR has other outlets besides radio. They have a very robust podcasting business that appears to be gaining support.
So now CPB has in fact "ceased operations." It has laid off 70% of its staff. They warn of station closures due to lack of funds.
CPB Cuts Staff, Warns Of Station Closures After Funding Rescission.
The Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB) has issued a release on the impact of the federal rescission of public media funding. With more than $1 billion in funding eliminated, CPB
None of this has really affected NPR or PBS. But having fewer affiliates will affect their revenue at some point.
NPR has other outlets besides radio. They have a very robust podcasting business that appears to be gaining support.
By closing down CPB, the current U.S. President was hoping to close down NPR. While that may yet happen down the road, it isn't happening *right now* and I bet he'll be very angry when he realizes this.
He's totally oblivious. Unless an NPR reporter asks him a question, he doesn't know they're there. Creating havoc was the goal. Mission accomplished.
I agree!
I also note, on a more general, but related (to monetary policy) level, that he is completely oblivious to the effects of his haphazard and ill conceived approach to tariffs, and the fact that those inane tariffs are hurting the US more severely in many ways than almost every other developed nation combined is totally lost on him.
c
I often wonder if anyone has considered the fact that a tariff is actually just a national sales tax. Think about it. Where does the money come from, where does it go? I've often heard that the current administration is all for "tax cuts" but the increased cost of all of the items we use to keep our radio stations on the air (as well as everything else we buy) far outweighs whatever savings might actually be realized someday through a reduction in whatever is labeled a tax payment.
Dave B.
Lots of people have. Just not the people currently running the government. They go on conservative media and push a different narrative.
Conservatives favor sales taxes. They oppose income taxes. The goal for some of them is to replace the national income tax with all of these consumption taxes. That would require an act of congress and that's very unlikely. They represent a very small minority of the population.
Getting back to CPB, this is why it's important to have a vibrant media service, to inform people of what's going on. Hopefully the public media system can weather this storm. Ken Burns has a new film that compares this current situation with the original revolution. There are a lot of similar works in the pipeline.
The American Revolution | All Episodes Now Streaming | Ken Burns | PBS
Thirteen colonies unite in rebellion, win their independence, and found the United States. Stream the full documentary from Ken Burns, Sarah Botstein and David Schmidt.
www.pbs.org
Ken Burns offers sneak peek at new documentary ‘The American Revolution’
The new 12-hour documentary about the United States’ origin story will begin broadcasting Nov. 16 on WHYY and other PBS stations.
whyy.org
Nope, NPR isnt going anywhere anytime soon or down the road. 2 percent or less of npr's budget came from CPBs funding.
So now CPB has in fact "ceased operations." It has laid off 70% of its staff. They warn of station closures due to lack of funds.
CPB Cuts Staff, Warns Of Station Closures After Funding Rescission.
The Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB) has issued a release on the impact of the federal rescission of public media funding. With more than $1 billion in funding eliminated, CPB
None of this has really affected NPR or PBS. But having fewer affiliates will affect their revenue at some point.
NPR has other outlets besides radio. They have a very robust podcasting business that appears to be gaining support.
At least one station in Alaska has already come close and considered it. (I wont say which one because it was a private conversation where this was shared as a consideration they already had)
KOTZ-AM/KINU FM in Kotzebue used to be 24/7 now theyre 18 hours a day
KUAC FM and translators used to be 24/7, theyre now 18 hours a day. KUAC TV is now 18 hours a day instead of 24/7 and theyve eliminated the digital sub channels on TV and one of the outerlying tv translators.
There is zero basis for this. I don't think anyone cares what NPR reports. The only role NPR played in the demise of the CPB was being an example of bias in a public broadcasting entity. Even though they weren't directly funded by the CPB, this caused many to question why direct government funding of broadcasting was necessary with the result of the demise of the CPB.
The word "many" overstates the opposition to government funding. This has always been an issue for a small group of conservatives going back to the 1960s. They size has never risen to the point of actual defunding. Funding has always passed even when repubs controlled both houses. The ONLY reason they got the votes was because of the president demanding it. Had he not, I count at least six repubs who would have voted against it in the house and at least 5 senators. The president was told this, and came out with his demand.
Also there has been no "demise" of CPB. It still exists, because the law creating it still exists.
It exists in name only, more or less. No need to debate this, but with the demise of its Government funding it's nothing more than a name in some virtual ledger with effectively no purpose.
There is no need to debate it because the fact is it exists. If it had no purpose, why does the president still want to control its board?
If he controls the board, then he controls how the money is spent. That's phase 2.
Direct government funding was provided because public broadcasting is still the most cost-effective way to provide service to underserved areas that have been abandoned by commercial broadcasters due to low population density, and have no cellphone coverage for the same reason. Those that question why direct government funding is necessary have never gone out in their driveway at the top of the hour & turned on the car radio to hear the update about the wildfire that may affect their lives (because the power is out, of course). I heard somewhere that the funding CPB received was equivalent to about $1.50 for every person in the US per year. That's a bargain. Ironically, part of the infrastructure affected was the PRSS (Public Radio Satellite System). One of its functions is to distribute official emergency information from the President of the United States.
Dave B.
Exactly what we do and has happened here, literally, no joke.