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Cumulus KC shuffle coming

Things just got more interesting…

It looks like 107.3‘s R&B/Hip-Hop format will move to 105.1 and rebrand as “Power 105.1” and that both 95.7 and 107.3 becoming a simulcast similar to its sister stations in Salt Lake City. Stay tuned…
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I truly suspected as much and it sucks you have deal with this Lance. It also “ruins the fun” so to speak.
Agree. Persons posting information that is from protected subscription sites will be suspended from Radio Discussions.

I don't want to get into a discussion about snitches and tattle-tails, but if an inappropriate post is seen, please report it to the moderators. We don't want to take the risk of being closed due to legal action because we allowed protected information to be published.
 
Speaking of, what is the entire broadcast flagship history of the Chiefs prior to The Fox gaining the rights?
KCMO, starting in 1963, the Chiefs' first year in Kansas City, going through the 1989 season. Most of those years, KCMO held the rights, but from 1981-84 Mutual had the rights and ran the team's network but KCMO still carried the games.

This information is from the scans of Broadcasting at worldradiohistory dot com. Through 1991, Broadcasting ran an annual feature on NFL teams' radio and TV networks in late July or early August of each year.

The Wikipedia article on the Chiefs ignores this history and states that KCFX gained the rights in 1989. No, it was 1990, the same year KCFX moved from its 100.7 rimshot to 101.1 in-market. That said, Wikipedia also states that KCFX had the rights through 2019, with WDAF-FM and KCSP picking them up in 2020 and I believe that is accurate.
 
KCMO, starting in 1963, the Chiefs' first year in Kansas City, going through the 1989 season. Most of those years, KCMO held the rights, but from 1981-84 Mutual had the rights and ran the team's network but KCMO still carried the games.

This information is from the scans of Broadcasting at worldradiohistory dot com. Through 1991, Broadcasting ran an annual feature on NFL teams' radio and TV networks in late July or early August of each year.

The Wikipedia article on the Chiefs ignores this history and states that KCFX gained the rights in 1989. No, it was 1990, the same year KCFX moved from its 100.7 rimshot to 101.1 in-market. That said, Wikipedia also states that KCFX had the rights through 2019, with WDAF-FM and KCSP picking them up in 2020 and I believe that is accurate.
I do remember reading a couple of months before the SB that E-com grabbed the rights starting with the 2020-2021 season.
 
Agree. Persons posting information that is from protected subscription sites will be suspended from Radio Discussions.

I don't want to get into a discussion about snitches and tattle-tails, but if an inappropriate post is seen, please report it to the moderators. We don't want to take the risk of being closed due to legal action because we allowed protected information to be published.
You don't know if he got it from there though. Maybe he knows someone in the know.
 
It usually seems like when RadioInsight gets something other sources do too, but it is strange something like this isn't more widely reported.
It's not too hard to put the pieces together. People may not like that something is paywalled, but Lance works hard for his information and he has a business he's running that relies on subscribers as well as advertisers. The TOS are posted on his site. He's sometimes given information in advance, as most reporters are, and is asked to embargo the information until a certain time. Subscribers pay a privilege in order to get the info early, but in return, we don't then spread it everywhere. Same with RadioTVDeals. Lot's of people can go there and see general information on stations, but exclusive listings require a subscription. Just like Radio Insight, we don't then go on this board and start blabbing about this group or that station going up for sale.

I talk to people everyday. I happen to know of dozens of stations for sale right now that aren't listed anywhere. But I don't spread that information publicly because it isn't MY information to share. It's the same when someone tells me about a personnel move that's coming. It's THEIR information, not mine. I've built up trust in people by not sharing confidential information that they have given me, and I expect that same commitment if I share information with them.

It's one thing to comment on a thread on this board based on publicly available free information. It's something entirely different to take paid information and share that freely as if you heard it from the source yourself. Until the member who posted the comments comes on here to defend themselves, we have to assume the information came from Radio Insight. Perhaps they'll break their silence and let us know how and where they got the information from.
 
It's not too hard to put the pieces together. People may not like that something is paywalled, but Lance works hard for his information and he has a business he's running that relies on subscribers as well as advertisers. The TOS are posted on his site. He's sometimes given information in advance, as most reporters are, and is asked to embargo the information until a certain time. Subscribers pay a privilege in order to get the info early, but in return, we don't then spread it everywhere. Same with RadioTVDeals. Lot's of people can go there and see general information on stations, but exclusive listings require a subscription. Just like Radio Insight, we don't then go on this board and start blabbing about this group or that station going up for sale.

I talk to people everyday. I happen to know of dozens of stations for sale right now that aren't listed anywhere. But I don't spread that information publicly because it isn't MY information to share. It's the same when someone tells me about a personnel move that's coming. It's THEIR information, not mine. I've built up trust in people by not sharing confidential information that they have given me, and I expect that same commitment if I share information with them.

It's one thing to comment on a thread on this board based on publicly available free information. It's something entirely different to take paid information and share that freely as if you heard it from the source yourself. Until the member who posted the comments comes on here to defend themselves, we have to assume the information came from Radio Insight. Perhaps they'll break their silence and let us know how and where they got the information from.
I never even ran into the issue of publicly vs privately shared info on any type of forum, so only1moore might have just been mistaken. Most people breeze right through tou agreements.
 
I never even ran into the issue of publicly vs privately shared info on any type of forum, so only1moore might have just been mistaken. Most people breeze right through tou agreements.
A mistake is forgetting to turn off the stove before leaving the house. It's another thing entirely to post information on a forum such as this that you got from behind a paywall as if you talked to someone inside Cumulus yourself. That's why I want to hear from him. If he has an explanation other than taking the information from Radio Insight and posting it here for reaction clicks, then he would be in the clear. I don't know. That's why I want to hear directly from him where this information came from. If he DID take it from Lance and post it without thinking, say it. That's between him and Lance, and his subscription would be forfeit. Unfortunately, silence sometimes speaks volumes.
 
It usually seems like when RadioInsight gets something other sources do too, but it is strange something like this isn't more widely reported.
Look at timestamps on stories. My story went live at 11:00 eastern time yesterday. His post 40 minutes later.

Most other radio industry news publications simply copy/paste what we report. That's why you see them elsewhere. When we publish a press release in a story we embed it as a quote. Other sites simply publish that as their story.

The domain reports are behind a paywall because I have been EXCLUSIVELY breaking format changes via domain registrations since 2005 and nobody does. This is data that executives at companies use for competitive reasons. Radiogeeks having access at a low price point is simply because I am (or was) once one of you. You do know I was the FOUNDER of this site in 1997 when I was 17 years old, right? There was no such thing as a radio industry message board before me.
If he DID take it from Lance and post it without thinking, say it. That's between him and Lance, and his subscription would be forfeit. Unfortunately, silence sometimes speaks volumes.
I have logs of when subscribers log-in to the site and can see when they read a paywalled column and compare it to the timestamp here.

I think it's time I take a hiatus from here on focus back on building what is the most read radio industry news publication.
 
Look at timestamps on stories. My story went live at 11:00 eastern time yesterday. His post 40 minutes later.

Most other radio industry news publications simply copy/paste what we report. That's why you see them elsewhere. When we publish a press release in a story we embed it as a quote. Other sites simply publish that as their story.

The domain reports are behind a paywall because I have been EXCLUSIVELY breaking format changes via domain registrations since 2005 and nobody does. This is data that executives at companies use for competitive reasons. Radiogeeks having access at a low price point is simply because I am (or was) once one of you. You do know I was the FOUNDER of this site in 1997 when I was 17 years old, right? There was no such thing as a radio industry message board before me.

I have logs of when subscribers log-in to the site and can see when they read a paywalled column and compare it to the timestamp here.

I think it's time I take a hiatus from here on focus back on building what is the most read radio industry news publication.
Thank you Lance. That's the point, folks. This is an informal discussion that is a mix of industry professionals and non-professional radio enthusiasts. A lot of what's on here is hearsay, innuendo, gossip and personal opinion, tempered by fact-checking, education and a bit of insider knowledge. It is not meant to be a news site. Radio Insight and others have to deal in facts, not personal opinion.

Here's a perfect example. A few months ago, someone came to this discussion board and posted a thread wherein they proclaimed themselves a "programming maestro" and extolled the virtues of their station and their idea of big news. I guarantee you they would have never gotten an article on a site like Radio Insight or Inside Radio or any other industry site that would have allowed the use of the term "radio maestro".

Please, folks. Don't ruin a good thing. If you get information from a news site, reference it in your comments like the moderators have asked a few dozen times.It protects them, it protects you and it gives credit to the people who work hard to bring you the information you want. It also protects your reputation among your peers on this board.
 
lances site is one of the only two industry sites i pay for, because i mroe than get my moneys worth. the other site? fybush.com's NERW
 
Not that none of us suspected otherwise, but it's actively stating it will be moving to a new home on the dial.

It's saying the move will happen at 4:00 PM, not just that it will be announced.

105.1 The X is indicating it will be going away, though it's running promotions for events in October.
 
Well, it just happened. The end of 105.1 The X was sudden. It played "Touch, Peel, and Stand" by Days of the New and went straight to Power 105.1, no announcement or anything of the like.
 
Well, it just happened. The end of 105.1 The X was sudden. It played "Touch, Peel, and Stand" by Days of the New and went straight to Power 105.1, no announcement or anything of the like.
That was one of the worst format changes I’ve ever heard…
 
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