dan york crying real tears on-air

[yoyoradio]

did anyone hear this? Friend called me Friday at 5:55 and said" put it on 99.7 FM quick". OMG..york was crying since it was his last show at that time? " Dad will go swimming"..bo hoo.Never heard anything like it. I stopped even trying to listen to this guy few years ago and I guess so did everyone else! When the ratings fall you are either fired or moved( Jay Leno anyone?) He even said it will be the same show! A failed show at a new time. I listen to Rush and cannot imagine how bad york will bomb in new slot. He is boring at 4pm, never mind 11am. When I tried to listen to him when Howie was awol, there were no callers and york rambling about ...nothing important. Yesterday he sounded like the biggest crybaby losing a toy. I like he said the move was not HIS IDEA. No way? Really? 10 years doing afternoons and you did not want to move? No really, I want to talk to 80 year old people. Thanks for clearing that up Conan. I heard the big show make mention of it and laugh. I like his song" I won't back down".."I ll just move on down"...

 

[Radiohead09]

Why so bitter yoyo?

 

[yoyoradio]

not bitter. I grew up in North Prov. but now live in Attleboro and spend most days on the road. I switch back and forth between Boston and Providence shows. I just find the guy boring. Crying on the radio? Steve White or Sherm never would have done that. York just reminds me of a bad teacher I had in high school. You have no choice to sit there as he rambles on... Not sure why that makes me bitter. Grown man crying over having to come in early to work?

 

[Skynet74]

Grown man crying over having to come in early to work?

He's more than likely crying at the prospect of his career collapsing before his very eyes. Step one: A demotion. Step two: A Pink slip. I'm not trying to be funny either. This isn't funny. It just honestly appears that they are easing him out the door.

 

[prussolino]

He wasn't crying over coming in early to work. He was crying that he had missed all his daughter's swim meets and would now be able to go to them.
The kid means the world to him
If you had heard him from the beginning, you would have heard him say that he was lucky to have a full time job, after all the people getting laid off. He even mentioned the State workers who had gotten laid off, so he considered himself lucky.
The guy is just a big softie....not the ogre he's written about on this board.
All you guys menton that a change in hours means a "demotion". Why is it that Ron has been shifted from here to there for a number of years and still manages to bring home a paycheck every week?

 

[Radiohead09]

not bitter. I grew up in North Prov. but now live in Attleboro and spend most days on the road. I switch back and forth between Boston and Providence shows. I just find the guy boring. Crying on the radio? Steve White or Sherm never would have done that. York just reminds me of a bad teacher I had in high school. You have no choice to sit there as he rambles on... Not sure why that makes me bitter. Grown man crying over having to come in early to work?

Why would you care how a talk host runs his show if you don't like the product to begin with? Why would you bother to listen??
And no I don't buy the lie "my friend called me and told me Yorke was crying on the radio so I had to tune in". Yorke got choked up talking about his daughter and it lasted about 5 seconds. Nice try yoyo! No you were listening to the show yo. Question is why would you lie about that and make up some story about a friend calling you to tune in? It's bizarre!!
Weird dude!
Why are you going to such lengths to completely mischaracterize what Yorke actually said and how he actually behaved?
You're so bitter yoyo. How come??

 

[Tee Man 82]

Grown man crying over having to come in early to work?

He's more than likely crying at the prospect of his career collapsing before his very eyes. Step one: A demotion. Step two: A Pink slip. I'm not trying to be funny either. This isn't funny. It just honestly appears that they are easing him out the door.

Skynet, how do you know what they're doing? You obviously don't listen to the show and haven't listened since these discussions began about the change in shift. You love to talk radio but don't listen to it? You're like people who talk about some upcoming controvesial movie but never actually see the movie. Maybe if certain posters confined their comments and opinions to stations they actually listen to we'd have some legitimate discussion.

 

[Silkie]

He wasn't crying over coming in early to work. He was crying that he had missed all his daughter's swim meets and would now be able to go to them.
The kid means the world to him
If you had heard him from the beginning, you would have heard him say that he was lucky to have a full time job, after all the people getting laid off. He even mentioned the State workers who had gotten laid off, so he considered himself lucky.
The guy is just a big softie....not the ogre he's written about on this board.
All you guys menton that a change in hours means a "demotion". Why is it that Ron has been shifted from here to there for a number of years and still manages to bring home a paycheck every week?

I was kind of wondering the same thing. We are in a generation in which position and power and TMZ and Facebook are where it all is; which might explain the mentality that it's all about them and being the beautiful people, except when they have to look at themselves and what they have become or are becoming. I am thinking they are probably just young and have no clue.

 

[Skynet74]

All you guys menton that a change in hours means a "demotion". Why is it that Ron has been shifted from here to there for a number of years and still manages to bring home a paycheck every week?

I'm about to get elementary for those who don't realize that specific shifts at a radio station have a lot different meaning than working different shifts at any other job. Morning drive is the most coveted spot. 6 - 10 AM. It has the most listeners and it's the shift where hosts make the most money. Sometimes a lot more. A station typically puts their best talent on in the morning.

Afternoon drive 3 - 7PM or 2 to 6PM (depending on the station) is the second most desirable spot. Everyone is coming home from work. People are stuck in their cars. So it's easy to capture listeners that way. Those are the two shifts you want when you get a job in radio. Anything other than those two shifts is considered less desirable.

So they moved Dan to a less desirable time slot. One where people usually get paid less. So yes Dan will bring home a paycheck and that is a good thing. However in radio it is not a good sign when a station has you in one of the best time slots there is, then after 10 years moves you to a time slot that is considered worse than the one you had.

In a job you expect to advance like Depetro did. Also like Cianci is. They both got rewarded. But Yorke got a virtual slap in the face for 10 years of hard work. On the surface he is staying positive. That is a great thing. But to anybody in radio, they realize that what happened to Dan is not such a great thing. They are moving him in the wrong direction and that is not the direction that any radio personality wants to go in.

 

[Skynet74]

Skynet, how do you know what they're doing? You obviously don't listen to the show and haven't listened since these discussions began about the change in shift. You love to talk radio but don't listen to it? You're like people who talk about some upcoming controvesial movie but never actually see the movie. Maybe if certain posters confined their comments and opinions to stations they actually listen to we'd have some legitimate discussion.

See my post above. It doesn't take Einstein to figure out that it isn't a good sign when they change your shift to a less desirable one. It wouldn't even matter if I never listened to Yorke in my life. In radio switching your talent from Afternoon Drive to middays is a virtual kick to the groin.

 

[jimmyone]

Skynet, when you sign a contract with a station, it's usually for a stated shift and a stated amount of money. But also in the fine print, the station usually protects itself by saying, (example) 2-6pm or any other time period the station deems beneficial to the station. I've had that in several of my contracts. Only once was it used.

 

[Skynet74]

Skynet, when you sign a contract with a station, it's usually for a stated shift and a stated amount of money. But also in the fine print, the station usually protects itself by saying, (example) 2-6pm or any other time period the station deems beneficial to the station. I've had that in several of my contracts. Only once was it used.

The one time it was used in your case, did they pull a switcheroo like in Dan's case. One where you got stuck with a worse time slot? What kind of reaction did you have to it?

 

[Kenny Atkinson]

Skynet, when you sign a contract with a station, it's usually for a stated shift and a stated amount of money. But also in the fine print, the station usually protects itself by saying, (example) 2-6pm or any other time period the station deems beneficial to the station. I've had that in several of my contracts. Only once was it used.

Reading this statement it seems they can Dan do 3am- 6 am if they wanted and use the "Deems to be beneficial to the station.NOT Saying they would but it seems like a loophole if they wanted to bust his chops.

 

[Skynet74]

Reading this statement it seems they can Dan do 3am- 6 am if they wanted and use the "Deems to be beneficial to the station.NOT Saying they would but it seems like a loophole if they wanted to bust his chops.

I'm sure all kinds of quirky technical terms are written into radio contracts. Of course it will always be to benefit the radio station more than the talent. If the talent doesn't like it, than they simply don't get the gig. So I'm sure that in 99.9 percent of cases the talent just signs it so they can have a job. Unless you are a top notch talent that is high in demand, you probably aren't going to turn down many contratcs. Yeah... I am going to guess that there are lots of little loopholes that a station can use to their benefit. I just have a bad feeling about this situation with Dan. But then again... I had a bad feeling with the Depetro ratings situation too. Look at what happpened, NOTHING! At the end of the day I am just a big goofball with a loudmouth opinion on lots of things. It doesn't mean that I am always right.

 

[jimmyone]

Skynet, when you sign a contract with a station, it's usually for a stated shift and a stated amount of money. But also in the fine print, the station usually protects itself by saying, (example) 2-6pm or any other time period the station deems beneficial to the station. I've had that in several of my contracts. Only once was it used.

The one time it was used in your case, did they pull a switcheroo like in Dan's case. One where you got stuck with a worse time slot? What kind of reaction did you have to it?

Actually they did! Went from Morning Drive, to Mid-Days for the final year of a contract. No cut in pay. Got morning drive salary to do 10 am-2pm. (which bored the hell out of me, because it was lots of music and liner cards) However, when the contract expired, the new deal for middays was for 40% less money. So basically they wanted me to quit. They wouldn't fire me because that would end the non compete clause in the contract. So if I quit, I would have to leave the market. As another person stated, Yes, they can put you anywhere. If you had a prime time shift and they put you on overnights, you know you're gone when the contract runs out. Usually no matter what ..the contract will always favor the station. You just hope you get the basic's...shift..salary..severance in it. If you want to fight a problem, they have all the lawyers on retainer, you have the expense of a lawyer, and usually if you fight a station, NO other station will take you on because you get labeled a "rebel" or a "problem".
Also, it takes a while before you get your day in court...usually long after unemployment runs out.

 

[VelvetR]

I vaguely remember Rhode Island courts ruled no-compete contracts invalid some years ago. Anyone "trapped" in a job because of one would do well to consult a decent labor lawyer (not an "all purpose" lawyer) to dig up the history on that. It was in a radio-related case but I can't remember who it involved. In any case, the "talent" came out of it smelling like a rose.

 

[Skynet74]

I vaguely remember Rhode Island courts ruled no-compete contracts invalid some years ago. Anyone "trapped" in a job because of one would do well to consult a decent labor lawyer (not an "all purpose" lawyer) to dig up the history on that. It was in a radio-related case but I can't remember who it involved. In any case, the "talent" came out of it smelling like a rose.

Non-compete clauses suck. Even that piece of crap radio station I worked at in Fall River made me sign one. FUN 107 later hired me to do a weekend shift. My co-worker at the piece of crap station then said to me... "so... now what are you going to do?" I said... Do about what? She said "you signed a non-compete clause. So you can't work at both stations." I said what? You really think this rat hole is going to care if I have a little weekend gig on the side? Somehow she convinced me that they would care. So I chose to stay at the rat hole that gave me the most hours. I didn't want to give up a full time radio job for just a weekend thing. Plus I already had more freedom to do what I wanted than if I went to work at FUN 107. You know me. I can't keep my mouth shut. That kind of clashes with a job where they force you to become a human jukebox. I need to be allowed to have some kind of personality on the air. So I made the decision that I thought was best for me.

 

[VelvetR]

Non-compete clauses suck. Even that piece of crap radio station I worked at in Fall River made me sign one. FUN 107 later hired me to do a weekend shift. My co-worker at the piece of crap station then said to me... "so... now what are you going to do?" I said... Do about what? She said "you signed a non-compete clause. So you can't work at both stations."

1. Fall River is in Massachusetts, not Rhode Island. I have no idea were Massachusetts courts stand on non-compete.

2. Now we all know why God created "air names" and voice processors.

 

[Kenny Atkinson]

I vaguely remember Rhode Island courts ruled no-compete contracts invalid some years ago. Anyone "trapped" in a job because of one would do well to consult a decent labor lawyer (not an "all purpose" lawyer) to dig up the history on that. It was in a radio-related case but I can't remember who it involved. In any case, the "talent" came out of it smelling like a rose.

I believe your right on this.Carolyn Fox being fired by Ron St. Piere and then jumping to WWRX.Remember her and Rudy doing the TV spot with Duct Tape on Carolyns mouth because she could not talk on another station because of a Non Compete clause.That was a funny spot. She later won in court and Ron ended up with Egg on his face.

 

[tony r]

Two days into the change, I noticed Dan had some different and intelligent callers.