David E.

[omega]

Let me just ask do you have access to numbers in all markets? I was wondering how Raul Brindis does in Other markets lets say Odessa/Midland ,Amarillo, San Antonio or even Ft myers FL how does he play out aggainst other local spanish Morning shows!

 

[Bob E. Nelson]

Let me just ask do you have access to numbers in all markets? I was wondering how Raul Brindis does in Other markets lets say Odessa/Midland ,Amarillo, San Antonio or even Ft myers FL how does he play out aggainst other local spanish Morning shows!

Spanish is a language, not a format. That substring should be re-phrased as follows:

``...how does he play out against other local Spanish-language morning shows?''

 

[omega]

agreed! spanish is not a format

 

[VERITAS DE VOCE]

Although Tejano or Hispanic is a format. Either way, and dare I say it, DE is your bet. Hopefully, his name in lights will get his attention.

 

[omega]

I wonder this becuase i respect Raul Brindis and the work he does here in Houston but i see that in other markets he gets crushed and maybe that why Univision treats him like a stepchild and doesnt push him into markets like they do Piolin! I was hoping David E would have the insight about what markets Brindis controls and does well in like the ones i already mentioned!

 

[Bob E. Nelson]

Although Tejano or Hispanic is a format. Either way, and dare I say it, DE is your bet. Hopefully, his name in lights will get his attention.

Going into pedantic mode (and anyone familiar with the GNU compiler collection will grok that ``pedantic'' is not a pejorative at all), I question whether ``Hispanic'' would be classified as format.

An equivalent might be calling ``Midwestern'' a format. That encompasses a location and possibly a culture but I doubt that ``Midwestern'' would characterize a format since everything from farm-oriented KRVN in Lexington, NE to AOR KGGO/Des Moines, IA could be embraced by that term.

And while I'll engaged in pedantic mode, a few other minor nits:

1). Commercials that call Central Expressway ``I-75''. The interstate designated by that number is far, far from here. It's ``US 75'', a federal highway.

2). Spots (and I hear them all too frequently on WBAP) that verbally express a URL as something like ``www.wbap.com'' BACKSLASH ``mdavis''. The virgule in the URL is a SLASH (``/'') and not a BACKSLASH (``\""). We Unix dweebs and C programmers are all too acutely aware of such little things.

3). The LA and Chicago regionalism of placing an article before the name of freeway in traffic reports. For instance, ``...major backup on THE five'' or ``...45 minute delay on THE Stevenson''. Kudos to Mike Shannon and the others hereabouts, the way it's done in D/FW is more natural and economical, a la ``...construction on LBJ tonight'..

...and so ends pedantic mode (yes, it's always fun at parties). The weekend is coming and I can now get a life!

 

[rbrucecarter5]

Although Tejano or Hispanic is a format. Either way, and dare I say it, DE is your bet. Hopefully, his name in lights will get his attention.

An equivalent might be calling ``Midwestern'' a format. That encompasses a location and possibly a culture but I doubt that ``Midwestern'' would characterize a format since everything from farm-oriented KRVN in Lexington, NE to AOR KGGO/Des Moines, IA could be embraced by that term.

And while I'll engaged in pedantic mode, a few other minor nits:

1). Commercials that call Central Expressway ``I-75''. The interstate designated by that number is far, far from here. It's ``US 75'', a federal highway.

2). Spots (and I hear them all too frequently on WBAP) that verbally express a URL as something like ``www.wbap.com'' BACKSLASH ``mdavis''. The virgule in the URL is a SLASH (``/'') and not a BACKSLASH (``\""). We Unix dweebs and C programmers are all too acutely aware of such little things.

3). The LA and Chicago regionalism of placing an article before the name of freeway in traffic reports. For instance, ``...major backup on THE five'' or ``...45 minute delay on THE Stevenson''. Kudos to Mike Shannon and the others hereabouts, the way it's done in D/FW is more natural and economical, a la ``...construction on LBJ tonight'..

...and so ends pedantic mode (yes, it's always fun at parties). The weekend is coming and I can now get a life!

You know what? I don't care. Spanish is a foreign language, and whether it is Tejano, Hispanic, Spanish, or whatever - its a friggin' foreign language and I don't listen. I'm weary of political correctness - it gets tedious trying to find ways not to offend people. After a long while - its just obvious you cannot go through life without offending someone, so just don't go out of your way to do it, and hope that anybody you inadvertantly offend has enough of a life to know it wasn't intentional and they don't get all huffy about it.

So - go ahead and call all non-Spanish formats "anglo" if you want and I got a life, so I won't be offended at all.

As for US 75 - it is almost inevitable that it will eventually be designated Interstate 45 and continued to Kansas City - the time saving for trucking is too good to pass up. And if the Disney rumors are true, they will at least need it all the way to Sherman - if not all the way to I-40 to accomodate all the tourist traffic.

Unix - ICK - any language that uses the ominous sounding name "deamons" is too spooky for me. Too close to "demons". But I usually don't get into the Unix vs. Windows religious discussions. Your point about "C" is well taken.

As for regionalism - how many times do I hear that bit of freeway between US75 and I-35 referred to as Woodall Rogers - I doubt anybody knows the road number. Or the THE Tom Landry Highway. Or THE George Bush freeway.

My pet peeve is terms like "left center lane" on the traffic reports. Why don't we do something intelligent like number the lanes from the left like Houston traffic does: "stalled car in lane 3" or "lanes 1 and 2 blocked by construction". Less time, less confusing.

 

[Talktalk]

whatever you do, DON'T mention the word revenue around here Bruce...you think calling Spanish a format go a ton of attention, you should see what the A/V club here thinks about capitalist ventures.

 

[gbsncmtr]

All right, carter5 . . . I'll ask the question. What rumors concerning Disney and Sherman are you talking about?

 

[adguy]

I wonder this becuase i respect Raul Brindis and the work he does here in Houston but i see that in other markets he gets crushed and maybe that why Univision treats him like a stepchild and doesnt push him into markets like they do Piolin! I was hoping David E would have the insight about what markets Brindis controls and does well in like the ones i already mentioned!

I'd be curious to know how Raul Brendis is doing in other markets outside of Houston. He's one of the hardest working radio people I have ever met. He did some work for me several years ago for a client of mine in Houston. The guy is great, but back then tremendously overworked. Univision has him do his show, plus PD duties all day after 4 hours on the air in God knows how many markets. He's a horse!

 

[klifhanger]

Rbruce carter I agree with with your first paragrpah and Icertainly wouldnt go to the title of this thread for information. Its too homoginzed and spun to show favortism. As an old KVIL Jingle once played "it's a shame what's happened to radio"

 

[davideduardo]

Let me just ask do you have access to numbers in all markets? I was wondering how Raul Brindis does in Other markets lets say Odessa/Midland ,Amarillo, San Antonio or even Ft myers FL how does he play out aggainst other local spanish Morning shows!

I have access to the Univsion markets; the show is #1 Spanish. He is also #1... double digit #1... in the RGV on KGBT FM. In fact, in that market, he is #1 total market, and the next closest Spanish morning show has less than half his shares.

 

[davideduardo]

Although Tejano or Hispanic is a format. Either way, and dare I say it, DE is your bet. Hopefully, his name in lights will get his attention.

Hispanic is not a format, it is a culture, so there are Hispanic targeted formats (in either English or Spanish) but no "Hispanic" format. Tejano is a kind of music that shares it's name with a true lifestyle group, so it can be used either way.

 

[txchipk]

As for US 75 - it is almost inevitable that it will eventually be designated Interstate 45 and continued to Kansas City - the time saving for trucking is too good to pass up. And if the Disney rumors are true, they will at least need it all the way to Sherman - if not all the way to I-40 to accomodate all the tourist traffic.

Even if planned, it would take decades. The US75 freeway north of Allen is not up to federal Interstate standards (narrow bridges, etc.). So, no I-45 (or any other designation) can be attached it.

As for regionalism - how many times do I hear that bit of freeway between US75 and I-35 referred to as Woodall Rogers - I doubt anybody knows the road number. Or the THE Tom Landry Highway. Or THE George Bush freeway.

Woodall Rogers is used since most people don't know it is Texas Spur 366 as there is only a couple of reassurance shields (and there used to not even be that).

Similarly, most motorists have no idea that segment of freeway connecting I-45 and US-75 between I-30 and Woodall Rogers is really I-345. I-45 terminates at I-30. I-345 is the short connector from I-30 to Woodall Rogers. It is a "hidden interstate" since it is totally unsigned on the road.

My pet peeve is terms like "left center lane" on the traffic reports. Why don't we do something intelligent like number the lanes from the left like Houston traffic does: "stalled car in lane 3" or "lanes 1 and 2 blocked by construction". Less time, less confusing.

At least we didn't pick up Houston stuff like "accident on West Loop South northbound" to refer to the northbound lanes of I-610 on the southwest side of Houston... I-820 in Fort Worth is only the "West Loop" and not broken into "West Loop South" and "West Loop North" segments.

Actually, I think the DC traffic reporters adopted a better scheme for some traffic reports. Traffic flowing in and out is given as inbound and outbound...more logical to the average person. Instead of saying a wreck occurred on "westbound I-30 east of downtown Dallas," they would say something like a wreck occurred on "inbound I-30 east of downtown." To avoid the jumble of directions for I-820 (or I-610 "West Loop North southbound"-isms in Houston), no direction is given on the loop I-495 there...just "outer beltway" (the lanes going around counter clockwise) or "inner beltway" (the lanes going clockwise around the city).

 

[davideduardo]

You know what? I don't care. Spanish is a foreign language,

Not really. The first European language in Texas was Spanish.

and whether it is Tejano, Hispanic,

Tejano is a cultural group, not a language. Same with Hispanic. Neither is a language.

Spanish, or whatever - its a friggin' foreign language and I don't listen.

But in the Dallas metro, 30% of all 18-34 listening is to a Spanish language station. It's hard to say something is "foreign" when a third of all listeners employ it.

So - go ahead and call all non-Spanish formats "anglo" if you want and I got a life, so I won't be offended at all.

If you want to call formats "Hispanic" you have to include stations like KHKS that have a huge Hispanic listenership, because Hispanics can speak Spanish, English, be bilingual or speak Farsi... it's a culture, or ethnicity, not a langauge. Stations in English are "English Language" and stations in Spanish are "Spanish Language." On the other hand, "Spanish" stations are in Spain.

 

[omega]

David explain how brindis is so strong in houston but in dallas he didn't survive and in san antonio he gets eaten alive not to mention in west texas were he actualy brought the numbers down and in florida the station he's on has a .5 12+

 

[davideduardo]

David explain how brindis is so strong in houston but in dallas he didn't survive and in san antonio he gets eaten alive not to mention in west texas were he actualy brought the numbers down and in florida the station he's on has a .5 12+

In June, Raúl had a 10 share 18-34 in San Antonio... nearly as high as in Houston, despite the fact that the Hispanic audience for this kind of show is smaller there. The show is #4 overall, and #1 in Spanish.

Florida has very few Mexicans, and they are less likely to fill in a diary than in Texas.

I have no idea what west TX station you are referring to. In McAlllen he has the #1 morning show in 12+, 18-34 and 25-54.

In Dallas, there was a realignment of stations (Univision wanted only one big signal with regional) but Raúl was doing nicely...

 

[klifhanger]

Rbruce carter..french was ()fleutantly in far east TEJAS)..La salle...cavaza de vaca spoke portugese more than he did spanish according to many historians at UT,Tech,and some ivy leagers ,but hey facts are ignored and spinning is in.

 

[davideduardo]

Rbruce carter..french was ()fleutantly in far east TEJAS

I think the word is "flatuently."

 

[klifhanger]

Bottom line..Portugese,french then spanish was first spoken in Texas, but hell what do historians,scholars with DOCTORATES and Honors programs know? Ignoring history and facts are out ( that would ruin sales and self bloated promotion)and spinning OPINIONs leaving out pertinent facts is the mainstay of a CONsultant. The other bottom line radio has been lessened because of it.