David Letterman

[Prais]

KIFR, your examples are all FICTION. Nobody is REALLY unfaithful there (except in the writers head). The world is full of big talk and bs. Poor examples in this carse.

Mr Skynet said;I love it when somebody throws out an accusation against other people ("amoral"), then tries to soften it with a "no offense meant...just sayin' " Excuse me, but I don't consider myself amoral, nor is Letterman necessarily an amoral person because he committed what is arguably an immoral act.

Why would you say he deserves to be "steamrolled" by a "shyster" hired by his wife? Maybe she loves him, and they have an otherwise excellent relationship, and they decide to stay together and work on it despite his failings. They do have a child. But that would no doubt make you angry because it would upset your sense of moral outrage and need for revenge.

Mr net, with all due respect, You must not have much life experience or be a real diehard Dave fan....

I love your "qualification" of Dave as "not necessarily" amoral. HA! That's the REAL problem with your thinking (and of the thinking of world today) there are no absolutes for you. I have a list of 10 written about 4 thousand years ago.

1.Just because YOU think you are not "amoral" is not the issue. We will all yield to "a higher authority" as the Hebrew National kosher radio ads say.

2. If she stiill loves Dave after this - SHE is as STUPID (no, more stupid) than he. He has PROVEN (to a million viewers) that HE is untrustworthy. If she "forgives" how sincere is that? its only to still be able to burn HIS money.

Moral outrage? Yes sir. Just because you are in the mud with him, doesn't mean I have to be.

"No offense meant" is a true statement for the benefit of the administrator of this place. I really don't care WHAT your opinion is - I was stating MINE. It's MY opinion which often conflicts with theirs- but I really don't care.

I'm the one who will have to ultimately answer for my views; not the administrator, not you, either.

 

[Prais]

OOOPS. Apologies (since you guys are all so forgiving of Dave, mine is just a minor offense - not screwing anyone- so I expect your indulgence).

The note to Skynet is actually meant for LKELLER.

 

[imhomerjay]

2. If she stiill loves Dave after this - SHE is as STUPID (no, more stupid) than he. He has PROVEN (to a million viewers) that HE is untrustworthy. If she "forgives" how sincere is that? its only to still be able to burn HIS money.

Or she's following that whole "forgiveness" thing whats-his-name preached about 2000 years ago.

 

[Prais]

I'mHomerJ said;
"the forgiveness thing....."

Well, since YOU brought it up, here is what is recorded as Jesus (That's the whats his name you mean, correct?-or did you mean Buddah?) words;

Mark 32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.

This is widely known to mean that Jesus shows that when one mate defrauds the other by not revealing his or her involvement in fornication prior to marriage, (according to Jesus) this is a valid reason for divorce—

And regarding the oath they took at marriage;
33"Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not break your oath, but keep the oaths you have made to the Lord.'

Forgiveness? Paul in I Cor. 5:9 tells believers not to keep company with fornicators.

Thanks.

You just never know WHO you'll meet here.

 

[firepoint525]

Lastly - based on what we know now, Letterman did not "violate" a woman - he had a consensual relationship with one or more adult women. Sex with a co-worker is clearly wrong under some circumstances, but it is not illegal. I work in a large company, and its not unusual for two co-workers to meet each other on the job, then discover an attraction and have a consensual relationship...sometimes even fall in love and get married. Sometimes its coworkers in the same job category (equals, in other words) but other times its between a boss and a subordinate employee. Is it wrong? Sometimes, but certainly not always.

You might want to tell all that to NOW. They are accusing Letterman of creating a "hostile" work environment for his employees. Or something like that.

 

[LKellerIII]

OOOPS. Apologies (since you guys are all so forgiving of Dave, mine is just a minor offense - not screwing anyone- so I expect your indulgence).

The note to Skynet is actually meant for LKELLER.

Prais, you can criticize me all you want, but don't pick on my friend KIFR!

A final comment - I didn't say that Letterman's behavior in the case was "not necessarily amoral" - I believe it was. Immoral, if you will. But I don't think it necessarily makes him a bad person. Maybe he's horrible person...I don't know the man, except as a TV personality.

Many of us (except you, apparently) have done things we are not proud of. When we do, we try to recommit ourselves to our sense of moral values and become better people - whether through spirituality (religion), or by other means.

I'm done with this subject - we obviously must agree to disagree. I hope you're less judgmental and more forgiving with your friends and loved ones when they fail to live up to your moral code.

 

[imhomerjay]

Um, dude, offering a valid reason for a divorce doesn't mean it's a requirement that you get one, but you know that, and you know your citations are irrelevant and not applicable. Having an option doesn't mean one takes it.

So, just curious, was Ronnie Reagan an immoral man? I mean, he did divorce his first wife and all.

 

[cspotrun]

OOOPS. Apologies (since you guys are all so forgiving of Dave, mine is just a minor offense - not screwing anyone- so I expect your indulgence).

A final comment - I didn't say that Letterman's behavior in the case was "not necessarily amoral" - I believe it was. Immoral, if you will. But I don't think it necessarily makes him a bad person. Maybe he's horrible person...I don't know the man, except as a TV personality.

Many of us (except you, apparently) have done things we are not proud of. When we do, we try to recommit ourselves to our sense of moral values and become better people - whether through spirituality (religion), or by other means.

what exactly is the difference between a horrible person and a bad person? none of us are in any position to judge anyone else, BUT we can see that something wrong has happened here by someone in the public eye, as long as we can recognize it and point to it as bad behavior and NOT look the other way, or make excuses for it our society will be on the correct path in terms of morality, and dave will have to deal with it with his spirit. by the way i don't think i heard him say he was sorry, that might be the 1st step to forgivness.

 

[dhett]

You might want to tell all that to NOW. They are accusing Letterman of creating a "hostile" work environment for his employees. Or something like that.

A "toxic environment". Well, it's nice to see NOW back to where they were in 1997, before they fell eerily silent when it was their favorite President who was creating said toxic environment in the workplace.

 

[firepoint525]

You might want to tell all that to NOW. They are accusing Letterman of creating a "hostile" work environment for his employees. Or something like that.

A "toxic environment". Well, it's nice to see NOW back to where they were in 1997, before they fell eerily silent when it was their favorite President who was creating said toxic environment in the workplace.

A toxic environment? That makes it seem like he is forcing his staff to work around dangerous chemicals and breathe harmful fumes!

 

[Prais]

As long as Davis is present, that's TRUE!

 

[dhett]

You might want to tell all that to NOW. They are accusing Letterman of creating a "hostile" work environment for his employees. Or something like that.

A "toxic environment". Well, it's nice to see NOW back to where they were in 1997, before they fell eerily silent when it was their favorite President who was creating said toxic environment in the workplace.

A toxic environment? That makes it seem like he is forcing his staff to work around dangerous chemicals and breathe harmful fumes!

Their words, not mine. But I guess it should have been fine, as long as the staff didn't inhale. (Broken Smiley)

 

[cspotrun]

You might want to tell all that to NOW. They are accusing Letterman of creating a "hostile" work environment for his employees. Or something like that.

A "toxic environment". Well, it's nice to see NOW back to where they were in 1997, before they fell eerily silent when it was their favorite President who was creating said toxic environment in the workplace.

A toxic environment? That makes it seem like he is forcing his staff to work around dangerous chemicals and breathe harmful fumes!

under my favorite President unemployment was under 4% for 7 yrs and 10 months... but about Dave....maybe he had bad gas or "bo" on top of everything else!

 

[quadraphonic]

Certain people are getting overwrought over this. Hello...there wasn't even infidelity here...he was a SINGLE MAN dating single women...

Surely that was written on all the cards he bought his now-wife and the other ladies, right?
Nah, he wasn't hiding nothing.

 

[quadraphonic]

Letterman is 62 now, and he is about as boring as Carson was in his 60s (back in the late '80s and early '90s). Carson was 67 when he finally retired, and Dave should consider retirement soon, too.

He's been phoning it in for years, hasn't he?