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Dean & Rog to K-Hits...
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Holstead said:
Unfortunately, the greater likelihood is that the whole station will find itself with syndicated dayparts. The Arrow's always been the redheaded stepchild at the family reunion within the local chain.
Not working for the CC cluster, I would not know that-and I have never heard that, but I'll take you at your word. Shame if it is true, as I have worked a few appearances w/ Suzi, Steve Fixx and I did a TV special together (at my request) and if you do not know Col.'s history in this market, you do not need to post on this board. They get out, they work hard with what they have, and they want to be the best. The fact that they did not have a "Bob and Tom" or another plug and play show ready after the departure od Dean and Rog (who I also like) tells me that they have something else up there sleeve. I hope so, and I hope it is Live -AND- Local.
Holstead said:
I couldn't agree more with Josh....BTW, what are you doing up at this time of the morning???
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I'm not saying a thing against anybody's work, I'm speculating about what's ahead for the industry and hopefully, for the rock listeners who have suffered a lot of indignities in the last couple of years at the handling of the KLOL meltdown. I'd like them to get back what they miss, because they were loyal to the core. Maybe you're right, Josh. Maybe the company will decide that, between the talent budget saved by D&R's departure, the Mays brothers' executive pay cuts, and the nearly 2000 recently-eliminated jobs, they've reached their mandated $400 million dollar reduction in operating expenses. Perhaps if that's the case, they'll take those savings and put them back into their stations' daily operating budgets for things like (paid) expanded staff roles. :-\ I agree, it would be great.
The main reason I am up is because the pre-recorded version of my Westwood One show is now clearing Saturday mornings in a few markets...So, I am up here talking to folks and answering the request line, getting a few winners, etc. Nice when you can do it all from the house!
Other reason is, since my medical transformation (and subsequent weight loss of 80+ pounds) I just get up earlier. Sometimes 4am. Kinda like it too. I get a hell of a lot more stuff done before 7am than most jocks get done all day.
Plus, the Lap-Band does not allow me to consume food and beverages like I have been known to consume for all those years, I just feel better and have more energy. Now, pardon me while I seamlessly segue into a live spot for Lap Band Solutions
<who did NOT pay for this ad, OR my surgery>
Other reason is, since my medical transformation (and subsequent weight loss of 80+ pounds) I just get up earlier. Sometimes 4am. Kinda like it too. I get a hell of a lot more stuff done before 7am than most jocks get done all day.
Plus, the Lap-Band does not allow me to consume food and beverages like I have been known to consume for all those years, I just feel better and have more energy. Now, pardon me while I seamlessly segue into a live spot for Lap Band Solutions
<who did NOT pay for this ad, OR my surgery>Rowdy & Stan,
Thanks so much. Your kind words have truly touched me. Believe me when I tell you that I REALLY needed to read them today! Thanks again.
Thanks so much. Your kind words have truly touched me. Believe me when I tell you that I REALLY needed to read them today! Thanks again.
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Holstead said:The main reason I am up is because the pre-recorded version of my Westwood One show is now clearing Saturday mornings in a few markets...So, I am up here talking to folks and answering the request line, getting a few winners, etc. Nice when you can do it all from the house!
Other reason is, since my medical transformation (and subsequent weight loss of 80+ pounds) I just get up earlier. Sometimes 4am. Kinda like it too. I get a hell of a lot more stuff done before 7am than most jocks get done all day.
Plus, the Lap-Band does not allow me to consume food and beverages like I have been known to consume for all those years, I just feel better and have more energy. Now, pardon me while I seamlessly segue into a live spot for Lap Band Solutions
Congratulations!
Holstead said:
That's a very good post and as a regular Arrow listener, I quite agree. The one thing I think the Arrow truly needs right now is a solid midday personality bridging the morning show to afternoon drive. I still think they need Jennifer Tyler back on middays, or put Maureen there. Suzi Hanks is much better utilized elsewhere.
Jay C said:
Oh Please no More Walton and Johnson. There fine right there in Mississippi and Lousiana.
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schmave said:
Speaking of voicetracked shifts, does that mean that when Scott moves to afternoon drive on KHITS, the shift will go live? I thought I recalled reading that Kevin had to vt it...I could have been mistaken, but I thought that's what I'd read.
aunti-terrestrial said:
When will cox and others learn? There ratings have plummented since Mark Cracin(sp?) arrived and all the Vt'ing.
Back to Dean and Rog! There was talk on this earlier about Cox putting the reins on Dean and Rog and not letting them do what they do best like the "Birthday Scam", "Dead chick", etc. I was talking to one of the top morning shows in Houston this past week and in the discussion they said that maybe Dean and Rog would do whatever Cox wants just to have a job. With cutbacks everywhere, it seems that morning shows are willing to bow to the man and do whatever it takes just to stay employed. If that is the case then it is a sad day in radio when the talent has to kiss up to the suits to satisfy them and not their audience. I hope that this is not true and Dean and Rog will continue to do what brought em to the dance. Radio is already in a sad state of affairs and if the talent starts taking it up the *** just to stay employed, then why bother to do what you love. Do we have no pride in what we do? You might as well get out of radio if your gutless enough to just take whatever job you can get for the sake of being employed. Thank God I worked in radio when it was fun and we took chances. In my day we changed radio for the better, today it seems that radio is boring and no new fresh ideas. Thank you, I'll get off my soap box now.
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But sadly enough we have all, at some time in our career, taken a gig with less than our desired requirements.
Whether it was for less money, under tighter controls or in some cases even working with someone we really hoped we would never have to work with. Just to have a job in the industry we want to be in.
I am out of radio & making more money with more freedom in what I do, but would love to be back in radio surrounded by talented people that really cared about what they were doing. Unfortunately my minimum requirements for compensation for my skills is still too high for current day radio management.
Whether it was for less money, under tighter controls or in some cases even working with someone we really hoped we would never have to work with. Just to have a job in the industry we want to be in.
I am out of radio & making more money with more freedom in what I do, but would love to be back in radio surrounded by talented people that really cared about what they were doing. Unfortunately my minimum requirements for compensation for my skills is still too high for current day radio management.
I have not listened to Dean & Rog in several years, but when I did they were hands down the best. In fact I haven't listened to FM radio in over 4 years since acquiring Satellite. This thread confirms what I have believed for several years now. Over-the-Air radio is a dying medium. It's got some years left, but with all the consolidation, VTing and corporate bean counting programming the damn thing, more and more of the audience will continue to head to Satellite, IPODS and soon, Internet Radio. The only savior to over-the-air is unfettered, uncensored and bold personalities. And that is vanishing at breakneck speed. You don't have to be an MBA to know that content is still king. I guess they're not teaching that class at the Business Schools these days.
The next thing: Congress reactivating the fairness doctrine, which will of course spell the quick end to AM radio with massive media property sell-offs and bankrupcies. That's another group of fine geniuses. Everday seems more and more like we are living on Planet Bizarro, not Earth.
The next thing: Congress reactivating the fairness doctrine, which will of course spell the quick end to AM radio with massive media property sell-offs and bankrupcies. That's another group of fine geniuses. Everday seems more and more like we are living on Planet Bizarro, not Earth.
schmave said:
And maybe revamp the playlist a bit... Sheesh. D&R were good harmless fun, but when that same damn Aerosmith song comes on, its bye bye... The sad thing is K-hits playlist is even thinner. Especially since they started playing so much of what the Arrow does anyways; sprinkle in a few moldy oldies and you're good to go!
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fmtooner said:
I'm certainly not trying to hurt your feelings, here. Objectively, KLOL was caught in a textbook "squeeze play." It was more than 25 years ago that I first read the term in an impassioned article in R &R; the writer was deeply concerned that, with the rise of niche' formats like alternative and classic rock, the heritage and active rock audience would be siphoned off. Such division would weaken the audience core, leading to the eventual demise of the active rock format and the bleak vision of heritage rock stations going dark all over the country. Of course, he was thinking in terms of market competition, not competition for audiences within the same chain. I've long forgotten the writer's name, but I often think he must feel pretty awful if he's still around to see how right he was.
The fact remains that nostalgia formats are cheaper to run. There's no need to convince the audience to give the new Arrowsmith song a chance; those listeners will still pay to go see Arrowsmith in concert the next time they come to the Pavilion, and the time after that, and probably the next time, too. The listeners know beyond a shade of a doubt that when they turn on the dial, they're going to hear Foreigner, Boston, Tom Petty, Lynyrd Skynyrd, et. al. The Research has been done and put to bed.
It absolutely makes sense to put more dollars/resources into the formats which serve as the outlets for music development and new product. Those dollars translate into better talent development, more live dayparts and more live weekends, more budget for giveaways and face it, cooler prizes. Three festivals per year translate into hundreds more ticket giveaways, developing new listeners in the younger demos. The resources spent create a self-sustaining return on investment. When there are limited resources to go around, it makes sense to put the dollars there.
I'm sorry if I conveyed that in a manner that put you on the defensive, Josh. I certainly didn't intend to.
concept4141 said:
I think we can all agree that even classic formats could benefit from the occasional tweak.
Jennifer was terrific in what she did, and also wears the bonus hat of years' worth of solid production. Like Mike says, she's worth a lot more money than is probably budgeted for those positions right now (to be perfectly crass). I love Suzi but haven't heard her in the middays. I agree that she's under-utilized and she was great fun with D&R. I'm bummed she didn't make the hop with them, actually, because I think she adds a great element. She's versatile enough to go back to hard news, if she wants, or shop around and find whatever it is that she wants to do. I hope she lands well in whatever endeavor she pursues, be it middays or mornings or war correspondence or ski-dooing all over the world!
adguy said:
Scary, isn't it?
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LMAO---make that Aerosmith, not Arrowsmith. It's been awhile since I've had to care about the difference.
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