Dear WJRR & WHOG jocks,

[Stormychuck]

Noticing that the "Round-mound-of-sound is a newbie here on radio-info.com we can all bare with his postings until he get's it all figured out.

I suppose there is nothing wrong with using the 70's TV show "WKRP" in Cincinnati keeping within the theme
of "Town to town up and down the dial" in one's bio, but I suppose it's all good.

Finale thought, 2/3rds of the poster's here on Radio-Info.com have, by far, more on-air radio broadcast experience the you yourself Mr. Round Mound could possibly even imagine and really don't need lecturing on the do's and don't's of what to say and what not to say while in the radio! Most of us have it pretty much figured out....

This is only my opinion and with that said Mr. Round care to share your credential's?

 

[Round Mound of Sound]

Noticing that the "Round-mound-of-sound is a newbie here on radio-info.com we can all bare with his postings until he get's it all figured out.

I suppose there is nothing wrong with using the 70's TV show "WKRP" in Cincinnati keeping within the theme
of "Town to town up and down the dial" in one's bio, but I suppose it's all good.

Finale thought, 2/3rds of the poster's here on Radio-Info.com have, by far, more on-air radio broadcast experience the you yourself Mr. Round Mound could possibly even imagine and really don't need lecturing on the do's and don't's of what to say and what not to say while in the radio! Most of us have it pretty much figured out....

This is only my opinion and with that said Mr. Round care to share your credential's?

Not a newbie, just a new nom de air.

Thank you for supposing. I notice you did it twice. You should also be proud of your extensive knowledge of late 70s radio-centric TV programming. I'm pretty sure everyone here "got" the reference without your help.

My employer is familiar with my credentials. That's all that matters. I will say it includes a couple dozen years in the industry, many of them programming stations & critiquing talent. It also includes a few books here and there with 20+ shares.

Seems like there ARE plenty of jocks locally who could use a nice air check session. Were that not the case, I never would have posted...and there wouldn't be other posters here agreeing.

So, please explain why it *IS* a good idea to use jargon on the air. I'd love to hear your reasoning since you have it pretty much figured out.*
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*Caution to PDs: avoid any jock who claims they no longer require critiques.[/size]

 

[billalm]

An air check session? HA HA HA HA.... sure thing. Those were the victims of budget cuts 10 years ago. Can't ya tell?

 

[vadar]

HAHAHAHAHA, I remember air check sessions. When I helped sign on WJRR in the 90's we had air checks sessions with OM John Frost. Learned lots from that guy. Super guy, except he always got in your face (physically, I mean). Kinda creeped me out. Steve Robertson was MD at the time, good guys, wonder where they reside these days.....

 

[rastro]

stormychuck -
Curious as to why you took such offense to the roundmound post? I found it to be pretty lighthearted, and actually something that people connected to. With regard to newbies posting, why is that a problem/concern to you, or even something worth pointing out to the group?

 

[scottsvb5]

Unless there is a actual show... No Listener Really Cares about the DJ... all they care about is what music that station plays and if they can hear that song they request. On-Air Personalitys are a joke. Most DJ's and their sidekicks try to come around being funny and all they really do is make the listener think "What a idiot this DJ is"... Just play the Music ! That's all we care about.

 

[RickSchmidt]

I think John Frost is still consulting a number of christian stations (like The Fish, The Promise, etc) at Good Ratings. He hired some great people over the years, including a 18 year old kid from KTK in Gainesville, to do nights on WJRR at launch...Mike ONeill, or as he began using his real name, Mike Sharkey "SHARK", now PD at 97X Tampa.

Steve Robertson is a A&R dude for Atlantic records. He signed a couple bands you may have heard of....Shinedown and Paramore

 

[radiobum]

Do listeners actually care about these 15 second or whatever sweepers that rock stations production directors are so fond of-promoting the tired overplayed music they play ?

 

[Round Mound of Sound]

An air check session? HA HA HA HA.... sure thing. Those were the victims of budget cuts 10 years ago. Can't ya tell?

Too true, billalm.

 

[Round Mound of Sound]

stormychuck -
Curious as to why you took such offense to the roundmound post? I found it to be pretty lighthearted, and actually something that people connected to. With regard to newbies posting, why is that a problem/concern to you, or even something worth pointing out to the group?

Thanks for taking it the way it was meant.

I don't mean to offend anyone (but I'm also okay with it if I do), but I *do* hope that the discussion here has rattled a few cages. Anyone on the air here or in any other market who thinks they're beyond a critique should be run out of radio. The moment you say to someone more experienced than yourself and say "That's okay, I've got this pretty much figured out," is the moment you should walk away from the industry. I've been doing this in parts of 4 different decades...I've devoted my entire adult life to it...and I still learn new things every day, and I still have a 'mentor' from back in the day with whom I stay in touch & send an aircheck to every now and again.

I figure Stormychuck works at one of the stations I named. Hell, he may be one of the jocks I've quoted. If that's the case, he needs professional help. Literally. If he's one of the jocks who motivated me to post in the first place, he needs a more experienced professional to take him under their wing to guide him. If he's the jock I heard a couple of Saturday nights ago use jargon three times in a single break, he should tell his PD that he can't do another shift until he has an intensive air check session...and possibly a colonic. Judging by his attitude, the colonic is a given. His response was a classic case of "kill the messenger." It's obvious from the responses from others that I'm not the only one who sees the problem.

 

[gmspectre]

Unless there is a actual show... No Listener Really Cares about the DJ... all they care about is what music that station plays and if they can hear that song they request. On-Air Personalitys are a joke. Most DJ's and their sidekicks try to come around being funny and all they really do is make the listener think "What a idiot this DJ is"... Just play the Music ! That's all we care about.

I've thought this ever since I started listening to radio.

As a listener I don't really get up all in arms about someone using so-called insider terms. It not really hard to figure out what they are saying.

on our local tv station every day at 5:58 pm one of the anchors says 'we'll be back with more news at 6:00". does she not know that's two minutes away ?!

This made me laugh the most. They mean the same damn thing. No one is going to get confused or pissed off.

 

[radiobum]

RE:AIRCHECKS. i remember a consultant who told me to up my energy level by 10 percent. made perfect sense.

 

[Round Mound of Sound]

Unless there is a actual show... No Listener Really Cares about the DJ... all they care about is what music that station plays and if they can hear that song they request. On-Air Personalitys are a joke. Most DJ's and their sidekicks try to come around being funny and all they really do is make the listener think "What a idiot this DJ is"... Just play the Music ! That's all we care about.

A good jock can make a world of difference. Stations with people on the air almost always kick the stuffing out of automated jukebox stations w/out jocks. There's a lot to be said for the content between the songs. Don't make the mistake of confusing your tastes/opinions with that of the broader marketplace (another lesson that use to be taught to jocks early on in their radio careers).

The problem is that a metric f*** ton of talented people...possibly even the majority of truly talented people...have left radio, whether of their own choosing or not. The smaller market stations (and way too many medium & large market stations, too) where the bigs once recruited their new talent aren't producing that talent these days, because they've all gone jukebox/satellite/voice tracked to save money.

 

[Round Mound of Sound]

Unless there is a actual show... No Listener Really Cares about the DJ... all they care about is what music that station plays and if they can hear that song they request. On-Air Personalitys are a joke. Most DJ's and their sidekicks try to come around being funny and all they really do is make the listener think "What a idiot this DJ is"... Just play the Music ! That's all we care about.

I've thought this ever since I started listening to radio.

As a listener I don't really get up all in arms about someone using so-called insider terms. It not really hard to figure out what they are saying.

- A listener shouldn't have to figure out what a jock's saying. Back in September you bitch that radio's running off its listeners, now you say it's okay for jocks to say stuff that *most* listeners just won't understand? You might be able to decipher it on the fly but most casual listeners won't. A good break should be like a casual conversation with your listener, and you wouldn't use a bunch of jargon in a one-on-one, face-to-face chat with them, so you shouldn't do it on the air.

on our local tv station every day at 5:58 pm one of the anchors says 'we'll be back with more news at 6:00". does she not know that's two minutes away ?!

This made me laugh the most. They mean the same damn thing. No one is going to get confused or pissed off.

- I don't think he's implying that anyone's going to be confused or angry...but it still sounds kind of dumb, especially if viewers take note of the time when it's said. Most people don't set their clocks according to the U.S. Naval Observatory (which radio & TV stations/networks do), so their clocks could very well be a minute or two off, or more. If I've just glanced at my watch and it says "6:00," and the anchor says, "We'll be back at 6:00," I'm left thinking that the anchor isn't too bright, isn't paying attention or doesn't have a lot of common sense.

 

[gmspectre]

- A listener shouldn't have to figure out what a jock's saying. Back in September you bitch that radio's running off its listeners, now you say it's okay for jocks to say stuff that *most* listeners just won't understand? You might be able to decipher it on the fly but most casual listeners won't. A good break should be like a casual conversation with your listener, and you wouldn't use a bunch of jargon in a one-on-one, face-to-face chat with them, so you shouldn't do it on the air.

If a radio dj uses a term I don't understand, then I forget about for the second it takes to wonder about the term and listen for the music that brought me to the station in the first place.

If a station that is the only one who plays a specific style of music takes the music off the air with no warning then that's when I stop listening to the station.