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Debi Diaz out at KLUV

OMG, Radio"Truth", I thought we were long done with you. I'm not going to fight the same fight with you again, that only the jocks from your youth are the ones we all should cherish, and anyone who's come since is a blithering wannabe idiot. Radio's not played by the same rules these days. And I never said Debi had the chops of any of the ones you listed...but in TODAY'S radio, working within the CONFINES of it, I can't think of too many currently on the air who do a better job with it than Debi did. Spin this all you want, but I can't make my statements any clearer. You, of course, are not required to share my opinion.

Today's radio requires very little of anything from a dj. The move from this to total automation will not make much of a difference. If one of the great djs such as a Dan Ingram was replaced by the same automation, it would have made a great difference in ratings and revenue for the station. Either way, it doesn't really matter.
Radio is dieing a slow fragmentation death and nothing will save it. Firing liner card readers is just step one. I can't wait to see what comes next.
 
I knew something was wrong yesterday when I went on the site and looked at the shows page and hers was gone. I'm going to miss her.
 
MikeShannon914 said:
OMG, Radio"Truth", I thought we were long done with you. I'm not going to fight the same fight with you again, that only the jocks from your youth are the ones we all should cherish, and anyone who's come since is a blithering wannabe idiot. Radio's not played by the same rules these days. And I never said Debi had the chops of any of the ones you listed...but in TODAY'S radio, working within the CONFINES of it, I can't think of too many currently on the air who do a better job with it than Debi did. Spin this all you want, but I can't make my statements any clearer. You, of course, are not required to share my opinion.

While he's certainly entitled to his opinion, I think it's a pretty narrow definition of personality, too. What a lot of people forget about the boss jock era is that, for every Dick Biondi, Larry Lujack, Dan Ingram or any other successful one, there were at least 10 more who just weren't any good at it. If you can't do the boss jock concept correctly, the response from the listener is always, "God, they suck!", or some variant.

To me, anyone you hear on the radio has personality if the listener feels they know the person they're hearing and looks forward to spending a little time with them each time they turn the radio on. If the listener tunes you out, literally or figuratively, when they hear you, you're not a personality.
 
While he's certainly entitled to his opinion, I think it's a pretty narrow definition of personality, too. What a lot of people forget about the boss jock era is that, for every Dick Biondi, Larry Lujack, Dan Ingram or any other successful one, there were at least 10 more who just weren't any good at it. If you can't do the boss jock concept correctly, the response from the listener is always, "God, they suck!", or some variant.

The above statement is correct. 1960s personality top forty radio required more talent and was more difficult to do well than any other format in the history of music radio. This is why there were very few djs who did it well. This is also one of the things that killed it. There was a lack of enough talent to go around. It was easier and cheaper for the stations to have evolved into hiring the Debi Diaz type liner card reader. The liner card readers like her are interchangeable parts. Fire one and hire another and nobody knows and nobody cares. The step down from the liner card reader to voicetracking is almost unnoticeable. On the other hand, when one of those few great 60s personality djs left a station or a market, it meant a big drop in ratings and billings for the station that they left. Liner card readers replacing big personalities made stations cheaper to run. Voicetracking replacing liner card readers will make stations even cheaper to run. The only difference is that the drop off in quality will be minimal.
 
RADIO TRUTH said:
OMG, Radio"Truth", I thought we were long done with you. I'm not going to fight the same fight with you again, that only the jocks from your youth are the ones we all should cherish, and anyone who's come since is a blithering wannabe idiot. Radio's not played by the same rules these days. And I never said Debi had the chops of any of the ones you listed...but in TODAY'S radio, working within the CONFINES of it, I can't think of too many currently on the air who do a better job with it than Debi did. Spin this all you want, but I can't make my statements any clearer. You, of course, are not required to share my opinion.

Today's radio requires very little of anything from a dj. The move from this to total automation will not make much of a difference. If one of the great djs such as a Dan Ingram was replaced by the same automation, it would have made a great difference in ratings and revenue for the station. Either way, it doesn't really matter.
Radio is dieing a slow fragmentation death and nothing will save it. Firing liner card readers is just step one. I can't wait to see what comes next.

Radio Truth...you are one negative miserable twit. There are plenty high profile PERSONALITY jocks around and many of them if fired would bring a huge hailstorm from listeners not to mention mucho revenue lost.

I was around and did the Boss Jock thing at KHJ and even a short stint at WABC. Yes Dan Ingram was great. But there were many other Boss Jocks and WABC jocks (Personalities) who in my opinion were bad. Pukers that never did more than intro/outro songs. You know LINER CARD READERS. ;)
 
I feel sorry for anyone -- in any industry -- that gets laid off or fired, but I'm always amazed at what shows up on some of these posts on this board. There is all sorts of outrage that CBS is laying off people at KLUV middays, or several weeks ago in the evening. The outrage then was that that person was replaced by syndicated programming from 7-Mid. However, many of these folks were posting their hopes Citadel would dump the country format on KTYS and axe their local airstaff in hopes it would be replaced with their True Oldies feed earlier this year. On another thread, there is outrage the 102.5 Dallas translator is blocking reception of the ABC classic rock feed on Grayson County's KMAD-FM 102.5. There is, no outrage, that station is using syndicated fare rather than local talent.

Just so I understand the board rules, is a local DJ being let go something to be angry about only if (1) you are pals with them or (2) they were on a station you like, but no big deal if (1) you don't know them or (2) they are on a station you don't like? Syndicated programming used instead of local talent is bad (Tom Kent on KLUV), unless you like it (KMAD-FM)?
 
Im new at this but it's been the only place I could find out any info about Debi Diaz being let go by CBS. My wife and I were out of country over the Christmas and New Year's holidays. We heard about this when we got back this past week. I know it's old news but does anyone know where I can find an original story or more info. Thanks.
 
txchipk said:
I feel sorry for anyone -- in any industry -- that gets laid off or fired, but I'm always amazed at what shows up on some of these posts on this board. There is all sorts of outrage that CBS is laying off people at KLUV middays, or several weeks ago in the evening.

If you insert the words "loyal" and "long-time" in front of the word "people", you'd understand it better. Getting rid of such an employee for the pure sake of saving money, is an outrage. Now if their numbers were low, that's understandable. But the long term and loyal folks are usually the ones you want to keep. Now if such a jock has proven to be a problem, like Russ Martin for example, let 'em go.
 
scrtr84 said:
But the long term and loyal folks are usually the ones you want to keep.
But the long term folks are also the most likely to have big contracts. And if the ratings or revenue no longer justify that big salary....
 
little1 said:
scrtr84 said:
But the long term and loyal folks are usually the ones you want to keep.
But the long term folks are also the most likely to have big contracts. And if the ratings or revenue no longer justify that big salary....

I covered that with "low numbers" and "usually". Please reread my comment.
 
huntdriver said:
Im new at this but it's been the only place I could find out any info about Debi Diaz being let go by CBS. My wife and I were out of country over the Christmas and New Year's holidays. We heard about this when we got back this past week. I know it's old news but does anyone know where I can find an original story or more info. Thanks.

It still makes me sick to my stomach. She was such a nice lady and had great musical taste. Does anybody know where she landed?
 
txchipk said:
(1) you are pals with them or (2) they were on a station you like, but no big deal if (1) you don't know them or (2) they are on a station you don't like? Syndicated programming used instead of local talent is bad (Tom Kent on KLUV), unless you like it (KMAD-FM)?

You have a point - I fully confess to supporting friends. I do it with TV shows - I watch shows I normally wouldn't because a friend is on it:

- Gossip Girls for Taylor Momsen
- the Young and Restless for Erin Sanders (they canned her, I quit watching)
- My Own Worst Worst Enemy for Bella Thorne (cancelled)

If I have the quality of loyalty to friends, I think it is a good quality - not bad.
 
rbrucecarter5 said:
txchipk said:
(1) you are pals with them or (2) they were on a station you like, but no big deal if (1) you don't know them or (2) they are on a station you don't like? Syndicated programming used instead of local talent is bad (Tom Kent on KLUV), unless you like it (KMAD-FM)?

You have a point - I fully confess to supporting friends. I do it with TV shows - I watch shows I normally wouldn't because a friend is on it:

- Gossip Girls for Taylor Momsen
- the Young and Restless for Erin Sanders (they canned her, I quit watching)
- My Own Worst Worst Enemy for Bella Thorne (cancelled)

If I have the quality of loyalty to friends, I think it is a good quality - not bad.

Well said, Bruce.
 
Debbie will probably do as many have ,do voice work. I would not be surprised in mid summer or slightly before she appears on Platinum 97.
 
I am sick sick sick to read this! I listen to KLUV all day, every day at work. Since Debi is on during the majority of my workday, I missed her during Christmas, but thought she was on a much needed vacation. After the first of the year, she wasn't there and I checked the KLUV website and her page is missing! I've been searching to find out what happened and now I know.

She was more than just a liner reader. She was like a friend. Every morning at 9:00, I would listen on line as "my friend" and I listened to records. It sure made my day go much better. She was like a comforting security blanket. No matter how awful things were here at the office (and they are bad just like everywhere), my "friend" Debi would play a record and things wouldn't look so bleak. Jenny Q is a fine person, I'm sure, but it's not like having Debi. I would e-mail Debi about songs, or to make a request and she always answered back. I never met Debi. Never talked to her except via e-mail. But she was with me every day during the darkest times here at the office. They've taken more from me than just some anonymous DJ during the midday airing.

I will not be listening to KLUV during the day anymore.
 
teddysmom said:
I am sick sick sick to read this! I listen to KLUV all day, every day at work. Since Debi is on during the majority of my workday, I missed her during Christmas, but thought she was on a much needed vacation. After the first of the year, she wasn't there and I checked the KLUV website and her page is missing! I've been searching to find out what happened and now I know.

She was more than just a liner reader. She was like a friend. Every morning at 9:00, I would listen on line as "my friend" and I listened to records. It sure made my day go much better. She was like a comforting security blanket. No matter how awful things were here at the office (and they are bad just like everywhere), my "friend" Debi would play a record and things wouldn't look so bleak. Jenny Q is a fine person, I'm sure, but it's not like having Debi. I would e-mail Debi about songs, or to make a request and she always answered back. I never met Debi. Never talked to her except via e-mail. But she was with me every day during the darkest times here at the office. They've taken more from me than just some anonymous DJ during the midday airing.

I will not be listening to KLUV during the day anymore.

She might be on Platinum 96.7 pretty soon, you watch.
 
This is the kind of thing that PD Peter Z should read (although in CBS' infinite wisdom, probably won't make any difference, but still)...try emailing to these addresses: [email protected] and [email protected]. You should quit listening to KLUV altogether if you feel that strongly, or at least never buy from their sponsors (there's probably a list of them on their website.) Check out Platinum 96.7, KAAM 770, KJIM 1500, KSOC 94.5, KEOM 88.5, and/or KOOI 106.5 for some nice alternatives.

And thank you for a pure, unadulterated and untainted take on Debi's talents. She was wrongfully taken to task on here by a few. That BOND you talk about is the thing that's missing in today's radio. But it's only going to get worse.
 
Mike:

I respond to every listener email. But you have the address wrong. It's [email protected].

I don't know who "Dan Henry" is that you've listed, but he's not at CBS. We have a David Henry, the director of sales, but he would have nothing to do with this situation.

For what it's worth: We ALL miss Debi dearly.

PZ
 
what cracks me up is people like MikeShannon who have no idea of the details of the situation offering up their opinion like they know what's going on.

keep passing out the sage advice my friend.
 
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