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December NYC Ratings

Maybe iHeart will offer up The Woody Show to WNYL. It would make sense to have them in New York. Although a logistical nightmare, given that the show originates out of LA..

If they do it will be an admission of complete failure on the part of Mike Kaplan.

However Woody seems to have the logistics figured out, because he's on the iHeart station in Philly.
 
I kinda go back and forth about Marcos' suggestion vis-a-vis the WNYC HD 2 having an impact.
On one hand, 93.9 would be one heritage frequency to punch up -- traditionally ideal.
On the other cliche, I doubt that too many listeners to Classical would spend any hi-fi budget money on another (gasp; nose in the air) *radio* only to hear songs that are 200 years old and which they probably have in their collections anyway.
But my Classical 'tastes' go merely to Mozart, Debussy, Gynt and Burt Bach. So what would I know?

I also doubt that the 10-watt WQXR extension speaker across the Hudson from Poughkeepsie on 103.7 is garnering much. But they are 800+ feet up there.

The nice WQXR stream might be a key. I'm listening to it now, some 120 miles west-northwest of Carnegie Hall. But I can't find the stream on the ratings list.

Yet, since WNYC-FM's numbers also took a nice jump, might there be some gadgetry or confusion involved with the PPM signals ?
 
The nice WQXR stream might be a key. I'm listening to it now, some 120 miles west-northwest of Carnegie Hall. But I can't find the stream on the ratings list.
If a stream is a 100% simulcast with the broadcast signal, it is eligible for SLR (Single Line Reporting<).
Yet, since WNYC-FM's numbers also took a nice jump, might there be some gadgetry or confusion involved with the PPM signals ?
Perhaps their stream is also a true simulcast and consolidated with the FM.
 
I am disappointed that ratings for WFUV and WBGO are so low at 0.4. Both stations provide quality programming with no commercials.

WFUV will play 2 or 3 recent alternative tracks and then the next thing you know they'll segue right into some old folk rock with a harmonica. I'm sure they're trying to appeal to a younger audience with good jobs and plenty of disposable income to make donations, while at the same time trying not to alienate their longtime donors who are probably well north of 65 and want to hear the old Americana and folk music 'FUV used to play. It makes for a difficult mix and it's hard to listen for long.

Some of the jocks also sound like an SNL parody of public radio with their overly pensive, soft spoken style. And there's one guy who never has any content in his breaks whatsoever, he just tells you his name multiple times, lists the artists that are coming up and then over-enunciates the station name, W-F-yeeeewwwww-V. The one thing they all have in common is that none of them sound like they're having fun -- a total disconnect from the type of music they're playing.

Add to this a poor signal over much of the market, and blocks of syndicated and specialty programming that break up the regular format, the resulting rating is disappointing but not at all surprising.
 
If they do it will be an admission of complete failure on the part of Mike Kaplan.

However Woody seems to have the logistics figured out, because he's on the iHeart station in Philly.
iHM should have kept their original morning show. It was a nice change of pace from the normal morning shows. Music intensive morning shows I think are better.
 
I kinda go back and forth about Marcos' suggestion vis-a-vis the WNYC HD 2 having an impact.
On one hand, 93.9 would be one heritage frequency to punch up -- traditionally ideal.
On the other cliche, I doubt that too many listeners to Classical would spend any hi-fi budget money on another (gasp; nose in the air) *radio* only to hear songs that are 200 years old and which they probably have in their collections anyway.
But my Classical 'tastes' go merely to Mozart, Debussy, Gynt and Burt Bach. So what would I know?

I also doubt that the 10-watt WQXR extension speaker across the Hudson from Poughkeepsie on 103.7 is garnering much. But they are 800+ feet up there.

The nice WQXR stream might be a key. I'm listening to it now, some 120 miles west-northwest of Carnegie Hall. But I can't find the stream on the ratings list.

Yet, since WNYC-FM's numbers also took a nice jump, might there be some gadgetry or confusion involved with the PPM signals ?
It is great to have WQXR on WNYC HD2 (as 105.9 only puts out 610 watts) and is very weak in Eastern Nassau County, but since WNYC is also not full power, I have more difficulties holding onto HD than the other full power NYC HD stations. On the other hand, I have a directional Radio Shack FM antenna in my attic that provides excellent signal strength on 105.9 at home on all my stereo receivers.
 
It is great to have WQXR on WNYC HD2 (as 105.9 only puts out 610 watts) and is very weak in Eastern Nassau County, but since WNYC is also not full power, I have more difficulties holding onto HD than the other full power NYC HD stations. On the other hand, I have a directional Radio Shack FM antenna in my attic that provides excellent signal strength on 105.9 at home on all my stereo receivers.
Granted, WNYC, at 415 metres HAAT, is 5200 watts instead of 6000, but WNYC is a full-power station, with a 60 dBu of only about 1.4 km less than the 60 dBus of the best ESB signals. Probably WNYC is not running on maximum power at this time.
 
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It just seems that 93.9 HD2 drops out more for me than 103.5 HD3, 101.1 HD3 and 102.7 HD2 so I thought the lower analog power translated into lower digital power.
 
English dominant or bilingual Hispanics in the younger adult demographics have traditionally been strong users of Urban formats in NYC for decades. However, the evolution of Hispanic urban music, generically called "reggaetón", has become the preferred music for much of that group because it is more culturally linked to them.

Your question is similar to asking why the urban audience migrated to hip hop starting about 40 years ago... things change. In this case, a significant portion of the younger Hispanic population found its own music and migrated to it.
Agreed but the post was about the dramatic ratings decline over a 4 book period. While one could expect a miniscule decline book by book as an ethnic group migrated over to a new genre/format, the dramatic fast decline would not likely be solely for that reason.
 
I can see either 94.7 or 92.3 becoming WINS or CBS 880 sadly in 2022. I love Alt but their music mix isn't working. Do I wish NYC had variety in their music? Yeah. Sadly we don't get that.

94.7 plays hits from a golden age for CHR that no one else can or will play. Also, it just flipped three months ago.

Also, what the F are you talking about with NYC and music variety? You have rhythmic, urban, and Spanish contemporary to go with your ACs, CHRs, and rockers. That's on you if you're dissatisfied with New York radio.
 
94.7 plays hits from a golden age for CHR that no one else can or will play. Also, it just flipped three months ago.

Also, what the F are you talking about with NYC and music variety? You have rhythmic, urban, and Spanish contemporary to go with your ACs, CHRs, and rockers. That's on you if you're dissatisfied with New York radio.
What rockers are there? We have 1 CHR.
 
Agreed but the post was about the dramatic ratings decline over a 4 book period. While one could expect a miniscule decline book by book as an ethnic group migrated over to a new genre/format, the dramatic fast decline would not likely be solely for that reason.
Correct, but we have already discussed the fact that Urban stations can't play a significant percentage of the "hit" urban songs because they have lyric content that makes their broadcast on AM and FM illegal under FCC administrative law.

Add in the enormous surge in reggaetón in the last year or two and you have a "perfect storm" for Urban. You may have noted that the Christmas concerts by iHeart that were CHR/Churban based included artists like Bad Bunny, showing ho huge reggaeton has become.
 
94.7 plays hits from a golden age for CHR that no one else can or will play. Also, it just flipped three months ago.

Also, what the F are you talking about with NYC and music variety? You have rhythmic, urban, and Spanish contemporary to go with your ACs, CHRs, and rockers. That's on you if you're dissatisfied with New York radio.
Also 94.7's music is not CHR nor was it CHR it is Classic Hip Hop and R&B.
 
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