Dennis and Callahan strike again

[Neanderpaul]

Koreans stick out in Tokyo.

In fact, one time in a business meeting I had in Tokyo, after learning that I had been in Seoul prior to Tokyo, the Japanese client asked me how I found Korean people compared to Japanese people... I said they were wonderful, I had a very nice time there. He said, "but how did you find them.... physically.....?" I asked, "what do you mean" (I mean, I knew his little game but wasn't playing....) He said, "well, did you find them much bigger and ...." (no, not in THAT sense), in the sense that Koreans are not refined and Japanese are.

As far as I could tell, we all (black, white, brunette, blond) appear to be savage louts in their eyes...

I think his name was Callahanaka, or something like that... ;D

Well...actually I have a good friend who's Japanese. And he explained to me that there's actually an "order" of Asians. With the Japanese sitting atop the tree, and the Hmong and Filipino at the bottom.

Again...it's their culture. Who are we to question?

We're considered uncultured due to our relative youth as a country. Whereas they have thousands of years of "refined" history. Let's conveniently omit the barbarism and cannibalism in Japanese culture that existed as recently as WWII.

Reminds me of the story of lil' Butch's war watch...."a man he'd never met...an airman by the name of Wanaki..."

 

[Finn]

Again...it's their culture. Who are we to question?

well, I guess we all get to question, but I also think we have an obligation to understand how things ended up the way they did too.

 

[riverboatman]

Callahan's point has nothing to do with Big Papi....his point is Dicekay would blend into the streets of Tokyo.....Maybe to caucasions on the scene, but not to the Japanese locals.......Callahan's implication is that the Japanese all look alike, even to the Japanese.....there's no defense for that.......Please stop justifying his point with how different Ortiz looks compared to the locals......No one, not even me, is disputing that, but that has NOTHING to do with my criticism of Callahan's narrow thought. I understand the natural unwillingness to not want to give in, but sometimes you just gotta say "uncle." This is an easy one.

I often wonder why the ratings are so strong and consistent for D&C......Their slant is so predictable, especially when they take the TMZ approach.....They are bullies (which really make them cowards), but most unseemly is both of their defensive and thin-skinned nature that makes it impossible to have an open minded debate about anything, and for that, I would have no interest in drinking a beer and having a sports or political discussion with either of them......So back to my confusion over their popularity......I guess my disappointment with the morning drive show at WEEI puts me in the minority.....There's always a number of D&C defenders right here at radio-info.com any time there's a criticism......I must be missing something.....oh well, I stand by my argument......So come on D&C defenders, put me in my place, as I'm sure I won't have the last word on this one, just like any caller to D&C that has an opposing opinion, heavan forbid!!

 

[Neanderpaul]

Callahan's point has nothing to do with Big Papi....his point is Dicekay would blend into the streets of Tokyo.....Maybe to caucasions on the scene, but not to the Japanese locals.......

You're wrong. Individualism is not a Japanese trait. They blend in. They don't draw attention to themselves. They are interesting in that way. The Japanese do not give other Japanese a second look unless they have specific reason to. they tend to their own business and do not interfere in the affairs of others.

You might want to do a little research before you apply our American sensibilities all over the world.

And let me say this....I do not, nor have I ever listened to D&C. I am merely taking the statements at face value. You are offended. That's fine and dandy. Doesn't mean they shouldn't have the right to say what was said. The truth is often times offensive. Including the ugliness of Americans' stereotypical viewpoints.

The mirror often shows an ugly face. But it's still real.

And again...until the masses are turned off by anything said, they will continue to be popular. And it won't go away.

To which I suggest to you once again...perhaps you find another show to listen to.

 

[blamethemayo]

ugh. i dont know about you fellows, but i would have much preferred to hear callahan for 30 minutes this morning following the game than meter.

is there a more obnoxious person than meter? okay maybe greg dickerson.

 

[ArtSpooner]

ugh. i dont know about you fellows, but i would have much preferred to hear callahan for 30 minutes this morning following the game than meter.

is there a more obnoxious person than meter? okay maybe greg dickerson.

I think that Meter stands alone in the obnoxious ratings. His closest competitor would be Craig Mustard.

 

[riverboatman]

Neanderpaul, if you have never witnessed the stylings of the Dennis and Callahan show, a) why would you involve yourself in this debate, and before you answer question 'a,' b) how can you make a judgment on the comment in question having not heard it. You could not have any sense of the tone in which it was said. Talk about a rush to judgment. I did hear it and that's I why I commented on it. It was racist. It was childish. It was dismissive.

That all said......at the risk of sounding like Dennis and/or Callahan, I am not wrong. My issue here has nothing to do with the behavioral or psychologocal tendencies of the Japanese culture. Nothing. With all due respect (sincerely) either you are missing the point or I am weak in representing mine.

So, Ill give another shot. Callahan's only real point is that the Japanese all look alike. I don't know of a single culture, race, religion, or country where its members are not insulted by that comment. This is not about polical correctness, Neanderpaul. This has nothing to do with the ugly truth found in one's symbolic mirror. This has to do with single mindedness, insensetivity, rudeness, a lack of respect, and chauvinism.

While the Japanese may all look alike to you and Gerry Callahan, I assure you they don't to each other.

 

[Neanderpaul]

My good friend Craig Takeuchi begs to differ.

I take him at his word...being Japanese and all.

This isn't about whether all Japanese people look alike. It's about whether Daisuke (giving the guy a silly, cutesy Americanized nickname is no less offensive than what you're complaining about.) Matsuzaka blends in in Tokyo easier than non-Asian. That's what was said correct? That he would be tougher to find? Or, to pick out?

Why is this racist? It's true. Put 100 Japanese men in a room and within those Japanese men, put one Dominican. Who stands out the most as being SO much different looking?

What's the big deal? You don't like D&C. That's obvious. You have cited several points of contention. I get it.
Again...don't listen. Why would you put yourself through the misery of hanging on every word of a radio show you obviously loathe? It's really simple.

And try not to speak for every race, and culture. It's pompous, and arrogant. Standing atop your mountain, you're attempting to present yourself as the arbiter of good taste. Yes..D&C might be all of the things you contend that they are. So what? Does it really ruin your world? Can you not function in society based upon the offensive and horrid things you feel about what was said?

Perhaps you might want to focus those "do-gooder" efforts where they belong. On issues that affect real life.

It's a radio show...entertainment for those who choose to listen. Those whom are not entertained by the content of the show...should'nt listen. It's freedom of choice. Nobody forces the show upon you. Take responsibility for your own decisions. Stop trying to force your morality down everyone els's throat. People hate being told what to think.

If everyone agreed with you...would you let it go? Or, will you continue to pile on?

Your point is made. You think they're racist, and childish, and a whole host of other unpleasantries. They're also very successful.

Get used to it....or don't listen. Those are your only choices. Make one.

 

[riverboatman]

Your good friend, who?????? Well, forget that for now....

No No No, you are thoroughly mistaken. Callahan's statement was CLEARLY that all Japanese people look alike. Just because David Ortiz would be easier to identify while in the misdt of a Japanese gathering, does not make Callahan's statement is correct, politically or otherwise? I still maintain that it was racist, childish, and dismissive. You are persistent to use the likes of David Ortiz to demonstrate your point regarding a person of a different race sticking out in a crowd. Would you hold to the same model if Teddy Bruschi was in the midst of an all black crowd? Would you say he would sticks out because all blacks look alike? The more accurate, not politcally correct, but more accurate statement would be...Bruschi doesn't have any of the physical characteristics that would make one think he is African American.....That is notably different than 'black people (or any group, race, religion, etc) just look alike.' As I said in the previous post. Japanese may all look alike to you and Gerry Callahan, and maybe even your buddy Craig, but Asians don't look alike to other Asians.

If Craig says he's ok being told that all Japanese, and let's throw Chinese and Korean in the mix, look alike, does he speak for all those of the heritage(s)? That's more than a billion people. Is he speaking for the whole billion? Wow, that would by mighty impressive. I'm confident that the overwhelming majority of Asians would sharply disagree.


My opinion of the Dennis & Callahan Show is also not germain to this specific argument, yet you keep trying to make it so. This is a blog. Blogs are for, well, let's see, ummm, oh yeah, opinions. It gives no-names, like you and me the opportunity to speak publically on things that we otherwise would not have the opportunity to do. Oh wait, unless we had a radio show, a newpaper column, or any other media forum. And I don't, so blogging is my outlet for expressing opinions, particularly about the media, you know, on a website devoted to blogging, um well, about the media, particulaly the radio end of it...um, you know, which goes by the URL RADIO-INFO.COM. It all seems logical to me.

The fact that D&C are successful does not provide a perch for the on-air talent to make any point they wish, that is beyond scrutiny or examination, at the least. They are not operating with a blank check. We all have boundries in our respective positions. They crossed one of theirs that morning. My original intention was to point out that they got away with one. I would not delude myself into thinking my blogged opinion has the juice to get them penalized. I'm not looking for any victories. I made an observation on the appropriate website to do so. You are correct, I don't like either personality on that show, but I do enjoy the sports format. I am not a devout listener, in fact, I listen more to the Lew and Mike Show on 1510 (WWZN). They are caustic at times, as well, but they seem more open minded and alot funnier. But that's another blog entry for another day.

As for getting used to the success of D&C, we already are, oh wait, except maybe you, neanderpaul, you have yet to listen.

 

[Neanderpaul]

No No No, you are thoroughly mistaken. Callahan's statement was CLEARLY that all Japanese people look alike.

And although racist in origin, to the average Bostonian, that statement's probably accurate. As a matter of fact, I'd wager that most Americans can't tell Japanese from Chinese, or Korean, or Hmong. To most of us, as ignorant as it is, Asians look alike. It's both a product of ignorance, and the post WWII/Korean/Vietnam mentality. When you look at our country's history, we have warred with Asian cultures throughout. We continue to "blame" Japan for making superior products. We denounce Japanese cars, and motorcycles. We continue to look at China as an enemy. The "Vietnamese are taking over Quincy." Everyone's heard the derision. Doesn't make it right, but it does make it commonplace, and less likely to be scrutinized.

I still maintain that it was racist, childish, and dismissive.

Point made. So what? What would you like them to do? Issue a retraction? Do you really think there'd be any sincerity whatsoever in that?

You are persistent to use the likes of David Ortiz to demonstrate your point regarding a person of a different race sticking out in a crowd. Would you hold to the same model if Teddy Bruschi was in the midst of an all black crowd? Would you say he would sticks out because all blacks look alike?

That's not what was said though. What was said was that Daisuke Matsuzaka would blend in in Tokyo more easily than other Red Sox players. You have decided to apply your own subjective interpretation of those statements. And, as valid as they may be, they do not invalidate what was said. Nor do they contradict the average Bostonian's opinion.

The more accurate, not politcally correct, but more accurate statement would be...Bruschi doesn't have any of the physical characteristics that would make one think he is African American.....That is notably different than 'black people (or any group, race, religion, etc) just look alike.' As I said in the previous post. Japanese may all look alike to you and Gerry Callahan, and maybe even your buddy Craig, but Asians don't look alike to other Asians.

But they weren't talking about "other Asians." They were talking to their audience in Boston. Most of whom have no idea how to distinguish between persons of varying Asian origins. And, whether you want to accept it, or not, Asian people share extremely similar physical traits. Just like Greeks & Turks. Iraqi and Syrian. Hell...Americans can't even distinguish between Sikh and Hindu. We are ignorant. Right, or wrong...we are. Callahan merely voiced what most Bostonians think when looking at a group of Japanese. It may be racist in your view, but it's not inaccurate by any means.

If Craig says he's ok being told that all Japanese, and let's throw Chinese and Korean in the mix, look alike, does he speak for all those of the heritage(s)?

Craig's not being told. Craig tells me. Craig is Japanese. He, and many of his Japanese friends think we're idiots for even discussing this stuff. Shows how primative our culture is that we even care about these things. And they joke about how they all look alike. They find it amusing. The overwhelming majority of Asians think Americans are lazy and racist. And they're right.

My opinion of the Dennis & Callahan Show is also not germain to this specific argument, yet you keep trying to make it so. This is a blog. Blogs are for, well, let's see, ummm, oh yeah, opinions. It gives no-names, like you and me the opportunity to speak publically on things that we otherwise would not have the opportunity to do. Oh wait, unless we had a radio show, a newpaper column, or any other media forum. And I don't, so blogging is my outlet for expressing opinions, particularly about the media, you know, on a website devoted to blogging, um well, about the media, particulaly the radio end of it...um, you know, which goes by the URL RADIO-INFO.COM. It all seems logical to me.

Yours is a very common point. Blogs have become less about observations, and more about a platform for those who crave attention. Those who believe their position is unique, or special. Those who crave validation for their viewpoint because they don't have a media forum from which to espouse their thoughts. With that said...It's time for me to go do my radio show.

Enjoy your weekend....If you can.

 

[riverboatman]

I love your persistence. Never give up, never give in. You would have been a great POW.....name, rank, and serial number. Most impressive.

Even though I'm holding a full house, Aces over 10s, I'm just gonna fold and cash in the rest of my chips.

Except, I'm gonna throw out one more point, just to test a theory. The Celtics are really good this year.

 

[Neanderpaul]

I love your persistence. Never give up, never give in. You would have been a great POW.....name, rank, and serial number. Most impressive.

Even though I'm holding a full house, Aces over 10s, I'm just gonna fold and cash in the rest of my chips.

Except, I'm gonna throw out one more point, just to test a theory. The Celtics are really good this year.

...just to take it full circle (from Revenge of The Nerds)

"I sink I haf a frush"

"What the f*** is a frush?"

Royal Flush rules all!

And the Celtics do look good this year...

I'm a Bruins fan

 

[riverboatman]

Well just for the Radio-Info.com record, I didn't fold becasue you had a better hand. I dropped my cards because your filibuster could kill any bill on the floor.

But once again, I'm impressed.

Hats off to the energy and stubborness of one NEANDERPAUL