Just read that Denver SJ is now sports! Who's next? Philly? Will Saga bail on the two BA stations they have now that they have an excuse? You have to first figure out who's probably safe and go from there.
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Bill Harmonic said:
I hate that. CD 104.3 was one of my favorite smooth jazz stations to listen to online. :'(
oh wait, I just found that they're put the smooth jazz on an HD channel and they're still streaming online. Well...at least all is not lost. I wonder how long it'll be before they "pull the plug" on all of that, too. :-\
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It's a complete meltdown right before our eyes, and there's nothing to stop it. When BA has something to do with it, no matter what you do.....your days are numbered. Companies are trying to salvage what reputation they have left. Lincoln financial is the latest.....who's next?? my guess is Greater Media will dump smooth jazz in Philly before the spring book. It's sad but they have no one to blame but themselves and of course those PD's who destroyed radio from the outside looking in. They call themselves......consultants. Go figure.
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I fully expected Philadelphia before Denver. I'm surprised the one in Dayton is still on. Maybe Columbus next? That's kind of a weird radio market with all those rockers and country stations. Not sure what new formats would work there. But Saga does need a boost someway somehow.
i think hats off need to go to WQJZ, a tiny little jones station on the eastern shore of maryland that has been doing the format for about 10 years. it never hardly breaks any decent numbers, but the owners are sure patient with it. i guess they figure that it's not losing money, so why change.
another little smooth jazz station never talked about here. WSJW in harrisburg, PA. been on the air 4 years and folks on the central PA board claim the owners are more than happy with the results.
another little smooth jazz station, WEZS, Laconia, New Hampshire. An ex-beautiful music station that morphed into smooth jazz on AM!!
another little AM smooth jazz station, jones affiliate WCIN in cincinatti, ohio.
so as all these big smooth jazz stations bite the dust, let's give hats off to these tiny stations that seem to be keeping the format alive in their own little way.
another little smooth jazz station never talked about here. WSJW in harrisburg, PA. been on the air 4 years and folks on the central PA board claim the owners are more than happy with the results.
another little smooth jazz station, WEZS, Laconia, New Hampshire. An ex-beautiful music station that morphed into smooth jazz on AM!!
another little AM smooth jazz station, jones affiliate WCIN in cincinatti, ohio.
so as all these big smooth jazz stations bite the dust, let's give hats off to these tiny stations that seem to be keeping the format alive in their own little way.
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Interstate 78 said:
Is it a coincidence, or is JSJ the reason that 2 of the stations you mention are still hanging on?
Does anybody know how many affiliates JSJ has around the country?
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Does anybody know how many affiliates JSJ has around the country?
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thats a very good question and one that worries me a bit. i'm sure jones has to have a cut-off point that when their affiliates drop to a certain number, they pull the format, wouldn't you think? they've got to be getting close to that cut off point by now.
Does anybody know how many affiliates JSJ has around the country?
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thats a very good question and one that worries me a bit. i'm sure jones has to have a cut-off point that when their affiliates drop to a certain number, they pull the format, wouldn't you think? they've got to be getting close to that cut off point by now.
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Interstate 78 said:
You asked the very question I was afraid to ask...if JSJ decides to call it quits, especially because of BA, it will be a very sad day indeed!!
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You asked the very question I was afraid to ask...if JSJ decides to call it quits, especially because of BA, it will be a very sad day indeed!!
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i know. and let's not forget something else that's very sad with this sinking ship called smooth jazz. the artists. if i were people like brian culbertson, kirk whalum, walter beasley, gerald veasley, etc. i'd be pretty darn scared about what's going on. all of their outlets to get their music heard are folding, except for making people go and buy something extra like satellite or HD. so maybe a revolution will happen.
see, when beautiful music died, it was no big deal. most of those artists were canned studio artists. but maybe with respectable instrumental artists losing an outlet for their music, some sort of uprising will happen. not sure what that would be though. i fear the consultants have already put too many nails in the coffin by doing two things: 1) adding too much soft pop driving people away 2) making the artists record more "safe" music, which also, drove people away.
this is all just so sad.
You asked the very question I was afraid to ask...if JSJ decides to call it quits, especially because of BA, it will be a very sad day indeed!!
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i know. and let's not forget something else that's very sad with this sinking ship called smooth jazz. the artists. if i were people like brian culbertson, kirk whalum, walter beasley, gerald veasley, etc. i'd be pretty darn scared about what's going on. all of their outlets to get their music heard are folding, except for making people go and buy something extra like satellite or HD. so maybe a revolution will happen.
see, when beautiful music died, it was no big deal. most of those artists were canned studio artists. but maybe with respectable instrumental artists losing an outlet for their music, some sort of uprising will happen. not sure what that would be though. i fear the consultants have already put too many nails in the coffin by doing two things: 1) adding too much soft pop driving people away 2) making the artists record more "safe" music, which also, drove people away.
this is all just so sad.
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I realize it's also small market, but what I don't understand and what confuses me is how a station like WASJ-FM, Panama City, FL, flips from JSJ to ESPN sports radio, when their market clearly prefers SJ (as defined by the ratings). ???
WASJ-FM, Panama City, FL flipped, at the very latest, in late January (I don't know the exact date; heard the change, in person, on 1/24/08 when driving into Destin, FL).
Ironically, WASJ-FM registered a 3.0 for Fall' 07 (as reported on 2/1/08 - their best in a year), while the 2 sports outlets were both at 0.6...
http://tinylink.com/?usg3BLeB4z
I'm not a radio profesional/insider, just a big fan of SJ with a business background...can someone tell me how a business decision like this can be made? Is station management now regretting such a "hasty" decision, given the most recent ratings book? ???
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WASJ-FM, Panama City, FL flipped, at the very latest, in late January (I don't know the exact date; heard the change, in person, on 1/24/08 when driving into Destin, FL).
Ironically, WASJ-FM registered a 3.0 for Fall' 07 (as reported on 2/1/08 - their best in a year), while the 2 sports outlets were both at 0.6...
http://tinylink.com/?usg3BLeB4z
I'm not a radio profesional/insider, just a big fan of SJ with a business background...can someone tell me how a business decision like this can be made? Is station management now regretting such a "hasty" decision, given the most recent ratings book? ???
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BA hit up the Jones Affiliates first. Their goal was to get them all to flip. In Florida they went after Jacksonville big time and got them even though the company that owned that station swore they would never go with BA under any circumstances. They also nabbed Ft.Walton (WSBZ) but Gainesville is still with Jones, the other Jones affiliate was Panama City which flipped formats. Jones still seems to have a fair amount of smaller market affiliates. They were never in any majors, I think they said Jax was their biggest market. They sounded a lot better when Cheri Marquart was the MD. After she left they started playing a lot more EZ type instrumentals and pop vocals but even in that configuration they sound a lot better than SJN
can anyone provide a list or a link to a list of all of jones' smooth jazz affiliates?
Interstate 78 said:
From 1000000watts.com and my own rememberences:
Current:
1.) WAUN 92.7 - Kewaunee, WI (streaming)
2.) WQJZ 97.1 - Ocean Pines, MD (streaming)
3.) WJZT 97.9 - Tallahassee, FL (streaming)
4.) WXJZ 100.9 - Gainesville, FL (streaming)
5.) KUJJ 101.9 - Weston, OR (streaming)
6.) WKYL 102.1 - Lawrenceburg, KY (streaming)
7.) KKSJ 106.3 - Maurice, LA (not streaming but another one who sent me their logo - via email)
8.) KMGK Magik 107.1 - Glenwood Parks, MN (not streaming)
9.) WCIN AM 1480 - Cincinnati, OH (streaming)
Former:
1.) WASJ 105.1 is no longer Jones smooth jazz unfort. and they had a very neat looking logo. Very disappointed I never got to listen to that one.
2.) A station called Love 95.3 in South Padre Island, TX. I don't remember the calls.
3.) WCNH 98.7 The Conch in the Florida Keys. They sent me their logo via postal mail to me since they weren't online. It's now country.
4.) 98.7 in TN somewhere. Don't remember the calls or city of license.
5.) WBJZ 104.7 in Berlin, WI now CHR.
6.) WJSJ 105.3 used to be Jones Smooth Jazz but has switched over to BA.
The Padre Island station's call letters were KZSP "Love 95-3." They discontinued their stream in 2002, and sold the station a year later.
Another Jones affiliate was WFSJ Hicksville, IN (106.7), which served the South Bend, IN area. They also streamed.
I have been recording the streams of various Jones SJ affiliates since 2000. I have enjoyed their programming of the format.
Another Jones affiliate was WFSJ Hicksville, IN (106.7), which served the South Bend, IN area. They also streamed.
I have been recording the streams of various Jones SJ affiliates since 2000. I have enjoyed their programming of the format.
Current:
In Lansing, MI, WJZL 92.9 FM uses Jones Smooth Jazz. It doesn't look like they stream, judging from their website, though I think they did when the format first launched.
Also, WCXT 98.3 FM in Hartford (Benton Harbor/St. Joseph) runs the Jones format at night and all day Sunday. Their daytime format is Hot AC.
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Spiritof67, you're right about WFJZ, except that they tried to be a Fort Wayne market station, not South Bend (which had its own Jones SJ station for a short time). The station had okay ratings being that it has a poor signal in Fort Wayne proper, but seemingly the owners got tired of trying to be a Fort Wayne rimshot and decided to re-focus on the Auburn/Garrett (north of Fort Wayne) area, changing the format to Hot AC in the process. They're now WFGA "Froggy."
WJZQ 92.9 The Breeze Cadillac, MI (Traverse City) started in 2001 as a Jones SJ station. I think it was July '01 or so when country WKJF-FM became WJZQ, and the new format seemed to be an out-of-the-box success, as 92.9 went from being a non-factor to beating both of the mainstream AC stations in the market in its first ratings book. The station also moved its tower farther north to get better coverage of Traverse City, which allowed it to be heard almost to the Mackinac Bridge. Then I guess the novelty wore off, because the ratings fell back into the toilet, and management converted the station to Soft AC with local voicetracking, which it remains today.
There was also a brief period when WUBU 106.3 in South Bend did Jones SJ. The station had been Urban AC before the change, and has since gone back to Urban AC following an outcry from listeners who missed the previous format.
In Lansing, MI, WJZL 92.9 FM uses Jones Smooth Jazz. It doesn't look like they stream, judging from their website, though I think they did when the format first launched.
Also, WCXT 98.3 FM in Hartford (Benton Harbor/St. Joseph) runs the Jones format at night and all day Sunday. Their daytime format is Hot AC.
Former:
Spiritof67, you're right about WFJZ, except that they tried to be a Fort Wayne market station, not South Bend (which had its own Jones SJ station for a short time). The station had okay ratings being that it has a poor signal in Fort Wayne proper, but seemingly the owners got tired of trying to be a Fort Wayne rimshot and decided to re-focus on the Auburn/Garrett (north of Fort Wayne) area, changing the format to Hot AC in the process. They're now WFGA "Froggy."
WJZQ 92.9 The Breeze Cadillac, MI (Traverse City) started in 2001 as a Jones SJ station. I think it was July '01 or so when country WKJF-FM became WJZQ, and the new format seemed to be an out-of-the-box success, as 92.9 went from being a non-factor to beating both of the mainstream AC stations in the market in its first ratings book. The station also moved its tower farther north to get better coverage of Traverse City, which allowed it to be heard almost to the Mackinac Bridge. Then I guess the novelty wore off, because the ratings fell back into the toilet, and management converted the station to Soft AC with local voicetracking, which it remains today.
There was also a brief period when WUBU 106.3 in South Bend did Jones SJ. The station had been Urban AC before the change, and has since gone back to Urban AC following an outcry from listeners who missed the previous format.
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